Dumbasses.




Jean-Louis Doublet

The famous Winchester rifle glorified in American Westerns may have fired its last shot as a plant where it had been manufactured since 1866 closed its doors last week.

One hundred eighty-six employees of the United States Repeating Arms Company plant located in New Haven, Connecticut, were thanked for their work on Friday, two days after the facility stopped all manufacturing activity, said Catherine Sullivan-DeCarlo, a spokesperson for the city government.

She told Agene France-Presse that the mayor's office has been searching for an investor, who would take over the plant, but has to overcome several obstacles on the way to achieving this goal.

US Repeating Arms Company and its New Haven plant belong to Belgian manufacturer Herstal, which has purchased from US firm Olin the right to use the famous brand name.

"Herstal owns US Repeating Arms and Olin owns the license to the Winchester name so they own the brand name," Sullivan-DeCarlo said.

"We've been talking to different gun manufacturers, and at the same time the mayor has been talking to Olin about possibly keeping the name Winchester here for whoever comes in the factory," she continued.

"Because otherwise, our fear is that the Winchester name will end up overseas."

That would be a rough turn for the celebrated lever-action 1873 gun that made rapid reloading and fire possible and helped conquer the West.

It was Oliver Fisher Winchester, who in 1853 founded New Haven Arms Company, which in 1866 became known as Winchester Arms Company.

The Winchester rifle was in fact based on the Henry rifle that was used during the Civil War.

Pioneers heading West adopted the rifle, and near-mythical personalities like Buffalo Bill made it their weapon of choice.

Western movies and television series had helped maintain the gun's celebrity status long into the 20th century.

Josh Randall, a character in the miniseries Wanted: Dead or Alive played by actor Steve McQueen, used one of these gun with a sawed-off barrel.

James Stewart used the 1873 model in Winchester 73.

The rifle had been modified several times and was used by US troops during World War II.
To keep the plant in New Haven, the city government would like to be able to offer a new investor the possibility of keeping the Winchester trademark and is negotiating this option with Olin.

"We have asked that Herstal not renew the Winchester license now, or for a term of not less than 10 years," New Haven Mayor John DeStefano told the City Council in mid-March.

There is concern that Herstal will keep the brand name to manufacture the rifle at its other plants outside the United States. It is already happening with several other Winchester rifles, but they are not based on the 1894 model, a derivative of the 1873 model. A total of six million such rifles have been manufactured since the end of the 19th century.

If this proposal is not acceptable, the mayor is offering to have Herstal transfer its interest in the facility, the inventory and the intellectual property to the city for a symbolic amount of money in exchange for a waiver of the financial obligations owed to the city and the union.

"If Herstal is willing to do this, it would help the city move ahead smoothly in finding a new user for the site," DeStefano said.

"We have several interested companies."

"Winchester has operated in New Haven for 140 years, and is an American icon," added the mayor, fully aware of the fact that if the eventual new owner is not allowed to used the name Winchester, the property would not pack the same bang for the buck. - Sapa-AFP

In addition I'm sure many did end up in non conventional military roles.  Beyond that Winchester certainly made Garands.

Quoted: Winchester got a Military contract in WWII for the mod. 94 It was used in the US for guard duty, Possibly out West.

Not sure about that.  I'm sure a few got used in unconvential roles.  However none were procured through normal channels and none were ever even listed as "substitute standard".  

Quoted: Quoted: what would the french know about fighting WWII? they were out of the game in the first quarter This it totally untrue. The French did a fair amount of fighting in World War 2. Just happened to be on the German side. See: Operation Torch, and the Naval engagements related to it.

In all fairness they did fight a lot more on the allied side.  Tunisa.  Italy.  Normandy. Southern France and a little in Germany.  However they did it will OUR equipment and as Patton said.
"I'd rather have a German division in front of me rather than a French one behind me."  

Quoted: I'm betting that the guy thinks that Win = lever gun and discovered that there were umpteen million Winchesters used in WWII, all of which were in actuality either M1s (?) or shotguns (for sure).

Regardless, he is still un bête francais.

Quoted: The Frenchman is right. The Winchester Garand is no longer being produced. It would be cool to have a Winchester Garand.

But he was talking about lever actions.

After doing some in depth research in my references.

I found the US forest Service had a contract for .30 .30 Winchester M94's during WWII.

They even had the orndance bomb on them.  I WANT ONE!!

But the USFS is not the military.