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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:50:23 AM EDT
[#1]
what state do you live in?
this is why i don't talk much about guns with people at work/school unless i know they're into it already. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:50:27 AM EDT
[#2]
Before I read the thread title closely, I thought sure you'd posted "You remind me of TBK..."
 Seriously though, I think you should have cut Mr Smart Ass off at the knees immediately, before he had a chance to get an audience. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:51:24 AM EDT
[#3]
Wear Rambo style linked ammo belts to work Monday.
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:51:29 AM EDT
[#4]
Some people are born retarded. They can't help it.
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:52:13 AM EDT
[#5]
Simple answer.
Invite them out shooting!! |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:53:13 AM EDT
[#6]
BTILC ?
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:53:20 AM EDT
[#7]
Buy that limey a skirt.
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:53:29 AM EDT
[#8]
Sounds like a conversation I had with another Brit I know
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:54:26 AM EDT
[#9]
Having guns as a hobby equals killing and torturing people, then jerking off on them? Your co-workers are fucking morons.
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:54:59 AM EDT
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i don't advertise to anyone that i own guns. only family and some close friends know that i own guns.
same for ccw. select few know that about me. never know who is going to turn on you 
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:55:09 AM EDT
[#11]
Fuck em They are all Laughing at you now.
But when you come to work on your last day. Decked out in your BDUs' and A face full of cammo.They will be begging for their lives as you hop from cubicle to cubicle shooting them with your practised mazambique drill  ETA Just kidding |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:55:34 AM EDT
[#12]
You have to fire back at them. Report that guy who mentioned btk to HR for inappropriate comments.
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:56:19 AM EDT
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Tell Pete R. Puffer to STFU.
The rest; well they seem to already have been asimalated into the hive mind. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:58:12 AM EDT
[#14]
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity"
-Sigmund Freud Not to mention, home slice there is from England. If it was such a great country ,gun laws and all, GO BACK. That and make bleating noises when people express anxiety about firearms. My father in law doesn't see the need for my black rifle but when I question him about his high powered sniper rifle he takes a step back. 96Ag |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:58:27 AM EDT
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Hmmm, tough call. I'd say throw it back in their liberal minded way and go to HR and complain about the hostile workplace and harrassment you suffered. That'd show them. No Expert |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:59:41 AM EDT
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+1. That's where I'd go with it. Simply say, in a non-threatening (no smart ass  ) way "How can you possibly understand and condemn something that you have NO first hand experience with." No confrontation, just make it clear that it's a cool thing (going to the range) and keep the offer on the table.Oh, and read this as well: jpfo.org/ragingagainstselfdefense.htm It's a bit long but worth EVERY SECOND. It lays out, in detail what is going through the "minds" of people like the ones you encountered at work. It will go a LONG way to giving you the tools to deal with this kind of response. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 11:59:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:01:15 PM EDT
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I am in law school and after a few controversial case discussions in class I became the resident gun expert and violent psycho. That was early in the year. Since then people have come to understand that I am not afraid to be myself, and my sense of humor & gregarious nature have dispelled things to lovable psycho I guess
 It ain't right but people's people. Esp ignorant ones.I was very proud however. This girl in our class more opinionated than many (although we all are in law school) came up to me. We had a pretty heated discussion last semester about guns (katrina, current cases & all) she was a victim of violence and couldn't seperate the events that terrorized her from the facts. After the unresolved argument it was water under the bridge and we remained "school friends". She came up to me and apologized for being wrong. She conceded her feelings probably influenced her opinions too much and she really didn't know about guns. She resolved to get some exp so that if she hated them at least she had some experience etc to back her convictions. I extended the invite to show her how to use them and to invite her to the range when we were freed up. I also told her I was very proud of her for telling me that and for having the strength to abandon "beingrightedness" at law school. Sometimes we are not going to win on the issues because people are emotional. I am sure people think you're a good guy before the BTK. Keep up the good work showing them you're a good guy who just happens to like those awful things. Maybe one day that will come in handy for us when something shakes them off the fence and they want to learn more. My 2 cents. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:02:20 PM EDT
[#19]
"Damn son! you got served!"
haha, you'd think as much as you post on AR15.com you'd pick up on the pro 2nd ammendment lines that can be used to put uneducated little shits in their place... Like the fact that "army guns" are used in less than 1% of all crimes, as ATF stats show and the Brady Campaign admits... Or that guns are protected in the United States because we used them to kill fucking red coats like your co-worker who tried to impose their will on us... and we won't let anyone tread on us again... etc. etc. the list goes on. Polish up on your debate-fu young grasshopper |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:02:46 PM EDT
[#20]
Does Pete have a boss? If so, I'd have a sit-down, and complain about Pete contributing to a "hostile working environment."
