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Posted: 10/2/2006 2:33:31 PM EDT
With the election comming up the Repulicans are driving fuel cost down to drive up votes and the Democrats orcastrating these "school shootings" .....
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What a retarded post. |
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I'm going to try my best not to vote for either party.
But is there a choice? I will MAYBE vote for a Republican candidate if he is a newbe. I will TRY to find Independant candidates that are worth voting for, but that is going to be tough. I will vote for a Democrat if it will send an incumbent Republican home. I WILL vote. Staying home is not an option. I will NOT vote for the same lying piece of shit I got elected the last time. |
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lesser of two evils. Libertarians don't have a viable candidate beyond local elections.
'nuff said. No Expert |
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While you are right , it's sad that around here you can never tell Being around US government workers most of my life has taught me one thing. This government isn't competent enought to pull of a "conspiracy" . I know , thats just what "they" want us to think |
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Sometimes I wish we had term limits, it seems like the longer someone is in Washington the more corrupt and incompentent they become.
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If Congress didn't vote to increase the debt limit and the Chicoms didn't buy the paper .gov would come to a screeching halt. We are bankrupt. The Fed can crank out fiat to its hearts' content, prices will just go up. One day we will come to a bad end. Thanks to the two major parties.
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Because the Dimocrats would be 1000 times worse AND they WILL most certainly go after your guns...
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Like Ted Kennedy for example? |
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I'm disgusted with both parties, especially when it comes to immigration. I don't think the Repubs have done nearly enough on this issue, and they have majority control, so no excuse.
But however bad the Repubs are, just imagine how much worse the Dems will be. Weaker GWOT, more porous borders + amnesty, a new AWB...I shudder to think what will happen if they gain control of congress in Nov, more so if they manage to get a Dem into office in '08. I'll vote republican, simpy because they disgust me a bit less. |
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97 Reasons Democrats Are Weak On Defense And Can't Be Trusted To Govern In Wartime INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY Posted 9/29/2006 Today's Democrats are nothing like Presidents Roosevelt, Truman and Kennedy, who with courage and decisive action kept on top of their jobs and aggressively confronted one national defense crisis after another. Jimmy Carter, elected during the Cold War with the Soviet Union, and (1) believing Americans had an inordinate fear of communism, (2) lifted U.S. citizens' travel bans to Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam and Cambodia and (3) pardoned draft evaders. President Carter (4) also stopped B-1 bomber production, (5) gave away our strategically located Panama Canal and (6) made human rights the central focus of his foreign policy. That led Carter, a Democrat, (7) to make a monumental miscalculation and withdraw U.S. support for our long-standing Mideast military ally, the Shah of Iran. (8) Carter simply didn't like the Shah's alleged mistreatment of imprisoned Soviet spies. The Soviets, (9) with close military ties to Iraq, a 1,500-mile border with Iran and eyes on Afghanistan, aggressively tried to encircle, infiltrate, subvert and overthrow Iran's government for its oil deposits and warm-water ports several times after Russian troops attempted to stay there at the end of WWII. These were all communist threats to Iran that Carter never understood. Carter (10) thought Ayatollah Khomeini, a Muslim exile in Paris, would make a fairer Iranian leader than the Shah because he was a religious man. (11) With U.S. support withdrawn, the Shah was overthrown, and (12) the ayatollah returned and promptly proclaimed Iran an Islamic nation. (13) Executions followed. Palestinian hit men were hired to secretly eliminate the opposition so the religious mullahs couldn't be blamed. Iran's ayatollah (14) then introduces the idea of suicide bombers to the Palestine Liberation Organization and paid $35,000 to PLO families whose young people were brainwashed to attack and kill as many Israeli citizens as possible by blowing themselves up. This inhumane menace has grown unchallenged. The ayatollah (15) next created and financed with Iran's oil wealth Hezbollah, a terrorist organization that later bombed our barracks in Beirut, killing 241 Marines and sailors. With Iran's encouragement this summer, (16) Hezbollah attacked Israel and started a war that damaged Lebanon and (17) diverted the world's attention from Iran's nuclear bomb program. In November 