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Posted: 4/6/2006 10:19:02 PM EDT
Do you plan to assemble on the green ? Muster the Minute Men ? Any special plans at all for patriots day ? Almost a year and a half later
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War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. -- John Stuart Mill |
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I have stood at the exact spot at Lexington Green where the Minutemen and Capt Parker faced the Redcoats! Quite an awesome feeling. I have stood at Parkers revenge where Capt John Parker waited for the Redcoats to return from Concord. There was a Granite boulder on top of that small hill where a Minuteman must have taken cover and fired at the enemy. If you ever get to Boston take the short trip to the Battle Trail and walk it!!!!!
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Does anyone think any current U.S. politician gives a DAMN about " sacred honor"? Or are they more interested in selling their vote to the highest bidder? I wonder what the founding fathers would say about politics in 2006? |
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I have the day off (it's a state holiday in Mass. and being observed on April 17th).
Going to a Sox game and then maybe watch part of the Boston marathon from a bar stool with a glass of Sam Adams |
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Not to attempt to take anything away from the Patriots of April 19th, but they were johnny-come-latelies.
Rhode Island had begun the war much earlier with the attack on, and burning of HMS Gaspee. "The Gaspee Affair is deserving of commemoration. In the war of independence ---- it was the first planned use of force, in all the American colonies, and the first deliberate attack against the English." A little history:www.warwickri.gov/gaspee.htm The flagship of the the Rhode Island Navy, the Katy, was renamed the Providence , and while in continental service, was eventually captained by none other than John Paul Jones. My ancestor, Michael Moulton sailed on that vessel while in the Continental Marines, and participated in the raid on Nassau. |
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Interesting. However, your cite concerns a fight between the "Regulators", a group of dissatisfied citizens and Colonial Militia of their own Colony, commanded by their own Colonial Officers. The Gaspee was a vessel of the Royal Navy, sent to RI to enforce the edicts of the Crown. Bit of a difference. |
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Not really, the colonist were forced to take loyalty oaths or die, these same dynamics are in effect today, we are NOT anti-government we are against criminals abusing the powers of states to commit criminal acts of violence against we the people. People do not really care what the form of government is as long as it works, the problem is there is no rule of law and anarchy & chaos reigns in the courts.
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I've never been forced to take a "loyalty oath". Have you? Has anyone else?
Expand on both parts of this sentence. I can easily think of broad exceptions to both your clauses.
Quoting phrases uttered by famous people in the past is all well and good. Perhaps your own thoughts might prove to be more enlightening for the rest of us. And, speaking of quotes, would you be so kind as to attribute the quotes that you pass along? |
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Spartacus, thank you for your post.
I will send it through the rounds of e-mail on April, 19. Thanks Again! |
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Not original from me; courtesy of Revolutionary War Veteran's Association |
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Of course they call "Patriots Day" Sept 11th now. When President Bush did that it really pissed me off. I have wanted to write this for a long time. Patriots Day has always been and should always be April 19th. The morning Paul Revere rode and we really began the fight for Independance.
Nothing taken away from those who were killed September 11th 200, but we already had a "Patriots Day". They could call it something else and that would be fine with me. Because people started smoking as much marijuana as they could on that day. Because it is around Hitler's birthday. Because the Oklahoma City bombing occurred around on that date, people began associating that date with radical white nut jobs. I say, "Fuck that!" Patriots day should be April 19th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Another thing that has been bothering me for 4 1/2 years is this. Every time someone says, "nine eleven" in reference to the terrorist attacks on our Nation September 11th, 2001 it makes me angry. Are Americans so lazy thet they have to just say 9-11? To me that cheapens the entire incident and makes me think people do not really care. I hear President Bush say 9-11 and it drives me fucking nuts! Even if you say "September 11th" that is not good enough for me. We have had four other September 11ths since 2001. Please if you are talking about the day our Nation was attacked say "September 11th, 2001", not 9 11 and certainly not 9 1 1. Does anyone else feal it cheapens the entire incident? I know there are are many on this board and in this Country like me who were very patriotic long before the hijackers crashed planes into our Pentagon, World Trade Centers and the field in Pennsylvania. I truly think it is disrespectful to those who died to cut it so short as to say 9 11. It was September 11th, 2001. |
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And me! |
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Since you asked, I once worked for a State University which required all employees to sign a loyalty oath. We weren't forced... unless you consider being terminated from your job force There wasn't anything in the oath I objected to so I didn't have any problem signing it. |
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An excellent book on Lexington and Concord is Paul Revere's Ride: by David Hackett Fischer
I'm sure there are lots of other books but this one was suggested a few years ago on Arf and it is definately an excellent book. |
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Nice to hear from you brother. |
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