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Oh, yeah, the thread that started this. Teh subnetmask thread
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where's the connector to test yor AR for trouble codes?i don't see a barel fluid adjuster either?J/K nice box,i don't even want to guess how much you have tied up in that setup.50,000???
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No, I believe he is a rocket scientist. {sarcasm} Yes, he works at a Mercedes dealership. |
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That is an impressive collection of hardware.
What is even more impressive is that you obviously know how to use them. Thanks, for sharing. |
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I guess all Mercedes fasteners must just call for hella tight as I did not see any torque wrenches
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No, he is an Automotive Service Engineer. |
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Well, that's a start,anyway.
(Diemaker,Pipefitter, and home vehicle restorer for 30 years.) |
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german torque specs "gute-n-tight" |
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Nice setup, but I can't believe the crazy prices that the actual tool boxes cost. I imagine that your box alone was 7-10,000 dollars. Most of them don't have any real heavy duty locks, most have casters that roll and I think would be easy targets for a couple thieves who have access to a ramped trailer and a couple tie downs.
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We just had an attempted break in at work last week so I did an inventory of my stuff to have on hand in case they get in next time. I'm a machinist (CNC type) so I don't have a bunch of the stuff you've got there. However, in a single Kennedy 11 drawer top chest and a Waterloo 4 drawer/1bin roller I've got around $7,000~ish so far and still running inventory. I'd say about half of that is in precision measuring tools alone.
It's amazing how fast it can add up once you sit down and start looking at replacement cost. |
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The bottom was like $8Kish maybe? The prices have gone up significantly since 2000 when I bought the bottom. The hutch was next, followed by the top locker. Early in '06 I added the lockers, which cost me $7K. A toolbox is a lot like a safe. The cheaper ones come with the most basic of locks, and the ones like mine come with heavy duty pick proof locks. Mine are "tubar" locks, and every one is keyed alike. They have slip collars around them too. The steel is heavy, and my casters are spring loaded. The drawer slides are all ball bearing, and you can stand in any drawer you want, even at full extension, it will hold you. The work surface is a maple butcher block top, and I had to trade my original for this one when I got my hutch because it needed to be a little shorter to accomodate the hutch. The hutch has pegboard, but I don't use them. I just stick large magnets to it and hold up tools that way. Most of these boxes, even smaller ones, will weigh over a ton when loaded. Mine weights about a ton empty. Just about every tool you put in them is adding weight in the form of solid steel. Moving my box is like trying to push a large car around the shop. If a pebble gets under a wheel, it is crushed. I require three people to move mine, four preferably. It is extremely heavy and carries a great deal of momentum. Smaller boxes are often moved with flat bed trailers and pickups. Boxes like mine are moved with flat bed tow trucks and tie down straps. |
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Yes sir I completely understand. Machinists tools are very expensive. I have a flat piece of steel for checking deck surfaces on blocks and heads, and that lousy flat piece of steel 24" long cost ninety bucks on sale. I have never done inventory before, but now I have this photographic inventory. Its scary to think what someone with a prybar could accomplish, and the amount of stuff they can easily take, simply by rolling away everyone's tool carts. I have thousands and thousands just in my tool cart! Not only are you out many thousands in tools, but you have no way to work and make money without your tools! I can certainly appreciate your situation, and I really hope nobody steals your stuff. It makes me angry enough to lose a $50 tool, but to have your stuff stolen.... thats a hanging offense there! I don't know if you can engrave your machinists tools, as that may effect accuracy, but if you can then by all means do so as that will help recovery if they are ever stolen. |
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All your tools look very dirty... send them to me for proper cleaning... wait Ill stop by and pick them up (not something I do very often) and
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Wow. Nice tools. Have you ever considered opening up your own shop?
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No, I don't have the money, connections, people skills, money, knowledge, money, or even a real desire to. I enjoy fixing and modifying cars. I do not like dealing with the customers, paperwork, headaches, regulations, or employees. I might be simple, or it might just be that I am young. I can repair Mercedes vehicles, its the only thing I can do really well. Beyond that I never know what is going to happen. I think it would be really cool to own or work at a shop that did nothing but exotics, or even specifically the SLR McLaren. There just isn't a market for that where I am, and even if there was a market, it would still be extremely limited in its scope. I wouldn't want to work on farmer brown's pickup to support my desire to work on Mr. Rich's Half million dollar car. Working at the benz dealer has some benefit, as while I am regularly forced to work on crap I would rather not, I have no idea how folks at the ford dealer make a living. At least some of my customers have money and are willing to spend it, a lot of folks at other shops don't have that luxury. I spent some time at an independant, and didn't like it much. |
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Great. Now I have tool envy.
Being as I have TWO Porsches now... Man... I need more tools! I felt bad because I recently bought a set of standard open/closed ratcheting wrenches since my previous car had standard bolts and such. Now both of my cars are metric. And the Boxster has a shitload of Torx screws in it. I need more toolz!! |
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Yeah, we had guys with the monster tool boxes stuffed with the lasest/greatest tools, they couldn't repair something if their life depended on it. Most of the tools were never used, they just liked to have more than the other guys.
