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Posted: 8/22/2001 7:32:25 PM EDT
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Not me. I'll be soylent green first!
[):)] NSF |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 7:34:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: At this rate, we all will be gay by the year 2104 I plan on being dead by 2104. |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 7:36:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: Not me. I'll be soylent green first! [):)] NSF [size=5]SOYLENT [green]GREEEN[/green] IS PEOPLE@!@!@!@!@![/size=5] [uzi][@:D] |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 7:37:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: Just saw a story on the news... The census reports are in. 1/2% of all American couples are same sex. 6.8% of all couples in San Francisco 5.1% of all couples in Washington DC 4.6% of all couples in NYC and those are the ones who admitted it. At this rate, we all will be gay by the year 2104 Why do you care? Not flaming, just inquiring. |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 7:40:29 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why do you care? Not flaming, just inquiring. I am either gay, or sickened by it. Guess. |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 7:47:40 PM EDT
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OK so you are supposed to be born gay right. Therefore it must be something in your genes that make you gay. So with that in mind, most if these folks will never have kids of their own. That's fine with me. Now of of them are getting smart and doing that invetro thing. [:(]
I'm Catholic. That should say where I stand in this matter. Another reason I left CA. |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 7:50:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Why do you care? Not flaming, just inquiring. I am either gay, or sickened by it. Guess. Why would you let people you don't even know have that much control over your emotions? Can you change the fact? |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 7:53:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why would you let people you don't even know have that much control over your emotions? Can you change the fact? I am sickened by sickening behavior. I don't campaign against them, but when I hear that 1/2% of all the couples in the US are gay, not to mention the higher portions in metro cities, it makes me sick. It's "moral decay". |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 7:59:38 PM EDT
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Kudos lordtrader.
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Posted: 8/22/2001 8:05:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: I am sickened by sickening behavior. I don't campaign against them, but when I hear that 1/2% of all the couples in the US are gay, not to mention the higher portions in metro cities, it makes me sick. It's "moral decay". I will not argue your points but we surrendered the cities some time ago. |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 8:06:09 PM EDT
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Exactly Lordtrader. I'm RC also. But I don't think that 50% of all couples are gay. I think gay people and the people who support them are trying to slowly push upon us that being gay is acceptable, especially with the media[V]
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Posted: 8/22/2001 8:08:14 PM EDT
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Why does it matter to you what people do in private? I mean if you guys were gay I wouldnt give a shit it doesnt bother me at all. By the way I am not gay.
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Posted: 8/22/2001 8:10:01 PM EDT
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Quoted: especially with the media[V] Showtime has a show about em now. Something queer. [:(] They can have a show like that but they cancel Tales of the Gun. Go figure. |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 8:10:17 PM EDT
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Because you are from New York. It is passe to you.
Anything is acceptable there, except guns. |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 8:10:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: But I don't think that 50% of all couples are gay. That's one half on one percent, not one half of all or 50 percent. 1/2% of all American couples are same sex. |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 8:12:58 PM EDT
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See what happens when you let a mental illness* spread? I think the world can learn from WW2 Germany what to do to solve this.
*Being Homosexual was only no longer considered a mental illness because it became politically incorrect to think so, not by scientific fact. |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 8:17:16 PM EDT
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[b]sorry[/b] LARRYG, I think I was typing to fast to realize...[:o)]
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Posted: 8/22/2001 8:18:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: See what happens when you let a mental illness* spread? I think the world can learn from WW2 Germany what to do to solve this. *Being Homosexual was only no longer considered a mental illness because it became politically incorrect to think so, not by scientific fact. Correct me if I am wrong, but did you just hint towards you thinking all gay people should be murdered? Talk about moral decay... |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 11:15:21 PM EDT
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I just feel sorry for the poor kids adopted by gay couples. Just imagine the SHIT these kids will have to endure in school.
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Posted: 8/22/2001 11:18:33 PM EDT
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Ah, hell the cities are just storage facilities for the sheeple until the V arrive to start stocking up [:)]
country folk they'll leave so we can repopulate with hardier stock. Or something like that. |
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Posted: 8/22/2001 11:26:53 PM EDT
[#21]
As long as Heather's mommies put it on video, I'm OK with it. [;)]
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Posted: 8/22/2001 11:33:56 PM EDT
[#22]
Smartest, happiest, most successful guy I know is a product of a same-sex lesbian household.