1979, Iranians, including (18) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, their current puppet president who was elected in an unfree, rigged election in which opponents were intimidated into not running, (19) stormed the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and held 52 U.S. personnel hostage for 444 days. Carter, after nearly six months, (20) belatedly attempted a poorly executed rescue with only six Navy helicopters (three were lost or disabled in sandstorms) and Air Force planes with Delta Force commandos. The mission was aborted, but foul-ups on the ground resulted in a loss of eight aircraft, five airman and three Marines. The bungled plan was never put down on paper for the Joint Chiefs to evaluate. There were practice sessions, but no full dress rehearsal, and pilots weren't allowed to meet with their weather forecasters because someone in authority worried about security. America (21) can thank the well-meaning but naive and inexperienced Democrat, Jimmy Carter, for a foreign policy that lost a strong military ally, Iran, and (22) put the U.S. at odds with a gangster regime that was determined to build nuclear bombs to wipe Israel off the map and threaten the U.S. and other nations. Iran also has a working relationship with al-Qaida, which also wants nukes. Care to connect the dots? Shortly after a meeting at which Carter kissed Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev on each cheek, (23) the USSR invaded Afghanistan. Carter the appeaser was shocked. "I can't believe the Russians lied to me," he said. During the Carter Democrat period, (24) communism was on a rampage worldwide. In an unrestrained country-capturing spree, communists took over (25) Ethiopia, (26) South Yemen ( (27) located at the mouth of the Red Sea where they could block Mideast oil shipments and access to the Suez Canal), (28) Afghanistan, (29) Angola, (30) Cambodia, (31) Mozambique, (32) Grenada and ( 33) Nicaragua. Compared to the pre-Vietnam War defense budget in 1964, Carter requested in fiscal 1982's defense budget (34) a 45% reduction in fighter aircraft, (35) a 75% reduction in ships, (36) an 83% reduction in attack submarines and (37) a 90% reduction in helicopters. The Soviets for years (38) consistently spent 15% of their GDP on defense; (39) in 1980 we spent under 5%. As a percentage of our government's spending, defense was lower than before Pearl Harbor. No wonder a Republican, Ronald Reagan, had to vastly increase defense spending to help us win the 45-year-old Cold War and relegate the USSR to the ash heap of history — an astounding feat no one (except Reagan) believed possible. In addition to a communist enemy rapidly expanding its territorial conquests, Reagan (40) inherited from Democratic management a 12% inflation rate (highest in 34 years), (41) 21% interest rates (highest since Abraham Lincoln was president), (42) a depleted military and (43) a serious energy crisis. For eight years (44) congressional Democrats ridiculed and fought with Reagan and were on the wrong side of nearly all his defense and economic policies. They said he wasn't bright — an "amiable dunce," as party elder Clark Clifford (45) put it. They maintained his tax cuts wouldn't work, (46) that he insulted the Soviets by labeling them the "Evil Empire" (47) and that he was going to start World War III by putting missiles in West Germany to counter new Soviet SS-20 nuclear missiles installed in East Germany. (48) John Kerry wanted a nuclear freeze that would guarantee the Soviets overwhelming tactical nuclear superiority in Europe. (49) Kerry seemed to constantly advise retreating, giving up and handing our enemies what they wanted — a recipe for us to lose every war. Democrats waffled (50) on Reagan's request for support of Contras who were fighting to stay alive and take Nicaragua back from Daniel Ortega's communist Sandinistas. Each month, the Soviets poured $50 million worth of Russian tanks, anti-aircraft weapons, Hind attack helicopters and munitions into that central American country. Democratic leaders (51) all dismissed as a ridiculous pipe dream Reagan's plan for the U.S. to develop a missile that could shoot down incoming enemy missiles. (52) Showing no vision, Democrats mockingly called it Star Wars. Democratic politicians (53) were proved wrong on virtually every vital Reagan policy. (54) His tax cuts set off a huge seven-year economic boom that created 20 million new jobs. (55) Interest rates tumbled from 21% to 7 1/2%. (56) Inflation nose-dived from 12% to 3%. And (57) oil prices collapsed when — contrary to warnings from Democrats — he removed price controls on natural gas. Reagan's motto was "Peace through Strength," (58) not peace through weakness and accommodation. With his steadfast determination and perseverance, the communists were kicked out of Grenada and defeated in Nicaragua, Ethiopia and Afghanistan. And for the first time in history Soviet expansion ended. Reagan (59) never quit exerting pressure on the Soviets. In Berlin, he demanded that Gorbachev "tear down this wall," and in time the Berlin Wall fell. In the end the communist Soviet Union dissolved. The Reagan-Bush administration had