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Posted: 10/30/2006 1:49:33 PM EDT
ABL It's a big frikkin LASER! |
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The begining is missile defense, but think of the possibilities for 'basic' anti-aircraft use. A single ABL at 70,000 feet flying a figure 8 orbit could knock down fighters with impunity. Being on top of the gravity well is the best place to fight from.
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Who would have guessed that a B747 could look positively badass? They always looked good, but that one looks mean.
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It should be called the Shark, of course.
It's got a big fricking laser on its head! CJ |
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All grossness aside- I wonder what it would do to a human. I imagine a person would blow up from their bodily fluids being turned from liquid to a vapor state very quickly.
Someday when lasers are small enough to be boiled down to a vehicle mounted weapon, sniping or AA would have no issues with wind or bullet drop, if you can see a target optically, you can hit it. |
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This is pretty much where many land based systems are at today even with ballistic weapons, if you can see it, its dead. So most future sytems are being designed to be hard to see, "stealth tanks" etc. |
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I wonder how the laser affects different materials it hits. Would a ceramic layer similar to the Space Shuttle tiles provide any protection? What about a high quality mirror? |
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Yes and yes. Both are also nearly impossible to maintain, and definitely impossible in a combat situation. Future armor will probably just incorporate a very highly insulative value like polystyrene along with the ceramics and other materials. It will never really be a great tool against ground targets, but aircraft, spacecraft, and missles are harder to "armor" against the threat. |
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Not the beginning. Aegis BMD is the beginning. GBI is the middle. Really, the USAF is getting in near the end. |
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Yes, but chemical lasers based on giant 747's could be just the beginning. Think of the possibilities of a solid state laser put into orbit. |
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Yes to both, and as the other guy mentioned maintaining it in the field would suck. In reality the game will mainly goto the guy with the better sensors and stealth tech (much like the submarine game) he who gets detected first gets killed, regardless of any passive protection. As for HEL's (high energy lasers) on ground vehicles I think that day is still far in the future, they are still nowhere near compact/rugged enough for such use, plus the power requirements are insane. More likely we will see some sort of high velocity railguns first, or ElectroThermalChemical type guns. |
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It'll work great on exposed light infantry. Is it me Akmed or is it hot out here? |
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As a bonus, when you use it against infantry, after you roast the first guy, all his buddies will have the standard infantry reaction to incoming fire and throw themselves prone on the ground. Since the laser is airborne, they just increased their target area. |
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This one will be called the "P'yongyang Persuader." |
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Smoke will see a LOT more use on the battlefield when lasers become prevelent. Soldiers will be encased in full body armor and NBC gear with temperature regulation, smoke grenades will be popped on a regular basis to disrupt LOS and scatter the laser, tanks and APC's will have smoke generators to make screens to defend against aircraft using lasers, etc. Maybe even a layer of coolant under the armor or super-conducting material. |
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I just realized that costume has really huge nipples on it. |
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It would make a nice suppression weapon that knocks out radars, radio antennas, fuel/ammo dumps, missile lanchers, "important" enemy personnel, key vehicles and so on from high up in the sky. |
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The problem with ground targets is 'how do you hit it'?
The sensors available to that aircraft at operating range and altitude won't lock on to most ground targets.... So shooting OBL is out of the question... Second, you need to shoot something that will cause a secondary explosion (fuel, ammo, etc), as the laser does no splash-damage. The reason it works on missiles is that it's supposed to ignite the fuel & make the missile blow itself up.... It would make a great 'escort' for an AWACS or J-STARS, though.... |
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You don't have to blow up OBL, you just have to cook him. |
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If they are telling *YOU* about this great new weapons system, it's been operational for a loooong time, and something better is already in use......
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But you need to get a lock first... And a person on the ground is going to be too small to lock up.... Now, if you got him to do a 'Dr Strangelove' and ride an ICBM, then go at it... |
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Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks of that movie whenever I hear about this project. |
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I think it needs some missiles and crap attached to the wings, bomb bays, manned turrets..
We need another "B-17" |
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The B-17 didn't do it's self-protecting job very well... Ergo P-51D... One of the first things 'figured out' after WWII was that turrets on bombers don't help enough to justify the weight.... |
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Ummm, no. Given the weapons of WW-II our planes did much better than Japanese, British, or German planes that had very few defensive weapons. As with a lot of things the best way to defend against a weapon, tank, fighter, etc. is another weapon of the same type. The change in weaponry, A-A missiles, with their signifigant range advantage over MG/cannons is what made defensive guns on bombers obsolete. Not to mention the increased speeds of jet fighters making a gun shot on a closing jet much more difficult than a prop plane. |
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Heh. The ABL has some very impressive thermal imaging sensors (absolute state of the art) and adaptive optics that allow it to track very small, very distant targets moving at a high rate of speed accurately. It doesn't burn through the outer skin of a TBM or ICBM by hitting it for a millisecond, it actually has to track it for a bit. Think about it, hitting a 2'X2' target at 100+ miles while it is moving at several hundred (if not thousand) MPH with a laser and holding it on the target for several seconds. All the while you are moving and maneuvering as well. It's not quite as easy as it sounds. The ABL would be very usable against any ground targets, but it only carries enough fuel for a limited number of shots and costs too much to waste on those types of targets. Maybe in the future the AC-17 will have a nice fat turreted laser that will smoke ground pounders. |
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