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Posted: 8/22/2001 11:37:34 PM EDT
[#23]
I'm all for faggots, that leaves more women for the rest of us.
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Posted: 8/23/2001 2:58:23 AM EDT
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...or each other it would appear [:(]
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Posted: 8/23/2001 5:40:12 AM EDT
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Quoted: Why does it matter to you what people do in private? I mean if you guys were gay I wouldnt give a shit it doesnt bother me at all. By the way I am not gay. Thats fine but it doesn't STAY in private. Anyhow, Wrong IS Wrong no matter who accepts it. Biologicly it dont work, THAT should at least tell you something. Not a flame JBR, just a observation. |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 5:47:16 AM EDT
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They were always with us.
I think it is great that they have less fear of getting beaten up or killed. The gay couples I see improve inner cities, do volunteer work, and are much better role models than the "breeders" in the neighborhood. |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 5:51:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: They were always with us. I think it is great that they have less fear of getting beaten up or killed. The gay couples I see improve inner cities, do volunteer work, and are much better role models than the "breeders" in the neighborhood. I can't deny them that. THey are usually sucessful, clean, contributory members of society. My problem lies with 1) Gay proleferation 2) Gays adopting a child With sociatal acceptance of such behavior, it will grow. It isn't a "closet" issue. It's an acceptance one. As far as them adopting a child, well, that is just so wrong on so many levels I can't really begin. |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 5:53:35 AM EDT
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As long as they do not try to infringe on my life or liberty, then I have no quarrel with them.
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:02:14 AM EDT
[#29]
Some people spend way too much time thinking, worrying and complaining about gays. They probably look at gay porn, too....
...for "research". |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:08:20 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted: They were always with us. I think it is great that they have less fear of getting beaten up or killed. The gay couples I see improve inner cities, do volunteer work, and are much better role models than the "breeders" in the neighborhood. Absolutely. JBR...I agree with you too. I have known some gay people who are very quality people who I would trust more than most straight people I meet. People I would have behind me if the SHTF (well, maybe not [i]behind[/i] me [;)]) Not only that, but I would rather have my children listen to them preach acceptance and tolerance than have them listen to people like Confederate talking about "faggots". I'm not gay, but to each his own as long as they don't hurt me or the people I love. Moral decay will not be due to homosexuality, it will be due to the fact that parents no longer want to be parents. They can't be bothered. PS - Confederate...not a flame, I'm just making a point. [EDITED FOR SPELLING] |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:10:23 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: Some people spend way too much time thinking, worrying and complaining about gays. They probably look at gay porn, too.... ...for "research". LOL! You are right though. A lot of these people make such a fuss about the morals (or lack thereof) of other people to try and distract themselves and others from the fact that they see the same things in themselves. |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:16:10 AM EDT
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Quoted: I just feel sorry for the poor kids adopted by gay couples. Just imagine the SHIT these kids will have to endure in school. Yeah, that really sucks. But they are enduring that shit because parents and peers are being taught that it is acceptable to give them shit. "Oh yeah, you can make fun of him. It's okay...he doesn't have feelings. He has two mommies and they like to touch each other. Let's ostracize him." |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:16:22 AM EDT
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Quoted: Some people spend way too much time thinking, worrying and complaining about gays. They probably look at gay porn, too.... ...for "research". So you just "tolerate" it? "tolerance is for people who have nothing to believe in." |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:18:22 AM EDT
[#34]
From a biological point of view, if being a homosexual is a genetic defect why hasn't it died out over time since you cannot reproduce?
Also, are there any poor gay people? |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:20:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: So you just "tolerate" it? "tolerance is for people who have nothing to believe in." Bullshit. Intolerance is for people who are afraid of differences in others because they are insecure about themselves or feel threatened due to mental or physical weakness. |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:21:32 AM EDT
[#36]
gays, lesbos, they don't bother me. what does bother me is the anti-gun undercurrent that seems rampant among their ilk.
