Stole this from another board:

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Palo Alto Ca.

While I was driving south on 101 I passed by the Ikea store which has a big electronic sign.

There was one ad that said: "$1000 REWARD For info on people with guns.

The sign had a silhouette of an AR and the logo for a police dept.
The sign advised people to report gun owners at the following number 408-947-7867. Ikea appears to own the sign but they use a company called Smart Sign Media to take care of the ads that run. (800-549-7300)

I called Smart Sign Media and was told by "Cheryl" that the ad was
placed by the East Palo Alto Police. They were offering up to $1000.00 reward. I called the 408-947-7867 number and was routed to a lady in police admin at <Removed. This is an official police report line, not a complaint line>. I could not get the lady's name, but she told me that the program was designed to get the public to report young men who were seen with guns in the street.

When I asked her what happened with these reports she said that these were only considered "incidents" until an officer checked them out.
When I asked her what she meant by checking them out, she said they would dispatch an officer to the address and see if the person had the "proper paperwork" for the weapon. If not, they would confiscate the gun and hold it pending further investigation. At this point, a true report would be filed.

When I asked her to define "proper paperwork", the process for getting a gun back, etc., she got very evasive and said I had to talk to a sergeant. I was then left on terminal hold. I called back twice with
the same result.

I need the following from all of you:

<Removed.  We do not fire mission police department report lines>

B. Get people to start calling Ikea in East Palo Alto and find out why
they are allowing this to go on.

C. Get this information out to as many other 2A groups as possible.

You can get a PDF of the notice that includes a picture of the sign
here: http://www.gs2ac.com/flyers/PAPolice...Collection.pdf and on our web site.

Many thanks,
Mark Towber
President
Golden State 2nd Amendment Council"


Gave the number on the sign a call. It's a 911 dispatch number and they just told me to call 408-947-7867. That second number rang busy.

So, the Palo Alto police are not only infringing on your 2nd and 4th ammendments (right to bear arms and protection against illegal searches and seizures), but they are also encouraging people to call a 911 center frivolously.



EDIT - O.K., somebody just IMd the correct (non 911) number to me, so I editted out the one that overloads their 911 system. (Even though it's their own fault for using that one on the sign). The quote is obviously no longer an actual quote, but the essence is still there.

1984

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Quoted: So, the Palo Alto police are not only infringing on your 2nd and 4th ammendments (right to bear arms and protection against illegal searches and seizures), but they are also encouraging people to call a 911 center frivolously.

Asking citizens to report potential illegal activity is nothing new, nor in and of itself illegal.

Quoted: Asking citizens to report potential illegal activity is nothing new, nor in and of itself illegal.

If it said, "Report people with illegal guns", I would have *slightly* less of a problem with it.  But they are harassing and threatening any and all gun owners.  As a gun owner, how would you feel if you saw that sign in your town?  I'd feel pretty damn persecuted.

This self loathing Ca resident is truely shocked.
How Katrina like

Here we go...

I have lots of guns.  Call them up and tell them.  You'll be providing "information on someone with guns", and will be eligible for the $1000 (the sign doesn't say "for the successful prosecution of someone for a gun-related crime).  I'm not even in their jurisidction, so even if any of my guns were "illegal", they couldn't do anything.

Then send me my half of the reward.

Tag.

Doesn't say illegal guns in the advertisement.  If the police put up a sign like this for illegal aliens it would be considered racist and there would be International pressure to stop the campaign.

Double standard.  Glad I don't live there.

I just had a thought.  We should all call the number and tell them about ourselves.  Then we should all demand the money.  "Hey, I gave you info on someone with guns!  Now gimme my money!!"

Jnojr beat me to it.  

Or as an alternative, we should all flood their phone line with tips on thousands and thousands of people.  Their entire system would collapse, and they would probably be sued by more than a few people.

I did not see the words "illegal activity" anywhere
It appears they are asking about legal guns as well.

Quoted: Quoted: So, the Palo Alto police are not only infringing on your 2nd and 4th ammendments (right to bear arms and protection against illegal searches and seizures), but they are also encouraging people to call a 911 center frivolously. Asking citizens to report potential illegal activity is nothing new, nor in and of itself illegal.

Still not a fan of that Constitution thing I see.

