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Posted: 4/9/2006 7:09:40 PM EDT
Just saw on the news a Secret Service guy with what appeared to be a P90.
That's what they use? |
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Well of course. It shoots those armor piercing, nun and kitten killing bullets. What else would they use?
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They use them because they are proven reliable.
dont believe me, just watch one episode of Stargate. They still use them in the future. |
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yep |
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A friend of a friend is SS. I had dinner at his house in 03 and asked him what they use and he said they're about to get P90s.
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yup...video here www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=453626 you can see the two guys in black w/ P-90s
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That is cool. The video is all bouncy, that sucks. 50 rounds in a tight little package. |
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Did you see the dog bite the sleeve of the agent guarding the perp while the other one cuffed him????
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Yeah I saw that and you can tell the dog knew he did something wrong as soon as he did it. |
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Yeah |
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Too bad we civilians can only get 30-rounders, apparently. |
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mag is the same followers are diffrent the last few guys that tried to run into the white house have been greeted with P90s seems like thay have had them for a few years |
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eh? I thought there were 50 rounders available. |
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Spectre SMG. 9mm/,40 S&W/.45ACP, 50-rnd mags that aren't ridiculously huge, top-folding stock that doesn't obscure the sights, forces air through the chamber and barrel to cool them down (allowing you to use a higher rate of fire/more ammo than normal), quieter than most SMG's when using a suppressor, superior ergonomics to the MP5 and P90 (I'm guessing on the latter since it looks pretty awkward unless you hold it just right), only double-action SMG in the world, 6.4lb, 850 rounds a minute. Oh, and it has a fold-down forward grip too. So it has the P90 beat on weight, accessories, ergonomics, and the ability for prolonged fire. It equals the P90 in the number of rounds it can hold. It uses ammo used by the vast majority of militaries and police forces in the world, that have proven lethality. Therefore, Specre has the P90 beat. |
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Apparently, they only sell the 50-rounders to the po-po and the .gov. Civilian version is 30. Now, if it's just the followers (as mentioned above) then maybe there are "options". |
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I can get 50s. |
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How much does a civilian P-90 go for (roughly) anyway? I suddenly find myself being interested, whereas for the longest time I haven't been. |
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yeah, but you can get a shrike too, so what does this mean for everyone else? |
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Honestly I don't recall. |
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Now, now. Be nice. |
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But stargate is supposed to take place in present time? |
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Hell, man! They're so good, even the Colonial Fleet uses them!
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LOL, took you long enough. I thought we had more stargaters here. |
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SITES is out of business since '98. How many were produced? Is anyone producing (or proposing producing) these currently? |
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The Federal Protective Service (FPS) uses P90's also. I've always thought they look like the type of gun that Trekkies and Dungeons and Dragons geeks would be attracted to.
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OK I Sowwy |
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why? are they trying to ice pick intruders to death? or is the uber tactical rimfire performance round just to make things sporting?
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There was a rumor that SG1 was going to start using H&K MP7 and G36s (and I think they did in an episode or 2) it had something to do with backstage contract dealings(Guess H&K wanted to do some advertising), but it does not look like the deal actually happend, they are still using P90s and M4. BTW if you think the 5.7x28 is a small round. Check out the MP7 4.6x30 |
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Dunno how many were produced, but they'd been making them continuously since 1984 and approximately 2,000 semi-automatic pistol versions were imported into the US before they were banned from import in 1994. |
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Armor piercing ammunition and .22 caliber rounds tend to just penetrate and not do immediately fatal damage. Which would you rather take into a fight, a .22 Hornet or a .45? |
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I bought 4 50 rounders w/o a problem |
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The secret service is using the SS190 round. In every shooting with the SS190 I can find, it's been 1 shot stops. Add in that it penetrates IIIA armor and some IV, and you've got a winable package for concealable protection duty. |
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SS190 is not a .22 hornet. Your statement is like saying 5.56 is like being shot with a .22 hornet. |
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Caption Reads: "I wonder what the wife is making for dinner tonight." |
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I guess they wanted a short, large capacity, glorified .22Mag.
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Isn't that what an M4 is? |
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Civilian versions go for about 1700 for the long barrel, 2000 for the SBR.
The green they used doesn't really look that bad. |
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Damn. That guy's armed to the teeth! TWO KNIVES in addition to everything else? |
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i think i see 3...... though i will accept the fact that they need highcaps smgs.... they dont need to just stop lone nuts, may need to stop mass crowd assaults |
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And his hands in his pockets. Not too quick response if you ask me. |
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Oh, hey! I'm not questioning the firepower. I just found it odd that the guy would have two, perhaps even three DAGGERS in ready-to-grab positions. As for hands in the pockets, I'll bet the Prez wasn't anywhere near there at the time. USSS isn't in the business of being sloppy, at least not THAT sloppy. |
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I'm counting 2 so far, on top of the fifty rounds in the P90, plus the twelve rounds in the .357, before he has to reach for a knife. Pretty hard core to me. I really am curious as to what type of situation dictates the carrying of two or three knives in addition to all the other stuff, but then again,who am I to question those guys? They've been doing good at what they do. |
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He's packing at least two extra mags for the P90, and I think it's more like 4. 250 rounds, or just over 8 AR Mags worth. Not bad.
I don't know what caliber that sidearm might be, but I'm sure he's packing 2-3 extra mags. Two knives, and maybe an asp. Oh, and the super-tactical ballpoint pen. Now imagine several dozen more like him, with even more firepower. You'd have to be nuts to try an attempt on The Man. |
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Da BeAmZ |
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