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Posted: 10/7/2007 2:56:25 PM EDT
This review is available with maps in table form here: Carry Review
Ranking of States from the perspective of maximum Concealed Carry Permit Recognition (Updated as of 10-7-07) (Data from http://handgunlaw.us) Ranking system: Number of States that recognize your permit at all = primary consideration Number of States that recognize your non-resident permit (if one is issued): secondary consideration (tie breaker) One half additional point awarded to States that do not require a permit to carry concealed weapons The info is laid out as follows: Name Ranking (1=most recognition; 2=next most; etc.) Number of States that recognize their resident permits Number of States that recognize their non-resident permits Gold Star 30+ States Michigan 1 34 29 Tennessee 2 34 27 Alaska 2.5 (No permit required in AK) 33 NA Missouri 3 33 NA North Carolina 4 32 NA Oklahoma 4 32 NA Utah 5 31 28 Florida 5 31 26 Louisiana 6 31 NA Kentucky 6 31 NA Texas 7 30 25 Silver Star 20+ States Colorado 8 28 NA Arizona 9 27 22 Wyoming 10 27 NA Arkansas 10 27 NA Montana 11 25 NA South Dakota 11 25 NA Ohio 11 25 NA Idaho 12 24 21 North Dakota 13 24 20 Pennsylvania 14 24 19 Mississippi 15 24 NA Indiana 16 23 19 Alabama 17 23 NA Georgia 17 23 NA South Carolina 18 22 20 Virginia 19 22 19 New Hampshire 19 22 19 Kansas 20 22 NA New Mexico 21 21 NA Delaware 22 20 NA West Virginia 22 20 NA Bronze Star 10+ States Washington 23 19 18 Minnesota 24 16 14 Nevada 25 16 (This should improve shortly, now that they extended recognition to several more States recently) 14 Nebraska 26 16 NA New Jersey 27 15 13 Iowa 28 14 13 New York 28 14 13 Connecticut 28 14 13 Maryland 28 14 13 Massachusetts 28 14 13 Hawaii 29 14 NA California 29 14 NA Oregon 30 13 12 Rhode Island 30 13 12 Maine 31 12 11 Somewhat Honorable Mention <10 States Washington, DC 32 8 NA Vermont 32.5 NA (But no permit required in VT, so we give them an honorary .5 point, and applaud them for that) NA States that just flat FAIL  Wisconsin 0 NA NA Illinois 0 NA NA |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 3:07:52 PM EDT
[#1]
Your VA map is wrong. WV does honor the VA permit. Looks like CO does not honor the VA permit.
Also, the VA permit is good in: AR, TX, NM per the VCDL |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 3:14:23 PM EDT
[#2]
If you could, would you send the links/pertinent info to the webmasters of handgunlaw [admins-at-handgunlaw.us] so that they can update their maps? That is how they stay current, and (since packing.org is down) they are the biggest/best source of info that I know of. |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 3:15:17 PM EDT
[#3]
And MD is a might issue if you're LEO, or can show just cause. For the regular Joe, fergettaboutit. Ain't gonna happen. Sure, you can carry other places, but you have to get it first.
WV has come a long way this year. LONG way! |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 3:28:05 PM EDT
[#4]
Done. |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 3:31:50 PM EDT
[#5]
We gotta catch up
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Posted: 10/7/2007 3:32:35 PM EDT
[#6]
You also need to add a category
'Recognizes other state's permits' |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:03:54 AM EDT
[#7]
Too much work, I already had to shirk more important duties to accomplish this. Good idea, though! |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:06:24 AM EDT
[#8]
It's pretty surprising that MI is first in any type of nationwide pro-gun thing.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:07:08 AM EDT
[#9]
We just had a bill signed that I believe gives us full reciprocity with 26 states.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:09:08 AM EDT
[#10]
TN's in good shape.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:12:07 AM EDT
[#11]
Things may suck here job wise but the one thing our Canadian Governess does well is ineptitude, and she has allowed all kinds of things to happen on her watch, thank God. CCW, Castle doctrine, Class III... |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:14:08 AM EDT
[#12]
It is strange, because Michigan is "Johnny Come Lately" to this game. But good on Michigan for catching up and taking the lead (in this statistic), that is. I'm sure other stats/factors would not view Michigan as highly. 1. # of overall permits. 2. Permits per capita. 3. Permit issuance times and delays. Not to mention Michigan's problem with Class III items (friggin AG). |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:16:18 AM EDT
[#13]
Don't hate, yo...  BTW the AG is the guy that's pro-CIII... Cox is the best thing to happen to our 2A rights in a long time... |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:21:45 AM EDT
[#14]
Hey, I'm a Michigan boy and began working for a CCW when I returned from active duty in 1992. They immediately made me register my pistols and I needed a pre-signed card to buy any more.  I moved to Indiana for work in 1994 (the rest of MI will experience that, shortly) and now live in a state that FAR outshines Michigan's statistical dominance in this one area. I've had a CCW since 1994 and we get ALL the good toys. Come visit, Playa. And for AG, I'm thinking all the way back to that douchebag Frank Kelly and his "decrees". |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:25:36 AM EDT