TXL

Quoted: If it said, "Report people with illegal guns", I would have *slightly* less of a problem with it.  But they are harassing and threatening any and all gun owners.  As a gun owner, how would you feel if you saw that sign in your town?  I'd feel pretty damn persecuted.

Its their way of trying to deal with gun-involved violence. Give them a call and tell them you object to the wording of their sign and why. My point remains that it is not illegal in and of itself, nor any different than any other campaign to enlist citizen assistance in dealing with specific types of incidents. If you think we don't already get calls to check out people with guns, you'd be wrong.

FISHING ................................................

Quoted: 1984 www.gs2ac.com/images/S1-IKEA_Sign_1K_Gun_Reward.JPG

I have a phone and a gun, do I get money?

It says a phone + gun = money!

Call in and report Diane Feinstien.

Quoted: Asking citizens to report potential illegal activity is nothing new, nor in and of itself illegal.

Ah, nevermind....

Tell em to hire someone who can word public signs better.

Quoted: FISHING ................................................

for those evil people who did not register their "assault" weapons.

This needs a tag...

Golden State 2nd Amendment Council

I wonder how many members this organization has.

Let's face fact guys, the government decides what is legal or illegal, and as well all know the state and local governments in California decided a long time ago that guns are illegal. They view guns as a menace and gun owners as a threat. Simple as that.

Quoted: Quoted: If it said, "Report people with illegal guns", I would have *slightly* less of a problem with it.  But they are harassing and threatening any and all gun owners.  As a gun owner, how would you feel if you saw that sign in your town?  I'd feel pretty damn persecuted. Its their way of trying to deal with gun-involved violence. Give them a call and tell them you object to the wording of their sign and why. My point remains that it is not illegal in and of itself, nor any different than any other campaign to enlist citizen assistance in dealing with specific types of incidents. If you think we don't already get calls to check out people with guns, you'd be wrong.

Boy, you had a head on with the stupidmobile.




On that note I called the number and told them the police had guns.

People with a gun?  A cop is a people. Therefore, I will now report all cops I see with a gun!  That should keep them busy!

Quoted: Quoted: So, the Palo Alto police are not only infringing on your 2nd and 4th ammendments (right to bear arms and protection against illegal searches and seizures), but they are also encouraging people to call a 911 center frivolously. Asking citizens to report potential illegal activity is nothing new, nor in and of itself illegal.

Nothing illegal in possessing a few guns. I think I know what the police intend, but the sign is done poorly and implies that anyone possessing a gun should be reported. Also adds to the sheeple notion that guns are bad, etc....

And CA LE are not especially known for their clear understanding of firearms rights. What do they do with the snitches who report Joe Dirt having an arsenal at his house? Do they visit or decline automatically based upon the nothingness of the call?

Quoted: 1984 www.gs2ac.com/images/S1-IKEA_Sign_1K_Gun_Reward.JPG

Sweet mother of Josephus.

What...tha...fock...?

Anybody call yet?



I am going to snitch myself off I think.

Quoted: Its their way of trying to deal with gun-involved violence. Give them a call and tell them you object to the wording of their sign and why. My point remains that it is not illegal in and of itself....

Owning guns isn't illegal "in and of itself" either.

Quoted: Quoted: Its their way of trying to deal with gun-involved violence. Give them a call and tell them you object to the wording of their sign and why. My point remains that it is not illegal in and of itself, nor any different than any other campaign to enlist citizen assistance in dealing with specific types of incidents. If you think we don't already get calls to check out people with guns, you'd be wrong. Boy, you had a head on with the stupidmobile. On that note I called the number and told them the police had guns.

Someone should call the police to report someone driving a car.  For all we know that car could be stolen or not have insurance...

Quoted: Quoted: Its their way of trying to deal with gun-involved violence. Give them a call and tell them you object to the wording of their sign and why. My point remains that it is not illegal in and of itself.... Owning guns isn't illegal "in and of itself" either. humour.200ok.com.au/img/buy-a-vowel.jpg

I didn't say it was. At the same time, we all know there are guns used criminally and thats what they are trying to deal with here.

Quoted: Quoted: So, the Palo Alto police are not only infringing on your 2nd and 4th ammendments (right to bear arms and protection against illegal searches and seizures), but they are also encouraging people to call a 911 center frivolously. Asking citizens to report potential illegal activity is nothing new, nor in and of itself illegal.

