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[url]http://www.specialweaponsllc.com/[/url]

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I can't understand why it's so important for people to have large capacity mags in a [i]target[/i] rifle.  
...If these people want a rifle that'll take 30 rounder, why not buy an AR with a target upper?  Besides, I'm not ever going to lower myself by buying and of SW's products.  I plan on keeping my dignity, thank you very much!

brouhaha

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I don't own an SL8, and don't particularly care to, but I would be interested in a gun that looked like a G36.  If someone reputable (i.e., NOT Todd) came out with a low cost G36 (non-folding) stock and a black refinish, I would be interested in that.  

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Are you people stupid or just idiots?

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The mag is do-able, but even if it isn't, a new grip and but stock in a [b]MUST[/b]! The one that is with it now, I'm not even sure if it was made for a human hand! Probaley the most uncomfortable thumb-hole stock ever.


[b]Mold Shop[/b]  [url]http://www.az-precision.com[/url]

[b]Gun Shop[/b]   [url]http://www.cavalryarms.com[/url]

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I have 2 USC's, a case of brand new GI "Greas Gun" mags and a full service Injection Molding facility and mold shop...What ever shall I do?(I also just droped cash on a new SL8-1 [;)])

The mag is do-able, but even if it isn't, a new grip and but stock in a [b]MUST[/b]! The one that is with it now, I'm not even sure if it was made for a human hand! Probaley the most uncomfortable thumb-hole stock ever.

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Do you think you could have warned them of Todd's POS work in a less sarcastic manner? If you have a beef w/ todd that's no reason to take it out on them. Man, did someone piss in your coffee this morning or what?

Being that we have announced our new products and reviewed them with our attorney we do have a few items that will insure us a patent and we are going to patent them. This is fair warning for any company that tries to use any or our design information and produce something that is a violation of our patent. We will sue and shut you down. All items shipped with have patent pending marked on the side.

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Why would he sue you to shut you down?  Wouldn't it be easier to just buy your entire company???[rolleyes]

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I actually played with Todd's conversion this weekend at the "Fun Show", his table was across from one of mine (man, talk about a profession dispalay! Even the dude with beanie-babies knows enough to hang a banner and use a table cloth). His idea is sound, but I am going at it from another direction all together and will make a unti that looks like it was made in a real factory. Also, he started with the SL8 where as I am going after the USC first.


Will it be a direct copy?
The funny thing with Todd, he has [b]never[/b] even held one of my products but feels free comment on them, where as I have his "stuff" in my safe...

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QCMGR.... No it will not and you hurt my feelings with that question[:(]

I used to do work for Todd and as a matter of fact, I did most of his prototype work (I built the first SW3). I have copies of his original solid models on a disk over at the mold shop, so if I wanted to "cut his grass" I could have done it a long time ago. I have never used any of that information and don’t plan to start now. The guns I have are kind of like the old Holocaust survivor who refuses to have the tattoo removed [b]“Never Forget and Never Again!”[/b]

This new bread of H&K is a whole new animal. [b]I do plastics[/b]. My family has been building top of the line injection molds since 1984 and we have been a major player in the injection-molding arena for the past 6 years (unfortunately that is how I met up with him, when he still worked for TRW). You have parts in your home that we either built the mold for or parts that we actually molded here in out plant. This new line of H&K guns is plastic and like I just stated, that is what I do.

I am also a shooter. I have competed in IPCS matches all over the country (even did some shooting in Holland) and for the past few years I have been doing 3-gun. I’m not very good, but I love it. These new H&K guns were not built for people to shoot with any degree of comfort. My first priority is to make them usable, i.e. new grips and stocks with ergonomics of a shooter in mind. If I can make them use larger capacity magazines, then I will. Todd’s main goal is to make the rifles use Hi-cap’s by the addition of a “M16 mags well” and to get the US part count up he is including a “Gas Pistol” (?). He is taking the easier way; he is doing parts that don’t need a mold. I plan on cutting tools that will allow these rifles to become what the original engineers had in mind and still meet the PC requirements of our Government without invoking the wrath of H&K.

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I was wondering if it would be a direct “cosmetic” replica.   Of an HK G36.  (Certainly not a copy of Todd’s franken crap) I would be interested in a G36 replica if it was executed properly.

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Watch out, the POS is covering his ass (not that I blame him):



Looks like someone is getting worried about competition...

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Doesn't 922(r) (the import ban) not apply to short barreled rifles?   If you SBR'd your USC, you could add the pistol grip and "hicap" mags w/o worrying about US parts.  It would still need to abide by 922(v) (the 94 crime bill), at least for now, of course.

Rocko

DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
            Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
                    Washington, D.C. 20226

                         MAR 22, 1994

                                                 LE:F:FE:RLB
                                                 3312.5

Mr XXX
Address
City, State

Dear Mr. XXX:

This refers to your letter of February 28, 1994, in which you
inquire as to whether the making of certain National Firearm Act
(NFA) weapons is prohibited by Title 18 United States Code
(U.S.C.), Chapter 44, Section 922(r).  The weapon in question is a
FN/FAL type firearm having a barrel length of less than 16 inches
which is assembled from an imported British L1A1 parts kit and a
domestically manufactured frame or receiver.

Title 18 U.S.C., Chapter 44, Section 922(r) provides that it shall
be unlawful for any person to assemble from imported parts any
semiautomatic rifle or shotgun which is identical to any rifle or
shotgun prohibited from importation under 18 U.S.C., Chapter 44,
Section 925(d)(3), as not being particularly suitable for or
readily adaptable to sporting purposes.

However, the Bureau has previously determined that the lawful
making of an NFA weapon would not violate Section 922(r), since the
section only addresses the assembly of "nonsporting" firearms, and
not the making of NFA weapons.  Therefore, the lawful making of a
short barreled rifle would not be precluded by Section 922(r).

If you decide to proceed with your project, it will be necessary
for you to obtain prior approval by first submitting an ATF Form 1
(Application To Make and Register a Firearm) and paying the
appropriate $200 making tax.  Additional information relative to
this procedure may be obtained from the following source:

            Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
                     NFA Branch, Room 5300
                 650 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
                     Washington DC 20026  

We trust that the foregoing was responsive to your inquiry.  If we
may be of any further assistance, please contact us.

                       Sincerely yours,
                          [signed]
                     Edward M. Owen, Jr.
              Chief, Firearms Technology Branch

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Rocko,

I think that letter basically says that 18 USC 922 does not preclude the making of an SBR in that those sections inconsistent with the approval of a Form 1 "making" would not apply.  In other words, you must comply with the remaining prohibitions of 18 USC 922 that do not conflict with the permitted SBR "making" per a Form 1.

If you have ever made an SBR per a Form 1, you will notice in the left hand corner of the first page, ie. the "approval" box and, in that box, you will see a condition stating that the weapon must "be in compliance with 18 USC 922v"