What's your definition for SHTF (Sh*t hit the fan)?  We see it all the time in posts, but what is it really?

Here's mine:
I wake up in the morning... see Personel trucks driving by, hear air raid sirens, and look towards center city Philadelphia and see jets having dog-fights.  No electricty, no water. No radio stations coming in.

I wanna get your opinions on what "SHTF" really is.

Rosie O' Donnell is declared 'president for life'.

I am not sure....but I feel it is getting close, and it will be internal.

sgtar15

In any SHTF situation in this country, you will be shooting at fellow Americans, (looters, murders, rapists) I doubt that our shores will be invaded by Foreign Army, if I'm wrong you can call me on it.[:D]

... when I HAVE TO leave my home/fort.

National ID Cards.

when you run to the bathroom and find out that someone else is in there, after you have eaten too much mexican food and beer

$17.49 worth of taco bell, $12.78 worth of tequilla, A very bad football game bet and a sense of honor.

Yea, THAT could kill a man.

SHTF is when pigs start to fly,  it will never happen!!!!!!

sgtar15

Edited because i just saw Stealth's member pic[:I][:I]
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How about working all night as a concierge from 2300 to 0700, writing up a term paper for school, then sitting in class when someone runs in and says that a plane just crashed into the trade center... then 25 minutes later, they say that ANOTHER plane crashed into the trade center (which is only 30 blocks away).... Then class ends and the lines at the pay phones are all 30-45 people deep.... Then there's people saying that ANOTHER plane has crashed into the pentagon....at this point you figure it has to be bullshit.... until you step outside and see dozens of ambulances hauling burnt people into the hospital across the street, where 2 nurses are outside with bullhorns asking for people to give blood...You go into the hospital and notice that the cops are wearing gas masks....While giving blood, you hear that another plane has hit in pennsylvania.....You get in your car and hit the west side highway which is at a standstill....people are standing next to their cars watching f-18's fly overhead....there's about 20-25,000 people walking out of manhattan through riverside park.... you get home 4 hours later and load up the rifle....

Does that qualify as SHTF?

Face it people, the Shit HIT the fan on 9/11. Anyone "waiting" for the "big" attack can wake up now, it already came. Lock & load, lets go to sling lead at the taliban.

Samhain44

Troy did a good definition of SHTF. SHTF situations will usually be resolved and life returns to a reasonable semblance of normalcy after a given amount of time. If you lived in L.A. during the riots that was definitely SHTF.

The next level is TEOTWAWKI where it permanently stays SHTF affecting whole countries and eventually the entire world.

Yea, I tend to make folks think of such things.  Hey, you ever get that area next to your house to grow stuff?  Veggies, flowers etc?

My wife is a an avid gardener... and once in a great while.. I like to pretend I actually care about such things.
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Actually, I am interested.  I just horribly suck at it.  Tried too many times and failed.  Decided to marry someone with a green thumb.

Screw it, I'm hammered.  You have a good one guy.

Yes I did stealth.  I planted some basic flowers and some pepper plants.   They are doing quite well[:)].  I just got the cheap flowers/plants from Home Depot along with some fertilizer.  Then I "cleaned" the dirt of all rocks and weeds, mixed in the fertilizer, and planted.  The sprinklers water them at night so I really don't have any maintance.

It was a great project for me and the kids....plus it was very relaxing.  I can't wait to do more next spring.

sgtar15

Great!!  This year I was able to keep some plants alive long enought to get some strawberries that my son could pick (and munch).

Seriously thinking about an automatic timer and a soaker hose.

It is a good hobby, and very relaxing.  I'm learning about patience... slowly (a hate learning it that way).  [:D]

Oh, and pepper plants are great, they can take a lot of abuse.  Almost as much as tomatoes.

Need I say more?

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Terrorist IND...

Los Angeles? Chicago? Atlanta? New York?

Fatality floor figure 500,000+

Coming soon to a country near you![:O]

Since we will continue to be a target, Mall Ninja's got the only solution:
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Stepping out of the WTC PATH station and being told to run for your life, while flaming bodies fall from the sky, crushing the guy next to you. Meanwhile, concrete rubble smashes your fellow commuter's head like it's the first 10 minutes of Saving Private Ryan.

How about that?

Works for me!

"So Hows The Family?"

Any occurance, natural or otherwise, which causes people nationwide to panic.  

Just imagine what would've happened if that plane had made it to the whitehouse and it was a day when both the Pres. and VP were inside.  Both of them and the majority of the cabinet, dead.  National panic.  People woulda gone crazy.  

Also, if we ever were attacked with EMP weapons.  I'm not sure if anyone has them or if we even have em, but it's a possibility.  Several attacks with those wiping out all electronics nationwide.  Major, major panic.  No vehicles, no radio, no TV, no aircraft.  Think about it, how would we protect the borders from invasion if electronics were wiped out?  Radio communication would be history.  That's probably the worst thing that could happen.

NO TV.  





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My aircraft would run fine after EMP.  The radios would be fried but I don't think there would be anyone to talk to anyway.  Volkwagen diesel PU should run fine too.  Five speed manual transmission and a mechanical fuel shut off = no electricity required.  Planerench out.

My soon-to-be mother-in-law coming to visit for a week!!

1)[peep].....2)[shock].....3)[argue].....4)[moon]

When the US is sending it's military to whoop some ass because some people in your country blew up their buildings, and you have nothing but a camel, and all countries around you are sealing their borders, the S is going to HTF real soon :)

Is that sort of like Goldeneye?

Yep. I'd say that just about covers it....