won the Cold War. Years later, (60) a group of Russian generals were asked about the one key that led to the collapse of the USSR. They were unanimous in their response: "Star Wars." Gorbachev feared it would render the Soviets' nuclear missiles obsolete for an overwhelming first strike, and they could not afford to build the hundreds more that would be needed or hope to match America's great technical ability. (61) So Gorbachev threw in the towel after Reagan held firm at Reykjavik and refused to stop SDI research. Years later (62) Gorbachev said he didn't think it could have ever happened if Reagan hadn't been there. In July 2001, (63) the U.S. military used an SDI missile launched thousands of miles away and flying at near bullet speed to blow a test missile out of the sky. (64) Democrats from Dukakis to Gore to Kerry all said this would be impossible and that missile defense would never work. They were all wrong. Reagan was right. The current terrorist threat (65) to U.S. national security did not begin on 9/11, but in the early 1990s. Bill Clinton was elected November 1992. (66) The first bombing of our World Trade Center on Feb. 26, 1993, killed six people and injured 1,000. Terrorists hoped to kill 250,000. (67) Some of the apprehended terrorists were trained in bomb making at the Khalden terrorist camp in Afghanistan. October 1993. (68) A Somali warlord, with help from weapons and top trainers sent by al-Qaida, shot down two U.S. Blackhawk helicopters. Eighteen Americans were killed and 73 wounded. Clinton, under pressure from a Democratic Congress, ordered retreat and withdrawal of all U.S. forces. Said Osama bin Laden: "They planned for a long struggle, but the U.S. rushed out in shame." January 1995. (69) Philippine police discovered Ramzi Yousef, mastermind of the World Trade Center bombing, had a plan to blow up 12 American airliners over the ocean and fly a plane into CIA headquarters. They informed Clinton's government of the plot. Bin Laden (70) tried to buy weapons-grade uranium to develop a weapon that would kill on a mass basis — like Hiroshima. (71) In November 1995, a car bomb exploded at a Saudi-U.S. joint facility in Riyadh, killing five Americans. June 1996. (72) Khobar Towers, which housed U.S. Air Force personnel in Saudi Arabia, was blown up by Saudi Hezbollahs with help from Iran and some al-Qaida involvement. Nineteen Americans were killed and 372 wounded. July-August 1996. (73) The U.S. received from senior level al-Qaida defectors intelligence on the creation, character, direction and intentions of al-Qaida. February 1998. (74) Bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahri issued a fatwa declaring "war on America" and making the murder of any American anywhere on earth the "individual duty" of every Muslim. May 29, 1998. Finally, (75) after a long series of deadly bombings carried out since 1992, and bin Laden calls to attack the U.S., Clinton's CIA created a plan to raid and capture the al-Qaida leader at his Tarnak Farms compound in Afghanistan. After months of planning, consultations with senior officials in other departments and numerous full rehearsals that went well, the raid was called off at the last moment by CIA Director George Tenet and others worried about possible collateral damage and second-guessing and recrimination if bin Laden didn't survive. Aug. 7, 1998. (76) Al-Qaida blew up U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam, five minutes apart, killing 200, injuring 5,000. Now (77) Clinton's team, wanting to take stronger action, decided to fire Tomahawk missiles at bin Laden's training camps as well as a Sudan aspirin factory. (78) But the administration gave up to 48 hours notice to certain people, including the chief of staff of Pakistan's army, so India wouldn't think the missiles were aimed at them. Somehow forewarned, bin Laden and his terrorist leaders all left — no terrorists were killed, but U.S. ineffectiveness was on full display. Dec. 20, 1998. (79) Intelligence knew bin Laden would be at the Haii house in Kandahar but again passed up the opportunity due to potential collateral damage and the risk of failure. (80) Clinton approved a plan by his national security adviser, Sandy Berger, to use tribals to capture bin Laden. But nothing happened. Next, (81) the Pentagon created a plan to use an HC 130 gunship, a more precise method, against bin Laden's headquarters, but the plan was later shelved. Lt. Gen. William Boykin, deputy undersecretary of defense, told the 9/11 Commission "opportunities were missed due to an unwillingness to take risks and a lack of vision and understanding." Feb. 10, 1999. (82) The CIA knew bin Laden would be at a desert hunting camp the next morning, the 11th. But the military failed to act because an official airplane of the United Arab Emirates was there and it was feared an Emirate prince or official might be killed. May 1999. (83) Detailed reports from several sources let the CIA know that bin Laden would be in Kandahar for five days. Everyone agreed it was the best chance to get bin Laden. But word came to stand down. It was believed Tenet and Clinton were again concerned about civilian collateral damage. A