[#15]
How about garrison commanders that say there soldiers can't ccw in a state where everyone and there mom can carry...and does. God I love the army. I can carry a gun 24/7 now but in 37 days I can't carry one at all. But I can drink me some beer so that almost works out seeing I wouldn't be carrying while drinking anyway
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:42:34 AM EDT
[#16]
Have you written your senator and representative about that? |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:29:39 AM EDT
[#17]
well yessir I have as well as someone from the NRA whom said it was an issue they had heard alot about as well as on other posts. I also talked to my home town reps from Iowa to which I had a minor connection. No help there thus far. Kinda been busy the last few months though.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:31:21 AM EDT
[#18]
Virginia gets hung up because our permit is a "Permit To Carry A Concealed Handgun" and other states call theirs a permit to carry a concealed "weapon".
That's stopped or slowed reciprocity agreements. |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:37:22 AM EDT
[#19]
If we could get rid of Doyle we'd have CCW.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:37:40 AM EDT
[#20]
Wow! I'm surprised NC beat TX and FL.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:52:08 AM EDT
[#21]
I was pleasantly surprised to see that OK was 4th, that's good stuff....now if only I could find a place to go shoot that isn't infested with crazy people muzzle sweeping everyone
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:55:38 AM EDT
[#22]
what the hell is wrong w/ SC? Their reciprocity w/ other states sucks!
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:59:38 AM EDT
[#23]
As far as New
WHAT A BUNCH OF HORSE SHIT Ordinary law abiding And NJ doesn't recognize any other state's permits. Not a single fucking one. So who carries in Jersey? Jersey cops and the bad guys. |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:01:30 AM EDT
[#24]
Yeah, I live in Oklahoma but my parents live in SC
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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:29:35 AM EDT
[#25]
I have to agree, NJ Failed
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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:32:53 AM EDT
[#26]
Another example of statistics being misused. Just because it's technically feasible, doesn't mean that it's a practical fact. |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 12:45:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2007 12:52:09 PM EDT
[#28]
We recognize everyone's permits.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 8:47:45 PM EDT
[#29]
Yeah, but no one recognizes yours.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:03:37 PM EDT
[#30]
Alaska does.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:05:52 PM EDT
[#31]
LOL! You got me there.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:19:25 PM EDT
[#32]
Machine guns yes, supressors, SBRs and SBS no. Right? |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:23:23 PM EDT
[#33]
What and leave us alone? What would be the fun in that? |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:25:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Alabama isn't a shall issue state?
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Posted: 10/8/2007 9:39:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2007 3:20:22 AM EDT
[#36]
You know, I'd have to check... I know machine guns are GTG, and I *thought* SBRs/SBSs were too, and the only sticking point was suppressors but I could swear I even saw those being discussed in the hometown forum... |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 3:32:35 AM EDT
[#37]
Holy shit! There is finally SOMETHING MI that rates better than other states at.
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Posted: 10/9/2007 3:36:55 AM EDT
[#38]
No SBRs yet. (That I know of). Good on the AG for the machine guns, but I am more interested in SBRs and suppressors.
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Posted: 10/9/2007 3:42:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2007 4:17:26 AM EDT
[#40]
What is ironic is that when Michigan passed their NRA sponsored shall issue CCW law back in 2000 GOA was opposed to it and it said it was the worst law ever. What is also really interesting is that Missouri just passed their NRA sponsored CCW a couple years ago and they are all the way up to 4th on the list. A couple years prior to that law passing the NRA was dragged through the coals for "selling out the CCW vote". In both cases the law was sponsored/written by the NRA, in both cases the NRA was bashed repeatedly, but now we see the results of the NRA CCW laws, they are at the top of the list as far as reciprocity. Maybe the NRA knows what they are doing. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 4:45:15 AM EDT
[#41]
alabama ranks low becuase we have ZERO training requirements and the BG check is actually optional and up to the issuing sherrif. the result is many states don't like our system.
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