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:03:51 PM EDT
[#21]
I'd definitely take a couple of minutes to write down the time, date, witnesses present, and details of the conversation...
Trust me, it will come in handy in a few weeks when you are fired for some bullshi'ite reason that has nothing to do with guns. You'll want this information to give to your attorney for subpoenas and depositions when you file your pending "Wrongful Termination" lawsuit. just my .02, nothing more. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:07:33 PM EDT
[#22]
+1 on all the above. It's a bill of rights, not a bill of needs. Criticising you for gun ownership is just as bad and wrong as criticising a person based on their religion, race or sexual orientation. People need to become educated about that. If it's considered wrong to bash libtards for their twisted beliefs, it should be wrong to bash us for ours. The only way guns should come into it is if a person is making direct threats of violence ("I'm gonna shoot the fuckin place up !!!") or anything like that. And making threats like that is already quite illegal. However, simply discussing weapons is not and should not be illegal, just as much as it shouldn't be a crime to discuss archery, paintball, martial arts, weight lifting or any other hobby/sport. People have a right to disagree, however, I think the poster's coworkers were wrong for openly criticising his hobbies, particulary since these activities are not work-related. They should have just voiced disagreement and then moved on. If I hounded the hell out of everyone I disagreed with, I would probably be in jail for 87,000 counts of harassment. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:07:46 PM EDT
[#23]
steve-oh,
Having gone through a similar experience, though on a smaller scale, I can empathise with you. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:09:37 PM EDT
[#24]
Proper response:
"Because part of being a man is being able to defend yourself and those who depend on you." |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:10:15 PM EDT
[#25]
Start by emailing this transcript to your HR manager. Use the term "Hostile Work environment" and get a tape recorder. Seriously.... And start updating your resume.
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:13:14 PM EDT
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Point out some facts to them:
Guns do not cause violence people do. People have been killing each other years before there were guns. Crime rates as measured in victim surveys are all higher in England than the United States. Crime rates as measured in police statistics are higher in England for half of the measured crime types. A person committing serious crime in the United States is generally more likely than one in England to be caught, convicted, and incarcerated. Incarceration sentences are also generally longer in the United States than England. Source: www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/html/cjusew96/contents.htm Next ask Pete if worried about guns ask what the hell are you doing in my country? Tell him about the most deadly weapon out there CARS! We lose more people on are nations roads every year the we lost during the entire Vietnam War. If your co-workers don’t understand after these facts are present well you can’t argue with Stupid!
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:15:06 PM EDT
[#27]
That's one of the most terrible things I have ever heard!
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:17:45 PM EDT
[#28]
+1, tell him that not to knock it until he has tried it. Your co-workers sound like they were the abusive bastards in high school. I want to beat them senseless. I can say this much about these jerks: "Liberalism is the transformation of mankind into cattle." -Friedrich Nietzsche And yes, in case that Brit fool talks trash again, quote him this: "That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." -George Orwell I love quotes. They are the perfect COMPLEMENT to my wit (haha!). |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:18:10 PM EDT
[#29]
Sounds like you're the victim of a hostile work enviroment
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:18:15 PM EDT
[#30]
You should certainly report the BTK thing to your boss. You should have followed that comment with a "What did you just say?" Being a liberal pussy is not a license to make slanderous and hostile statements. Around he they'd already be showing him the door.
I suggest you extend an open invitation to all your co-workers to go shooting. I find the best come back for the "hunting" bullshit is twofold. 1. The second amendment isn't about hunting. The word is no where in there. 2. The second amendment is what makes all the others possible. Knowing the thoughts of the founding fathers its really quite interesting they felt freedom of speech, assembly and religion was only just a tad more important than the ablity to protect against a tyrannical government. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:18:23 PM EDT
[#31]
+1, hostile work environment. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:18:52 PM EDT
[#32]
I'd be tempted to play it up, act psycho, point my finger like a gun and wink, just to drive him nuts. But that would get the sand in his mangina and get you in trouble with management.