key project chief angrily said three opportunities were missed in 36 hours. October 2000, (84) the USS Cole was bombed, killing 17 U.S. sailors. No action was taken due to concerns expressed by Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Americans must learn from history and costly mistakes. Sadly, (85) Democrat Jimmy Carter, a Southern peanut farmer, became our Neville Chamberlain, creating the specific conditions that have brought us the three greatest threats to our national security today: 1) (86) Iran's nuke-bound terrorists; 2) (87) al-Qaida and other terrorists; and 3) (88) North Korea and its nuclear weapons. Carter's (89) inability to deal with the Soviet communists emboldened them to invade Afghanistan. A 23-year-old bin Laden also was drawn there to recruit young Muslim fighters and build a network to raise money for the anti-Soviet jihad that later became al-Qaida. Years later, (90) civilian Carter took it on himself to go to North Korea and negotiate a peace agreement that would stop that communist country from developing nuclear weapons. He then convinced Clinton and Albright to go along with it. (91) The signed piece of paper proved worthless, as the Koreans easily deceived Democrats and used our money, incentives and technical equipment to build nuclear bombs and increase the threat we face today. The Clinton administration (92) had at least 10 chances to get bin Laden, but it repeatedly could not make the decision to act. There were too many people and departments involved, too much confusion and no strong leader to make the tough decisions to act. They were too timid and concerned about repercussions if they failed. Contrast this inability to take action with Harry Truman's ability to make sound decisions and get results on complex defense issues — from dropping the bomb to end WWII to helping Iran and Turkey stave off the Soviets, from defending Greece from communist takeover following WWII to confronting and beating the Soviet's Berlin blockade with a 14-month night-and-day Berlin airlift, from taking on the North Koreans to ultimately firing the popular Gen. Douglas MacArthur for insubordination. Further Democratic incompetence in matters of defense emerged from Clinton's attorney general, Janet Reno, and her deputy, Jamie Gorelick. (93) They built a legal barrier that in effect prevented the CIA from sharing intelligence with the FBI before 9/11. Democrats in the Clinton administration (94) allowed the selling of important defense technology and secrets to the Chinese, who are now engaged in a massive military buildup. Estimates are that (95) 10,000 to 20,000 terrorists were trained in bin Laden's many camps in the years before 9/11. Oil is also vital for our national defense. In 1952 we produced 93% of the oil we consumed. Now we depend on the Mideast and others for 66%. Democrats have been largely responsible for this because they have blocked all efforts to drill in Alaska and certain offshore areas estimated to contain 10 billion to 20 billion barrels of crude. Democrats (96) in Congress condemn current efforts to intercept terrorist phone calls, to mine data to ferret out future attacks against us, and to trace the movement of terrorist money through banks. All the while they want special treatment for enemy prisoners captured on the battlefield. This helps the enemy and undermines our troops in the field. We're in a war. Something always goes wrong in a war, and our military leaders have made mistakes in Iraq. But quitting and leaving would amount to defeat for the U.S. in the global war on terrorism and create chaos. Quitters never win. Here's the problem: America needs two strong, sound political parties. As far as domestic policy is concerned, it really doesn't make much difference if Democrats or Republicans are in power. Ours is a free, entrepreneurial society where anyone can do anything he or she wants if they have a positive attitude and the desire to work, learn and achieve. Ambitious people come from all over the world to take advantage of this tremendous opportunity. This is one reason our economy is so resilient, continually bouncing back from periodic setbacks, driven by new inventions and achievements. However, (97) when it comes to which party has proved more capable in acting to defend and protect Americans from foreign enemies, there is only one choice. From Johnson to Carter to Clinton, virtually all the defense policies and decisions made by Democratic administrations have been unsuccessful. And in many cases, they have unintentionally but materially increased the danger to our national security and the safety of all Americans. And if you add three more reasons--Ned Lamont, Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi--that brings the count up to an even 100. |
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takes time. vote for enough libertarians in local elections then they get more respect regionally then nationally. americans these days won't do anything that doesn't happen right now. know tons of poeple that don't vote because they don't like the candidates that they feel will win instead of voting for the people that they actually want to win.
