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Posted: 10/19/2001 10:08:14 AM EDT
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What, the stealth mag conversion? [whacko]
You realize that picture had to be posed... |
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Posted: 10/19/2001 10:10:28 AM EDT
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There is a suspicious looking man in the background.
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Posted: 10/19/2001 10:13:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: There is a suspicious looking man in the background. You mean the dark haired middle-eastern fellow that is about to pull a knife out of his chin-scabbard? |
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Posted: 10/19/2001 10:14:55 AM EDT
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This isn't funny at all. When I go to Penn Station in NYC I see a bunch of Guardsmen on "patrol" but not one of them is armed. I stopped and talked to one of them and asked why that is so...they were told (and inspected) they couldn't have M16's, sidearms, and even knives! WTF??? That's the equivalent of putting on my police uniform but taking away my body armor and 9mm's! Well at least they have radios so they can scream for help should anything go wrong. I say give 'em all the firepower possible, we are at war last I checked[heavy][50]
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Posted: 10/19/2001 10:15:22 AM EDT
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When I was in the Guard and we were sent to Miami and Homestead for Hurricane Andrew, we were doign street patrols for looters and such as Power Line men were getting killed and robbed by gang bangers. We had loaded mags but were not allowed to have them in the weapon because they didnt want us to seem too intimidating, or so we were told. After the first time a car load of gang bangers ran my checkpoint and tried to run me over, I locked and loaded and stayed that way until we left. I told my LT that if they wanted that mag out of my rifle, then fine, but I was going home then. Its all PR. They want to give the public the warm and fuzzy feeling of extra security without looking too aggressive. Personally its BS.
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Posted: 10/19/2001 10:22:51 AM EDT
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Check out what David Hackworth had to say about this...
LET'S LOCK AND LOAD NOW [url]http://www.hackworth.com/15oct01.html[/url] |
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Posted: 10/19/2001 10:24:19 AM EDT
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They want to give the public the warm and fuzzy feeling of extra security without looking too aggressive. Personally its BS. It is disgusting that our citizen/soldiers are placed in this position. We either trust our military and Nat'l guard, or we are in deep $hit as a Democratic Republic. [:(] My take on it: If you can't trust your troops, train 'em till you can - or cashier them out of the service. If the problem is with the military/civilian leadership - they should be [b]forced [/b] to resign. |
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Posted: 10/19/2001 10:30:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: You mean the dark haired middle-eastern fellow that is about to pull a knife out of his chin-scabbard? Now that was fucking funny! |
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Posted: 10/19/2001 10:35:22 AM EDT
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I thought they had outlawed high capacity magazines............. and this is the new single shot version - "do it for the children"
A kinder gentler nation! |
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Posted: 10/19/2001 10:37:46 AM EDT
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From the caption:
Passengers said they appreciated the added security (sigh) |
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Posted: 10/19/2001 10:45:55 AM EDT
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You know, all this unloaded weapons crap is such B.S. They say they don't want to appear intimidating, but I'll bet 9 out of 10 sheeple don't even know there isn't a magazine in the gun.
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Posted: 10/19/2001 11:00:28 AM EDT
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Not to sound like a dumbass, but they don't have forward-assists on those either?
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Posted: 10/19/2001 11:18:43 AM EDT
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Quoted: Not to sound like a dumbass, but they don't have forward-assists on those either? No, you don't sound like a dumbass. There are many Guard units out there that have very old weapons in their armories just like the M-16 that Soldier is "armed" with. |
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Posted: 10/19/2001 11:38:21 AM EDT
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Loaded mags in the webbing not the rifle was SOP for Canadian Forces on peacekeeping duty in Cyprus.
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Posted: 10/19/2001 12:08:21 PM EDT
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Loaded for bear. It is a good thing he has the pointed finger.
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Posted: 10/19/2001 12:32:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: Loaded for bear. It is a good thing he has the pointed finger. HEY!!! I resemble that remark! [:)] |
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Posted: 10/19/2001 2:52:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: Not to sound like a dumbass, but they don't have forward-assists on those either? The USAF has alot of M16's without the forward assist. |
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Posted: 10/19/2001 2:56:55 PM EDT
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Yeah, it should be "US Strikes Back" not US STRIKES Bacl
ARSWami |
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Posted: 10/19/2001 3:39:57 PM EDT
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Hi all.
I'm pretty sure the guy is Air Force not Army. The lower receiver is an early one. Note the "unfenced" mag release button. The Air Force has tons of these pre-A1's still in inventory. Regards, Sharps |
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Posted: 10/19/2001 3:45:14 PM EDT
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I know when I deployed to Haiti, I found it amazing that all the Army troops were carrying unloaded pistols and rifles. I later learned that my Air Force Security Forces are one of a very few in the U.S. military that carry loaded weapons everyday.
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Posted: 10/19/2001 3:50:33 PM EDT
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FYI, I am now a Combat arms troop in the Air Force, so I work on M-16's everyday and I can tell you there are very few M-16's left now. We have converted almost all to M-16A2 now. Original 16's are few and far between. All that is left of the original rifle is the lower, almost all other parts are replaced w/ A2, to include complete upper and burst fire.
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