Du is that way------>

BTW i am going to report my neighbors, since they could POTENTIALLY be driving there vehicle illegally without insurance

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Its their way of trying to deal with gun-involved violence. Give them a call and tell them you object to the wording of their sign and why. My point remains that it is not illegal in and of itself.... Owning guns isn't illegal "in and of itself" either. humour.200ok.com.au/img/buy-a-vowel.jpg I didn't say it was. At the same time, we all know there are guns used criminally and thats what they are trying to deal with here.

You've got a dick, maybe you're a rapist.

"911 Dispatch, what is your emergency"

"i need to report a man with a gun"

"what is your location"

"i'm in my house"

"where is the man with the gun?"

"in my house"

"sir, police are on their way, stay on the phone till they arrive"

"so are the police bringing cash or a check?"

"sir?"

"well yeah, I saw this sign that said to report anyone who has a gun and you get money, well, I have a gun, so are the police bringing cash or check, i'd really prefer cash....hello??  are you still there??"

Sickening. This is something right out of 1984. Spy on your neighbors and turn them in!

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So, the Palo Alto police are not only infringing on your 2nd and 4th ammendments (right to bear arms and protection against illegal searches and seizures), but they are also encouraging people to call a 911 center frivolously. Asking citizens to report potential illegal activity is nothing new, nor in and of itself illegal. Du is that way------> BTW i am going to report my neighbors, since they could POTENTIALLY be driving there vehicle illegally without insurance

Typical responses I would expect. Some of you fail to admit that while YOU may own and use firearms lawfully, some people do not. I expected no different from the board though.

Quoted: "911 Dispatch, what is your emergency" "i need to report a man with a gun" "what is your location" "i'm in my house" "where is the man with the gun?" "in my house"

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So, the Palo Alto police are not only infringing on your 2nd and 4th ammendments (right to bear arms and protection against illegal searches and seizures), but they are also encouraging people to call a 911 center frivolously. Asking citizens to report potential illegal activity is nothing new, nor in and of itself illegal. Du is that way------> BTW i am going to report my neighbors, since they could POTENTIALLY be driving there vehicle illegally without insurance Typical responses I would expect. Some of you fail to admit that while YOU may own and use firearms lawfully, some people do not. I expected no different from the board though.

You've got a car. Maybe you speed.
You've got a gun. Maybe you're a bank robber.
You've got a dick. Maybe you rape women. Maybe you rape men, too.
You've got hands. Maybe you hit your wife.
You own a computer. Maybe you have child porn on your harddrive.
You might be alot of things.

Correct isn't one of them.

Tag for laughs.

Quoted: You might be alot of things. Correct isn't one of them.

So in your mind some people do not use weapons unlawfully?

You CA guys worry too much. Don't get all stressed out about this - next big quake - you'll all be doing the doggy-paddle out in the Pacific. Just remember, can't tread water and hold your guns too.

Quoted: I wonder if it's possible this thread will continue without the namecalling and "grammar nazi" replies?

Come on, you've been around long enough to know that will never happen.  BTW, name calling is two words, ya tard

Quoted: Quoted: You might be alot of things. Correct isn't one of them. So in your mind some people do not use weapons unlawfully?

Are you still beating your wife?

Wow, talk about bizarre... I'm pretty happy to be thousands of miles away from that increasingly Orwellian shithole.

mb

Quoted: Quoted: You might be alot of things. Correct isn't one of them. So in your mind some people do not use weapons unlawfully?

The infinitely small percentage of the population that commits a crime with a gun vs. law abiding gun-owners justifies house to house searches without PC????????

Quoted: Quoted: You might be alot of things. Correct isn't one of them. So in your mind some people do not use weapons unlawfully?

The weapon is not to blame, its the person using it. If you want to get violence off the street you dont go after the weapons, you go after the people that use them. That sign should read $1000 Reward: For info on people doing illegal activities.

Quoted: Quoted: So, the Palo Alto police are not only infringing on your 2nd and 4th ammendments (right to bear arms and protection against illegal searches and seizures), but they are also encouraging people to call a 911 center frivolously. Asking citizens to report potential illegal activity is nothing new, nor in and of itself illegal.

"People with guns" is NOT illegal or "potentially illegal" activity.

Furthermore, it is an ABSURD waste of taxpayer dollars.