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I am a reg. Libertain. But I vote Repbulican and suport there candates. Lesser of two evils. The lest Gov. Is the best Gov.
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Well then, we will know who to thank when the Dems get Congress back, then the White House, and then institute a new and better AWB. BTW, which "lying piece of shit" are you referring to? |
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Because no alternative party has proven itself to be any better on a state-wide or national level. The Libertarian Party is too loony. The Reform Party is too kooky. The Constitution Party has zero track record. At least the Republican Party has momentum enough to keep the Communists out of power. And if that's all the Republican Party has, that's enough. |
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Vote for people that will ban our guns, raise our taxes, and weaken our nation's defenses? How fucking brilliant of you. |
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I'm doing the same thing. I will try my best to not vote for an incumbent. Why should I vote for all Republicans over Democraps, only way to get the Republican party to realize we are pissed off is to get all the Incumbents out of office and hope the new congressidiots will realize that you need to look out for what's best for the country not tote the party line. Voting for the least of two evils only insures that we stay with a system dominated by two parties, neither of which have the interest of the nation in mind. |
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Ignorance must be bliss... |
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I feel strongly about BOTH of those issues! |
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Because they have been fooled by the left/right duality of their choice into believing that there are only two options. ETA: If all you can see is R and D winning the election, you're basically left with one option. There's very little difference in the two. |
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What if NO ONE voted for ANYONE?
Seriously, what would happen? Would the entire government come to a screeching halt? Is that even covered in the Constitution? |
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Voting a straight Republican ticket will get you to the same place, you just aren't fucking brilliant enough to figure it out. How many times have you voted for a president? How many campaigns have you been actively involved in? How many doors have you knocked on? I have "worked from within" for over twenty years. The incumbents look at their base as cattle, not employers. They're always courting the "new" voters and no lie is too outrageous when the campaign is on. Then they get to the State Capitol or the National Congress and all they are worried about is getting elected again. Fuck the campaign promises, fuck the constituents, kiss tha ass that holds the big money. Republicans need to be SHOWN that they will either represent their constituents or they will be fired. This election cycle is the perfect time to show as many of them as posible where the exit is. Weak willed Republican voters who are pulling the lever while holding their noses are the real problem. They encourage a complete lack of accountability on the part of the politicians. |
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I started a thread with the same sentiment a few weeks ago and got majorly jumped on. |
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I went to the county Republican "Meet and Greet Barbeque" a week ago and told one of the "movers and shakers" of the state party exactly the same thing.
Right after he got done giving a speach about how excited he was to see the "college vote" swinging our way. Now THERE'S a bit of wishful thinking. I got him off in a corner and told him the same exact thing I typed above. Nicely, but directly. He recognized my face, because he has seen me at political functions in the past. He agreed with my sentiment, but begged me not to give up. I reminded him that I was the base he was taking for granted when he stood up there ticking off poll figures, and I was not voting for anyone in the room, except maybe that newbe over there in the hand-shaking line. I could tell by his actions and words that he was not hearing this for the first time. So, yeah, when the Dems take the Congress this fall, it will be ALL my fault. Boo fucking Hoo. Maybe the Republicans will get the message before 2008. |
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If this is a joke, it is a moderately funny one. If this is serious, then you are obviously beyond hope. |
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You always should vote. I am seriously sick of eitther of my 2 choices. I know there are third parties out there, but in reality it comes down to Republican or Democrat and they are both equally slimy. I will probably vote for Allen for senator from VA, and see if there is anyone else on the ticket for the other races. |
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Yes, oh so brilliant one... Voting for people that are the exact opposite of what I want in office is somehow a good thing that I am not intelligent enough to see.... I'd expect to hear this sort of immature logic from a college student, but from someone that claims to have "worked from within for over 20 years" it's quite sad, really. Either you've got a separate agenda, or you just have no damned sense in you whatsoever. |
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Yeah, I have an agenda alright. It goes like this; Everybody who said one thing to get elected and then persues their own agenda in office is getting fired. You just go pull that lever and pat yourself on the back, like a good Republican. It's the easy way out. I've done it for years. This election cycle, I will actually have to think. It sucks for me, but doing it your way is what got us in this mess. |
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vote?
vote republican and vote for the lesser of two evils.. end of story.. vote democratic and you get pelosi, kennedy, shumer, fienstein, kerry with sorros driving the bus. true polically power is won from the ground up. the republican party has enough infrastructure and its underlying philosphy is good enough. what's needed is some good old return to fundamentals with some strong party leadership and a dash or two of charisma from a leader with true conservative values. hold your nose and vote repubican this time or you may end up up to your eyeballs in socialist dogshit as a consequence.... if you want something better long term, pray for conservative leadership and put in some time working with grass roots folks to get the right people into office.. |
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We cover this every month or so.
