Posted: 4/6/2006 8:18:02 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Quoted: Break the rules, prepare to lose.
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What rule did he break?
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Driving an ATV in the park. Didn't you read the article? It was against the rules. But that's not the rule that got him shot, of course. He got shot for being a drunken idiot who felt like fighting with "Da Man":
www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-5/1143956792260550.xml&coll=1 ATV rider shot in clash with park officers Sunday, April 02, 2006 BY RALPH R. ORTEGA AND JOE RYAN Star-Ledger Staff
A man was shot twice in the leg by a state park officer in Bergen County yesterday during a clash between authorities and all-terrain vehicle riders, officials said.
The afternoon altercation broke out in the woods of Ringwood State Park in Mahwah, after three conservation officers confronted a group of people riding ATVs, which are prohibited in the park, according to state Department of Environmental Protection officials.
The confrontation led to a scuffle and "one of our officers did eventually shoot one of the riders in the leg twice," DEP Commissioner Lisa Jackson said last night.
Fellow ATV riders identified the victim as Emil Mann, a 43-year-old Monroe, N.Y., resident. He was in stable condition last night at Hackensack University Medical Center, according to a hospital spokeswoman.
Two officers were also hurt in the melee, said Jose Fernandez, director of the state Division of Parks and Forestry.
Lt. Kelly Gottheiner was treated for a head injury at Good Samaritan Hospital in Suffern, N.Y., after being bumped by an ATV's handlebar, officials said.
An unidentified male officer was also at Good Samaritan last night after being bitten by an ATV rider, Fernandez said. Officials did not identify the officer who fired the shots.
Ringwood State Park is a 4,000-acre preserve amid the rocky, wooded hills of northern Bergen and Passaic counties, about 20 miles northwest of the George Washington Bridge.
Mann is among a group of friends and relatives who for years have ridden four-wheel all-terrain vehicles through the park on weekends, according to Tom Mann, who identified himself as the victim's second cousin.
"We go back there and have a few beers and relax," Tom Mann said. "The park rangers have always been giving us a hard time." Alcohol and ATVs are illegal in state parks, said Elaine Makatura, a DEP spokeswoman.
The Manns are a large, tight-knit family residing in Mahwah and the surrounding towns, according to friends and neighbors who gathered last night outside the local police station. Emil Mann is a father of three and works for the Ramapo Roads Department, they said. He rode into forest yesterday along with about 11 others, said William Mann, 43, of Monroe.
"We were just doing our normal thing, riding and cooking out," William Mann said. "The cowards got out of hand. They shot an unarmed man."
William Mann disputed whether the riders were on state park land, saying there were no signs marking the park border.
ATV riders have clashed before with conservation officers.
In 2003, an officer's leg was shattered when an ATV rider he was pursuing in Gloucester County ran him over, according to the DEP./
In the past three years, conservation officers have issued more than 1,500 summonses for illegal ATV riding on state-owned land, according to the DEP.
Jackson, the DEP commissioner, said there have been calls for legislation to crack down on ATV riders.
"This will definitely renew those calls," she said.
Residents gathered last night outside an apartment complex near the clash and spoke angrily of the shooting.
"This is ridiculous," said Laurie Ringwood, 45, who lives nearby. "These guys never bother anybody. They go in there. They cook out, and that's it. They have been doing it for years."
Julie Van Dunk, 44, of Hillburn, N.Y. is a friend of Mann and said she was "just heartbroken."
"We grew up in those woods riding and fishing," she said. "It's sad that it comes to this."
Staff writers Alexander Lane and Kathleen G. Sutcliffe contributed to this report.
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It may just be me, but common sense dictates that if you scuffle with armed, commissioned law enforcement officers, you run the risk of getting shot. So, to recap my original posting, If: 1) you're feeling froggy 2) you think you're in the right 3) you think it's worth it 4) then by all means "scuffle", but be prepared to die. I don't know about New Jersey, but here in SW Missouri, conservation agents are always outnumbered, usually outgunned and often in the middle of nowhere when they contact citizens. So, they rely on their outstanding personality, people skills, charisma and professionalism to live to see retirement, but they also _do_not_ put up with any bullshit whatsoever. So, to recap the gist of the article: 1) Drunken Idiots (D.I) illegally tearing up the woods 2) Officers execute their duty to enforce the law, leading to 3) The use of an ATV as a weapon against at least one officer, and 4) D.I. Decide to engage in fisticuffs with officers 5) One D.I. gets shot. I have a feeling that there will be fewer drunken idiots tearing up the woods in the near future, and [martha stewart voice] that's a good thing[/martha stewart voice]
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