we have gang infested cities and theyre worried about this shiite?

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Democrats target truckers, utilities with global warming bills
Thursday February 22, 2007



By DON THOMPSON
Associated Press Writer
SACRAMENTO (AP) Targeting truckers, contractors and others, Senate Democrats on Thursday introduced legislation to reduce greenhouse gas emissions beyond the landmark global warming law that took effect this year.

The package of bills would ban methane releases from garbage dumps, reduce exhaust emissions from trucks, construction equipment and school buses, and force utilities to increase energy from renewable sources.

Other lawmakers, including some Democrats, and Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger immediately criticized the legislative package. They said it would overwhelm state regulators who are still trying to decide how to implement last year's global warming law.

That law imposes the country's first economy-wide cap on greenhouse gas emissions, requiring California to reduce emissions of heat-trapping gases 25 percent by 2020.

But Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata, D-Oakland, said it will take state regulators too long to develop the regulations needed to achieve the mandate.

Schwarzenegger wants to let companies participate in an emissions market where they could sell, buy or trade credits. Promoting such voluntary incentives, while praiseworthy, is too slow, Perata said.

``There are things we can do right now,'' he said. ``These bills take direct action ... that will have immediate and long-term benefits.''

One of the bills he announced Thursday would require that half of passenger vehicl state regulators' efforts to implement the new law.

``We're trying to do it cooperatively,'' he said. ``We see regulators and we see private industries as partners in this.''

Senate Minority Leader Dick Ackerman, R-Tustin, said the state's already stiff requirements bring ``a steep cost to California's manufacturing industry, electricity customers and anyone who owns a car.''

He said he supports Schwarzenegger's incentive approach over new mandates.

The alternative fuels requirement won tentative support from the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, which has fought other California emissions controls.

``The auto alliance does support greater use of diverse fuels,'' spokesman Wade Newton said.

There are 60 alternative fuel vehicle models now available, up from 12 models in 2000, and many more are planned, he said.

The diesel industry supports renewable fuels, but questions remain about the quality of bio-diesel and how it affects engine performance, said Allen Schaeffer, executive director of the Diesel Technology Forum, a group that includes diesel equipment manufacturers.


On the Net:

Read the bills at www.sen.ca.gov

fuck em

Sounds like Arnold needs to reduce his intake of truck exaust.

I'm not surprised to see Don Perata's name...

Yep, typical ''head-up-the-ass'' proposal.

we have gang infested cities and theyre worried about this shiite?

Going after gangs costs money and is dangerous.  Going after businesses earns revenue


Besides, gangs only kill a few people......Global warming will kill us all...Al Gore says so!

Quoted: I'm not surprised to see Don Perata's name...

+1

Yeah, it's great man, I'm tellin ya.  I think it's Jersey that's even trying to make it illegal to run reefer units.  NY may be doin it to.  Not sure.  So on top of all your cold goods ruining, the drivers will die to.  

NEVER FUCKING MIND if it's 5 degrees, or 20 below, or 100, they expect us to sleep at night without idling our trucks.  Fucking cocksuckers.

LOL.

Garbage dumps produce methane because of the rules of chemistry and physics.

And the dems still think they can just "ban" it.

[God] What's that, you say?

[St. Peter]  Well, you see sir, they passed a law in California.   Decomposing organic masses are no longer able to produce methane.

[God]  But, but... well, I made the atoms, I made the protons, neutrons, electrons... they just do what they do.

[St. Peter] Well, they did pass a law.

[God] Oh, for goodness sakes.  WHere's this at?

[St. Peter] California, sir.

[God]  Of course.   Well, I'm not changing the rules.   They can go to hell.  Literally.   Get me the San Andreas Fault control panel operator on the line.   These self rightious idiots are about to learn about nature right here.

[St. Peter]  Yes sir.    

Quoted: LOL. Garbage dumps produce methane because of the rules of chemistry and physics. And the dems still think they can just "ban" it. [God] What's that, you say? [St. Peter]  Well, you see sir, they passed a law in California.   Decomposing organic masses are no longer able to produce methane. [God]  But, but... well, I made the atoms, I made the protons, neutrons, electrons... they just do what they do. [St. Peter] Well, they did pass a law. [God] Oh, for goodness sakes.  WHere's this at? [St. Peter] California, sir. [God]  Of course.   Well, I'm not changing the rules.   They can go to hell.  Literally.   Get me the San Andreas Fault control panel operator on the line.   These self rightious idiots are about to learn about nature right here. [St. Peter]  Yes sir.

I like that.

Quoted: LOL. Garbage dumps produce methane because of the rules of chemistry and physics. And the dems still think they can just "ban" it. [God] What's that, you say? [St. Peter]  Well, you see sir, they passed a law in California.   Decomposing organic masses are no longer able to produce methane. [God]  But, but... well, I made the atoms, I made the protons, neutrons, electrons... they just do what they do. [St. Peter] Well, they did pass a law. [God] Oh, for goodness sakes.  WHere's this at? [St. Peter] California, sir. [God]  Of course.   Well, I'm not changing the rules.   They can go to hell.  Literally.   Get me the San Andreas Fault control panel operator on the line.   These self rightious idiots are about to learn about nature right here. [St. Peter]  Yes sir.

In related news, I sometimes listen to NPR while commuting. I frequently hear spots for one of their sponsors, Treasure Homes, advertising their energy efficient homes in Natomas in the Sacramento area.

Then a few days ago I heard a story or two on different types of flood plain classifications, and people who thought they did not live in flood plains are finding that just because FEMA didn't classify it, their home may still be at serious risk. Homes are still being built in areas at risk, like Natomas. And the final bit of the puzzle is the levees. They are built of sand and will fail in a earthquake iirc about a 6.5 which is just a matter of time.

