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Posted: 10/3/2001 5:29:59 AM EDT

I was just listening to the local radio show that I always listen to, and one of the guys said this:

"It really scares me when the national guard have to train to use a handgun. Shouldn't they already know how to do that?"

Uhh.. I really don't know what to say to that, but what a moron! I will say that it made me laugh more than it pissed me off..

Ian

Posted: 10/3/2001 6:21:34 AM EDT

[#1]

I would have to agree with the radio host...

Responsible weapons handling should begin early on. If we're all supposed to be part of a "Well Regulated Militia", then they should have already known how to properly use a handgun!

Posted: 10/3/2001 6:27:18 AM EDT

[#2]

They should be proficient in the use of handguns and rifles well before they're old enough to join. He's absolutely right. Even though I doubt he meant it the same way I do. [:)]

Posted: 10/3/2001 6:28:23 AM EDT

[#3]

one would hope the NG already knows how to use handguns. but then, i'm pretty familiar with mine, and i'm planning to go train some more this weekend.

Posted: 10/3/2001 6:33:25 AM EDT

[#4]

not siding with the guards (they do have their share of morons), but being proficient with a weapon (or anything actually) does not preclude you from training with it.

train, train, train til you can do it in your sleep. a sharp knife will cut, but a sharper knife will cut even deeper and smoother.

Posted: 10/3/2001 6:40:06 AM EDT

[#5]

America needs a kiddy National Gaurd. I'm not kidding. it would be mostly for training. They would learn how to shoot proficiently, handle weapons, read maps, use a compass, march, etc. Oh wait a minute don't they teach this in the Boy Scouts anymore ? Then, if there is a disaster the kiddy National Gaurd could help in the recovery efforts like my church group did when I was 10. Every child should be taught to be the militia, but should also learn the values necessary to prevent America from rotting into the ground and turning into a Police state.

Posted: 10/3/2001 7:00:22 AM EDT

[#6]

I attended a National Guard firepower demo at a County run range some years back... these guardsmen (feel free to substitute the word monkeys) were pulling 223 rounds off of stripper clips and inserting them into the M16 mags one at a time... a buddy and I showed them how the stripper clips were meant to be used. They were amazed at how much quicker it was...

Posted: 10/3/2001 7:36:07 AM EDT

[#7]

The kiddie national guard is the Boy Scouts. Sir Lord Baden Powell started them in England when he saw the sorry state of recruits that their Army was getting. The scouts teach lots of the basic woods knowledge that a good national guard member should know - my first introduction to firearms was with the scouts as we were city folk.

At least the scouts doesn't have a don't ask, don't tell policy and prohibits co-ed units.

Posted: 10/3/2001 8:05:09 AM EDT

[#8]

I'm a little confused .. what's the part that made you laugh and pissed off?

When I was in, most infantrymen never touched a handgun, much less trained with one. Handguns were primarily issued to officers and units like MPs and others that had a need.

I have no doubt that all the privates and sergeants in my platoon could have figure out how to use a handgun in very short order, but technically they had never been "trained" how to use one. Maybe that's all the reference was to.

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