Seriously, ask Pete why he believes you torture and kill people. He's likely projecting his fear of guns on you. If confronted with his belief that you're a serial killer he'll see how silly it is. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:20:51 PM EDT
[#33]
Go to a jeweler and hae a bullet engraved with your managers name on it.
Just kidding Two cannibals eating a clown "Hey does this taste funny to you?" |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:25:46 PM EDT
[#34]
You might tell Pete that just because all males in the U.K. seem to be emasculated at birth does not mean the "colonies" are going to follow suit. Some of still prefer to enjoy our manhood over here.
Lifesaver |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:27:28 PM EDT
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One cannibal is puking his guts out after eating. The other asks the first if the food was bad. The first one heaves again and says, "No, it was great! You just can't keep a good man down." 
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:31:48 PM EDT
[#36]
You have to fire back at them. Report that guy who mentioned btk to HR for inappropriate comments.
Let's look at this... A coworker expressed a concern about her husband's proposed activity--shooting with his friends. You, having knowledge of such activity, and compared to the rest of the office, a degree of expertise, tried to put her fears to rest. Pete the Sheep, ridiculing your ownership of firearms, which is enjoyed by more than 50% of the households in this country, also made a very slanderous and hurtful comment about you, comparing you to a serial killer. You are the injured party here, and HR should certainly be having a serious talk with Pete. Pete should do nothingless than a public apology. And perhaps Pete's immigration status should be looked into? |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:36:19 PM EDT
[#37]
OK, so color me the stupid on on this thread but
what is BTK? |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:44:10 PM EDT
[#38]
www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/special_packages/btk/ 
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:51:09 PM EDT
[#39]
Somebody'd get their ass kicked for saying some stupid shit like "you're like BTK" around here...
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:54:42 PM EDT
[#40]
The BTK remark was uncalled for and was without a doubt creating a hostile environment, since he has publicly grouped you with killers.
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:54:50 PM EDT
[#41]
offer to take the lady's husband shooting with you, and anyone who seems responsible and openminded, you gotta chip that wall of ignorance down brick by brick.
and if they wanna know about a hostile work environment, they should hear how the military talks amongst ourselves. About as foul mouthed as it gets.
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:55:21 PM EDT
[#42]
He was an 87 year old clown. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 12:56:25 PM EDT
[#43]
Like others have said, you need document-document-document and then have a talk with Pete's boss and/or HR. Demand a public apology.
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Posted: 4/14/2006 1:02:14 PM EDT
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You may have handled it better then you think. I suggest letting it go. If it comes up again just restate your companies guidelines on firearms and your commitment to keeping them. You owe them nothing else.
If you want to go farther then with Pete you might ask what part civilian ownership of firearms played in the fact we are Americans and not still British subjects? Keep in mind some bosses cannot stand to be upstaged in front of the people who work for them and by winning you may lose. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 1:02:29 PM EDT
[#45]
No shit, that is LIBEL. or maybe SLANDER, but either way it is wrong. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 1:02:32 PM EDT
[#46]
Better yet, say good ole Pete made "unwanted sexual advances".
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Posted: 4/14/2006 1:02:43 PM EDT
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Not just a killer, but a murdering, torturing psychopath. I can take a ribbing about owning guns, but the S would have immediately HTF if someone had tried to compare me to someone like that. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 1:06:00 PM EDT
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No one at work knows I have have firearms, it's none of their business, and even when I hear a couple guys talking guns in the hallway, I don't participate in the discussion.
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Posted: 4/14/2006 1:15:16 PM EDT
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Dang! I'd report it to HR as well, but with the comment that this is not so big of a problem as things stand now, but that you feel the need to clear the air, as the recent incident is "setting up" a hostile work environment if not immediately addressed.
To say that it already IS a hostile environment puts the burden of proof on you to establish that your welbeing has been impacted. He didn't directly "call" you a psychopathic murderer, just that you "remind" him of one. The wuss could say that 'Well, BTK DID have firearms, and he WAS orderly and quiet' and that is the sum total of the resemblence. It would seem wierd to me to work someplace that wasn't firearms friendly. In my neck of the woods we all take guns for granted just like any other mechanical tools or toys. |
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Posted: 4/14/2006 1:23:05 PM EDT
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+1. That crosses a line, and I'd not be inclined to let that go. He'd appologise or I'd find new employment. |
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