So while we all joke about California falling into the ocean, it seems they are waking up to the almost inevitability of the ocean literally falling into California in a disaster of potentially epic proportions.

Cue God.

Arlis-

You left out the part about how when the levees fail, salt water will infiltrate the fresh water supply for the lower 1/3 of California.

Note to self- check out desalinization companies.

I WOULD support a ban on lawnmowers.

Truckers should just dump their loads at the Cali border and let those idiots figure out how to move it the rest of the way.

they just extorted about 230,000 out of jessie james .for some bikes he built in a 5 year period.saying the didnt comply with cali EPA standards. at the meeting he told them he could fix the bike,s, thay balked,so he ask them whats this about? fixin the bikes or payin the money?he had to pay the money.it was a total shake down scam.

Quoted: we have gang infested cities and theyre worried about this shiite? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Democrats target truckers, utilities with global warming bills Thursday February 22, 2007 By DON THOMPSON Associated Press Writer SACRAMENTO (AP) Targeting truckers, contractors and others, Senate Democrats on Thursday introduced legislation to reduce greenhouse gas emissions beyond the landmark global warming law that took effect this year. The package of bills would ban methane releases from garbage dumps, reduce exhaust emissions from trucks, construction equipment and school buses, and force utilities to increase energy from renewable sources. Other lawmakers, including some Democrats, and Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger immediately criticized the legislative package. They said it would overwhelm state regulators who are still trying to decide how to implement last year's global warming law. That law imposes the country's first economy-wide cap on greenhouse gas emissions, requiring California to reduce emissions of heat-trapping gases 25 percent by 2020. But Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata, D-Oakland, said it will take state regulators too long to develop the regulations needed to achieve the mandate. Schwarzenegger wants to let companies participate in an emissions market where they could sell, buy or trade credits. Promoting such voluntary incentives, while praiseworthy, is too slow, Perata said. ``There are things we can do right now,'' he said. ``These bills take direct action ... that will have immediate and long-term benefits.'' One of the bills he announced Thursday would require that half of passenger vehicl state regulators' efforts to implement the new law. ``We're trying to do it cooperatively,'' he said. ``We see regulators and we see private industries as partners in this.'' Senate Minority Leader Dick Ackerman, R-Tustin, said the state's already stiff requirements bring ``a steep cost to California's manufacturing industry, electricity customers and anyone who owns a car.'' He said he supports Schwarzenegger's incentive approach over new mandates. The alternative fuels requirement won tentative support from the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, which has fought other California emissions controls. ``The auto alliance does support greater use of diverse fuels,'' spokesman Wade Newton said. There are 60 alternative fuel vehicle models now available, up from 12 models in 2000, and many more are planned, he said. The diesel industry supports renewable fuels, but questions remain about the quality of bio-diesel and how it affects engine performance, said Allen Schaeffer, executive director of the Diesel Technology Forum, a group that includes diesel equipment manufacturers. On the Net: Read the bills at www.sen.ca.gov

just another reason to leave that liberal shit hole.where even the republicans are democrats.

Quoted: we have gang infested cities and theyre worried about this shiite? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Democrats target truckers, utilities with global warming bills Thursday February 22, 2007 By DON THOMPSON Associated Press Writer SACRAMENTO (AP) Targeting truckers, contractors and others, Senate Democrats on Thursday introduced legislation to reduce greenhouse gas emissions beyond the landmark global warming law that took effect this year. The package of bills would ban methane releases from garbage dumps, reduce exhaust emissions from trucks, construction equipment and school buses, and force utilities to increase energy from renewable sources. (snip)

It just means that it will increase the costs of goods and services, and slow down future economic growth in California.
And ecourage more people and businesses to relocate out of state.

Quoted: Truckers should just dump their loads at the Cali border and let those idiots figure out how to move it the rest of the way.

AWSOME!!!!!!

after 40 years of living there, my uncle moved back to virginia to retire,he said that California was in a g@@damn mess!the lib,s and politicians have ruined the state and was losing people and business buy the droves! that taxes and realastate was a killer.

Quoted: Quoted: Truckers should just dump their loads at the Cali border and let those idiots figure out how to move it the rest of the way. AWSOME!!!!!!

Best idea yet!

Here we go.  

Stepping stone to a national payment plan to save the children.  I'll bet algore and all the other communist liberal maggots that believe in this global warming dogshit are simply wetting themselves with glee.

Quoted: we have gang infested cities and theyre worried about this shiite?

Those "gang infested cities" are Democratic Socialist strongholds and there's not a Goddamn thing they're going to do to piss those voters off.

They'll utterly destroy all the "rich people" (you know, those filthy motherfuckers that have the audacity to pull down more than 50 grand a year)  and the "capitalists" that are the root of all evil (you know, all the businesses that actually DO and MAKE things that give people, ewwww... jobs).


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Quoted: Truckers should just dump their loads at the Cali border and let those idiots figure out how to move it the rest of the way.

There has been serious discussion about that

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Truckers should just dump their loads at the Cali border and let those idiots figure out how to move it the rest of the way. AWSOME!!!!!! Best idea yet!

Yup I would be willing to haul all of my loads here and then go home

Truckers are having a very bad day.

George W. Bush is going after them too.

Bush decision to let Mexican trucks far into U.S. faces criticism

Some just might see this as union-busting.

Quoted: we have gang infested cities and theyre worried about this shiite?

You expect the liberals to throw their voting supporters in jail????? Have you LOST your mind?????