The mentally limited that think it's wrong to "vote for the lesser of two evils", are almost beyond help. Unless I am running for office myself, any candidate I vote for will support some issues that I do not support. I vote for the candidate that most closely supports the issues which are important to me. That is almost always the Republican candidate. And just one question, please. I remember the Assault Weapon Ban, 10 round magazines, outlawed "stocks and grips", and all the rest of that foolishness. When was the last time we heard of such nonsense? Oh. That's right. When the "don't vote for the lesser of two evils" types let the Democrats take control of the gooberment. Wake up, people. |
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I just think it sucks we only have 2 evils to choose from, we need at least 4 or 5 different evils. Like this A: B: C: D: E: |
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Agreed. I like having more evils to choose from. |
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Over a dozen major terrorist attacks targeting the US mainland thwarted, thousands of Jihadis meeting their doom in Iraq & Afghanistan, very, very strong economy, status of the RKBA improving across the nation... Yes, this horrible "mess" that you're going to save us all from... |
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+1 IMHO, I think we need a "None of the Above" box. If "None of the Above" wins, we throw out/disqualify the people on the ballot and start over. I bet a lot of non-voters would turn up to vote for "NotA". |
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You "nose holding straight ticket" voters just keep laughing.
"Mentally limited" is pretty fucking insulting, by the way. Rather conceited, too. But hey, we got that border control we asked for, didn't we? Oh, yeah, sewed up tight, it will be. I am a Republican at heart. I am simply tired of being crapped on by the guys who shake my hand and smile while they tell me they are lifetime members of the NRA. They are rinos, almost every one. What makes them a better choice than the Democrats? I am not saying "vote Democrat". I am saying FUCK the rinos, and if enough people do the same, maybe we will get some Republicans back in office. I would LOVE to see "none of the above" on the ballot. Maybe that would wake some of the public servants up. |
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You do realize that it would be perfectly acceptable for someone to reply to your posts with the "baby crying seal of the Democratic Party", right? Listen, your logic is 100% flawed. You would remove someone that has done 75% good and 25% bad and replace them with someone who has already stated they will do 75% bad and probably no good? I think they have a term for that it goes something like "don’t cut off your nose just to spite your face". I'm just as pissed at the Republicans as the next guy when it comes to issues like Immigration and the lack of spending control. But to think you would, or will, have it any better with anyone else is just flat wrong. There are two things that will happen if the Dem's get in power. 1) Taxes UP (for the "rich" of course). 2) Our country will spend the next two years with investigation after investigation.. and nothing else will get done. Other possibilities are 3) new stricter gun control laws. 4) Failure in Iraq and other parts of the world. 5) Cave to tyrants such as Irans... Almondjoyeid (sp?) and Kim Dong Ill. (aka Diplormancy). 6) We'll be sucking the UN's teet. 7) Grovel at the feet of the Frenchies asking for forgiveness. Oh, what joys the libs will bring us... but at least we showed those Republicans. So, you just keep on callin us "lever pullin Republicans" and I'm gonna stash this thread away. Then, I will keep track of the threads that go on and make sure to bring this up every single time you feel the need to complain about the new Democrat leadership. |
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LOL LOL LOL dude, you need more tinfoil... apply directly to forehead, don't just wrap your wang!!!1 |
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I think you're referring to the individual I was quoting... |
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Its nearly impossible to override the Kool-Aid, AR-10, you're not going to convince them, just let 'em go...bahh |
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I vote LP.
Nationally they might not have much of a chance, especially in a presidential election, but their standing determines how much federal money they get for their election next go-around. Nobody wins an election these days without tons of cash, no matter how charismatic they are or now much their platform makes sense. |
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Yes, sorry about that. It's fixed. |
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Vote repulican and keep your guns ??
Check out John Warner (R-VA) and John McCain (R-AZ) and the AWB. Either party will sell you out if they think it will get them votes. Some of them will sell you out cause they know you hate the other party so much , you are never going to vote for the other party, or cast a vote that would mean "your" party would lose. (Like a vote for a 3rd party) |
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