i work with a lesbo and she doesn't mind other people's ownership, but when i offered to buy her one for her b-day, she said: "no way, never will i be associated with any guns, ever." so i bought her a book instead, entitled "gun women" by two prominent, pro-gun, lesbian researchers/authors, and she said "great, all my friends will ask, WTF is [i]THIS[/i] book doing here?" what's that all about??? |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:23:13 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted: Quoted: Some people spend way too much time thinking, worrying and complaining about gays. They probably look at gay porn, too.... ...for "research". So you just "tolerate" it? "tolerance is for people who have nothing to believe in." Huh? How did you possibly arrive at that conclusion, based on what I posted above? Was what I said a little too close to home for you? [:)] |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:29:08 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted: Quoted: So you just "tolerate" it? "tolerance is for people who have nothing to believe in." Bullshit. Intolerance is for people who are afraid of differences in others because they are insecure about themselves or feel threatened due to mental or physical weakness. "intolerance is word libs use to single out people who won't conform to their views". I am in no way afraid of homosexuals. I find their lifestyle sickening and I will not tolerate people telling me that its a genetic thing. [b]IT IS A CONSCIOUS CHOICE![/b] Everyone wants to make a "disorder" out of their "issues" in order to justify what they are doing. |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:33:03 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted: Huh? How did you possibly arrive at that conclusion, based on what I posted above? Was what I said a little too close to home for you? [:)] You said stop complaining about gays, well I am not just going to keep quiet while what I believe in is trampled to the ground just like my 2nd Amendment rights.... |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:35:12 AM EDT
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There's two issues in here as I see it...
1) Why are gay people gay? 2) Is it right? I think 1 has yet to be proven. Scientist have said that there is something chemically different in gay people's minds. I'd like to point out that there is probably something chemically different in a smart and stupid persons mind, in a fat and thin persons mind, etc. I'm of the opinion that 75% of gays are by choice (physical pleasures dominate most of us, be it eating or sex) and perhaps the last 25% are due to genetics or outside influences. 2 is a bit touchy. I am of the opinion that if it's uncommon in nature, then it should remain uncommon in humanity. Nature has shown that acts of homosexuality in creatures is not accepted. (When was the last time you went to the zoo to see two male monkeys having at each other??? how about gay lions???) Humans are simply animals, creatures of this planet who think they are above and beyond everything else. We're smarter so thus we're better. We're at the top of the food chain, so we MUST be the chosen people of some "god" who created us. If we were a race of all males, then we would die off... The point is simply this. If it's uncommon in nature, then to me it's most likely wrong. Nature selects the strong to survive, weeds out imperfections in species, and ties all things together in the great "circle of life." [=D] Does this mean we should let our old die, let our weak die, or fight for leadership? Who knows, I think we're above certain actions and to the point where we can aid and protect those in need, but we're also overpopulating, using up all our natural resources, and shooting to live forever be it through the abstract, such as "religion," or through science, such as cloning. I say gimme a few good years, lemme die, and put my ass in the ground. To become a part of the grand "circle" is just another step if life. -- GB (These are simply my opinions of the matter. I hold NO hostility towards anyone unless they push their beliefs on me. (Be it religion, sexual orientation, etc.) I'm not afraid to admit I have had friends who were gay and that I judge a man or woman by their actions and not the color of their skin, their age, or their sexual practices.) |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:36:55 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted: "intolerance is word libs use to single out people who won't conform to their views". I am in no way afraid of homosexuals. I find their lifestyle sickening and I will not tolerate people telling me that its a genetic thing. [b]IT IS A CONSCIOUS CHOICE![/b] Everyone wants to make a "disorder" out of their "issues" in order to justify what they are doing. What I'm saying is that it is counter-productive, unintelligent, and intolerant to treat someone differently because of what they do behind closed doors with another consenting adult. I have a problem with people who can meet someone and have a great time with them but as soon as they find out that person is gay, they want nothing to do with them. I don't know whether it is genetic or not, but I'll let you tell me since you have apparently done extensive scientific research on the matter. EDITED TO ADD: If you don't like the word "intolerance", open up a thesaurus an replace it with any synonym you like. |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:39:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Huh? How did you possibly arrive at that conclusion, based on what I posted above? Was what I said a little too close to home for you? [:)] You said stop complaining about gays, well I am not just going to keep quiet .... LOL, read this again and show me where I said, "stop complaining about gays": Quoted: Some people spend way too much time thinking, worrying and complaining about gays. They probably look at gay porn, too.... ...for "research". ...someone has some issues. |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:40:39 AM EDT