AB |
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Sounds like somebodies jealous, whatsamatta the wife won't let you spend you any money? |
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I've worked alongside guys with aircraft carrier boxes with no tools in them. When I was at the Chevrolet store, one guy everyone called Super Tech had this awesome Snap-on rig, one of the '57 Bel-Air boxes, teal with all the chrome trim and graphics and shit, looked great. He was a short bastard too, he had a little hook to reach up and close the lid on the top box of this monster. One day, I was helping him put axles in a Honda or something, his girlfriend's car I think. I asked him, "Alright, where's your big prybar?" He goes, "I don't have one." Hm...okay, I walk a few stalls down and get mine. Me again: "I need an 18mm wrench." Him: "I don't have one, but I got a crescent wrench." Me yet again: "Okay, deep well 30mm to zip this axle nut off." Him: "Um, can I borrow yours?" I finally asked him, "What do you have?" He opens up the big top drawer and has like a pipe wrench for every occasion, crescent wrenches, a couple big fucking hammers and a bunch of made in Taiwan junk. He later told me, showing me his ink pen, "This is the only tool I need!" Needless to say, he was the biggest crook in the shop and didn't last long. He almost set a Cadillac on fire one day and they showed him the door. |
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BIG +1 to that. |
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I have a friend who works at an independent MB "repair facility" in Camarillo.
His box looks a lot like yours. He's worked there for almost 20 years. I know he's spent a lot of money to buy the tools to fix MB cars. He drives an 87 Ford Ranger with a M110 engine in it. |
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Well, I have to admit I have worked with some of those guys too. |
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I felt that way for a while with my climbing equipment because I'd buy stuff on sale not because I needed it right at that moment but because I wanted it, but I always felt like a tool for having it laying around and not actually using it. Since I've increased the time I spend climbing I've used pretty much everything I own, even my ice screws, so I like to think I'm moving away from being the gear collector with the shiny unused stuff to the guy who actually uses what he owns. |
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I have the same bottom box in Talon Orange.....IIRC it ran just under 9k about 2 years ago. Mine has the stainless work surface. |
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Then you have guys who have been around since the days of Carbs & Points . They constantly add to and upgrade their tools . They embrace new technology and live to learn while adding more tools . They might even go back to school and earn a couple of engineering degrees while working full time and raising a family . They can read complex waveforms and pull the glitches out of a thousand lines of scan data . They reach a point where no failure , no matter how small can evade them . They eventually open their own business and spend 10+ years building it up . Only to wake up one day and realize they tired of it all and pack it in . Now all I have to figure out what I want to do when I grow up |
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saturnstyl, madmathew, chrome1
Nice tools you have there...lots of money in tools...sometimes no good return on investment...tool man always looking for his money. ME: Thirteen years in the business turning wrenches, five at an independent shop working on everything not affiliated with the Big Three from Detroit, another eight years working at a Nissan dealership. Called it quits in 1997. Tools in storage , used only on my vehicles now. Still connected and working in the automotive industry, just not turning wrenches. Can't say that I really miss the wrenching part. Congratulations on your dedication, if you will, to stay the course, updating your tool inventory and your knowledge to keep these machines on the road. Not getting any easier, is it? Oops, on edit: What are you doing now chrome1?? |
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What do you think of Hazet tools? My father has one of their catalogs and it seems they make a specialty tool for EVERY job on a MB.
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Edit to remove repeated German torque joke.
Link to the $4000 radio thread? |
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The only return on investment comes from the use of the tools . When your done and sell them off . It's typically at 20% or less of the retail you paid . That's why I still have all my hand tools and 90% of the scopes , scanners and specialty tools and testers . All of the shop equipment I sold to my tech that took over the operation ........ And I wished him luck As for what I'm doing now ? I'm back in the shop part time doing what I truly love . Diagnosing and fixing stuff . I really haven't decided what the hell I'm going to do long term , and I'm in no real hurry to figure it out . I'm 46 , divorced with grown kids . I don't own a home anymore so there is no one or no thing influencing the decision . One things for sure though . I'm a lot older and wiser then I was the first time around . |
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Here are mine, jumbled about. I used to work on MB's back in the mid 70's. Still got my passbook for Mercedes and Porsche (the black one) and the 77 manual. I was the Alignment/suspension tech for Mercedes, Porsche and Audi (all models), general for Audi (all models) and 914. oh, the undercoating for everything.
Passbooks, 77manual(I still have the Clmer books for Porsche)undr are Torgue wrenches, inductive timing light, cheap timing light Crap, photobucket went down, so I cant remember which pic is what. anyway, plier drawere, hammer drawere, my snap on compression kit, metric/standard tap/die sets, impact driver. Metric wrench drawer, standard wrech drawer, drill bits and I think in the back are what old timers will recognise as drum brake tools screwdiver drawer, allen wrenches, misc drawer and the top is socket sets, extensions, breaker bar ratches etc. Also on the top cover is the place I used to work, Irmer Porsche Audi mercedes in Rochester, NY. ETA: the bikes are what I work on now. I do have a computer program for the Ducati to read the ECU, set injectors etc., one for the Sporsters ignition, and a O scope program I am trying to use to get the Ducatis cam belts tensioned. They are 140hz, so I got a cheap mic and am going to try to get to work. The Tester Ducati uses falls into the "If you have to ask the price, you cant afford it catagory) ETA: you might recognise the "wheel" computer for front alignments on MB. |
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