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Quoted: From a biological point of view, if being a homosexual is a genetic defect why hasn't it died out over time since you cannot reproduce? Also, are there any poor gay people? Homosexuality does not halt reproduction. If homosexuals were sterile, then it probably would over time. I'm not saying it is genetic, I'm simply saying we have thus far been unable to disprove that it is genetic. |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:43:16 AM EDT
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Quoted: I judge a man or woman by their actions and not the color of their skin, their age, or their sexual practices.) Edited by OLY-M4gery, for brevity. If everyone would do that we would be far better off. If everyone would act as they would want to be judged, we would be far, far better off. |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:45:56 AM EDT
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(These are simply my opinions of the matter. I hold NO hostility towards anyone unless they push their beliefs on me. (Be it religion, sexual orientation, etc.) I'm not afraid to admit I have had friends who were gay and that I judge a man or woman by their actions and not the color of their skin, their age, or their sexual practices.) [b]AMEN!![/b] |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:46:57 AM EDT
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Robert Heinlein had the best perspective on it, as far as I'm concerned:
Copulation is spiritual in essence---or it is merely friendly exercise. On second thought, strike out "merely." Copulation is not "merely"---even when it is just a happy pastime for two strangers. But copulation at its spiritual best is so much more than physical coupling that it is different in kind as well as in degree. The saddest feature of homosexuality is not that it is "wrong" or "sinful" or even that it can't lead to progeny---but that it is more difficult to reach through it this spiritual union. Not impossible---but the cards are stacked against it. But---most sorrowfully---many people never achieve spiritual sharing even with the help of male-female advantage; they are condemned to wander through life alone. Homosexuals have been with us forever, as far as we can tell. Is it genetic? Is it learned behavior? Is it partially both? Who knows? Is it a mental illness? Only in really uptight, strictly religious cultures. I think that argues that the strictly religious have more issues than gays do. I think that if you're offended or disgusted by homosexuals then that says more about YOUR insecurity than their sexuality. Yes, some homosexuals are WAY out there, but then so are some heteros. To lump all of them into a single class because of the behavior of a few is the definition of "stereotyping" and "bigotry". We should know what that's like - we are evil people who own guns and want to see children dead in the streets. Just ask Sara Brady. I'm constantly amazed at people who protest that racism is wrong, but have no problem in hating gays. Then again, human beings are the only creatures on Earth capable of believing three mutually opposing ideas before breakfast. |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:49:04 AM EDT
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orginally posted by LordTrader:
I'm Catholic. That should say where I stand in this matter. Another reason I left CA According to the same study Texas was number two behind California. You can run but they'll get you in the end...hehe |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:50:39 AM EDT
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As a small sidenote, I would also point out (oh man this is gonna get me shit on... PUN INTENDED) that to me, anal sex may be great fun, but it ALSO is not the way nature intended it.
Again, it may be right or wrong, I don't give two shits (WOOHOO AGAIN!!!) about that, I'm merely stating that some of these "anti-gay" people go home at night and do their wives up the poop chute or request a bit of probing of their anus. (G-Spot... perhaps, SHIT, for sure!) The easiest thing to do is to worry about your own life and let these things slide, otherwise you'll just get shit on for your own actions and choices. (OMG 3 IN ONE POST!!!) "Live free or die." - Just don't live free in my living room... -- GB |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:51:32 AM EDT
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Quoted: What I'm saying is that it is counter-productive, unintelligent, and intolerant to treat someone differently because of what they do behind closed doors with another consenting adult. I have a problem with people who can meet someone and have a great time with them but as soon as they find out that person is gay, they want nothing to do with them. I don't know whether it is genetic or not, but I'll let you tell me since you have apparently done extensive scientific research on the matter. EDITED TO ADD: If you don't like the word "intolerance", open up a thesaurus an replace it with any synonym you like. The issue that stains them is the adoption of children. To approve of that, one has to in essence say "it is OK to raise a child in an enviroment where 2 men have sex with each other"- and in such an enviroment, homosexuality is being "forced" on the child first hand. He has to identify it, and endorse it, because the people feeding him are partaking in it. Intollerence? There has to be a line where we as a society decide cannot be crossed, and don't tollerate things that breach it. |
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Posted: 8/23/2001 6:51:51 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted: I am in no way afraid of homosexuals. I find their lifestyle sickening and I will not tolerate people telling me that its a genetic thing. [b]IT IS A CONSCIOUS CHOICE![/b] Everyone wants to make a "disorder" out of their "issues" in order to justify what they are doing. Just one question: If homosexuality is a "conscious choice", could YOU "choose" to be sexually attracted to a man? 'Cause, buddy, [u][b]I[/u][/b] sure as hell can't. In my opinion, then, homosexuality [i]is NOT[/i] a "conscious choice", and your assertion is in error. |
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