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Posted: 3/29/2006 8:32:26 AM EDT
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Guess he wont be doing THAT again.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 8:35:00 AM EDT
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 Im betting a phone call from the cops asking him to take the pictures off his site would have worked. A possible 20 years? |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 8:37:00 AM EDT
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That is pretty stupid.
With enough stupidity to go around. Sounds more like some 16 year olds parent is pissed, and the DA is feeling the heat from the parents |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 8:37:31 AM EDT
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Child pr0n is one of those things that there has to be some pretty firm lines such as saying it includes anyone under 18. HOWEVER, in order to prevent gross miscarriages of justice the prosecutors must exercise discretion. The prosecutor in this case has not done so, likely because he wants to look good for a later political campaign. The kid should be punished, but a child pr0n charge is going to ruin his life. Might as well shoot him in the head.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 8:37:33 AM EDT
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Isn't there a statue that defines porn as being imaged 'designed soley for sexual gratification'...? Or words to that effect?
If he posted them as a joke, not as jerking material, it should be easily defended. TRG |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 8:41:58 AM EDT
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Certainly not criminally. 
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Posted: 3/29/2006 8:42:54 AM EDT
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I'm sure one of his future cell mates will take care of that. Or at least shoot him in the face....or on the face... or something..... 
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:05:20 AM EDT
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Of course, what should happen and what actually happens frequently bear no resemblance to one another. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:08:54 AM EDT
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For what? What harm or criminal intent was there? This cas is almost as sad as the girl who was chraged for taking pics of herself. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:09:44 AM EDT
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Good job catching the real criminals.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:11:28 AM EDT
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To clarify, by punished I mean some kind of slap on the wrist, and something that doesn't put him on the sex offender registry. Give him a few hours of community service and send him on his merry way.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:12:13 AM EDT
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Too damn bad.
Boo-hoo-hoo. Reckon this will go on his 'permanent record'?  Eric The(LetJusticeBeServed)Hun 
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:15:34 AM EDT
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I think your sense of justice is broken today. 
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:25:14 AM EDT
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And I think if you gaze into the poon long enough, the poon will gaze into you. Nope. This little smarty pants forgot that he lives in a world of - get this - rules! Rules made by sober, sensible, clear-thinking adults. Not weenies who think it's 'cool' to post pics of their buds copulating on the Internet. Thankfully. Eric The(TrueNietzschean)Hun
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:29:49 AM EDT
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I think that he should be punished. Even at that age I knew doing things like that was wrong, so I dont have much sympathy for him. That does not mean that I didnt break the law at that age but an MIP is a lot less severe than CHild Porn.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:32:12 AM EDT
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Were the 17yo boy and 16yo girl okay with being posted on the internet? If they are okay with it then the charges should be reduced to something minor. If he did it without their permission then prosecute him to the full extent of the law.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:34:40 AM EDT
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You would be the last person I would expect to blindly follow the rules. Please explain to me how 20 years in prison is justified based upon the "harm" the boy inflicted upon the community. No underage girl was recruited for the act, no profit was made. He took a picture of a bunch of dumbasses, and inadvertantly violated a statute, which was designed by sober, sensible, clear-thinking adults to deal with pedophiles who buy children off the black market in order that they may murder their souls for profit. Of necessity, the law is written broadly, and depends upon sober, sensible, clear-thinking adults to enforce it in a just manner. Unfortunately, such individuals are often in short supply in the DA's office. PS. I'm no Nietzchean, and I know you aren't either. I simply found that quote to contain a lot of wisdom. 
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:35:53 AM EDT
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Life is hard. It's even harder when you are stupid. Ryan Zylstra is a perfect case study.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:38:35 AM EDT
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+1 |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:41:55 AM EDT
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I friend of a friend 18 yo told me that some high school girls made a tape for him to show that they were interested in him. I think everyone involved was 15 or 16. I warned him that he should destroy that tape before he got in trouble.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:47:03 AM EDT
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He's not going to get 20 years even if convicted on all counts. Anyone with any experiance in the criminal justice system knows that. He will get 3 years probation, max. the terms of that probation should include: Date no underaged girls, do not possess or consume alcoholic beverages or illegal drugs, Do not own, possess or use a computer or digital camera or maintain an online/internet account. After 3 yrs with no new arrests consider him rehabilitated. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:50:23 AM EDT
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How far do you think he'll go in life with "child pornographer" attached to him for the rest of his life? |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:50:48 AM EDT
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This reminds me of the 18 y.o. girl who got busted for posting pics of herself... taken by herself when she was 16.
Maybe that's an urban legend, but I guess it could happen. So are the going to bust everybody else for statutory rape? |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:52:49 AM EDT
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Who is the victim?
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:54:01 AM EDT
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the kind of guy who secretly films minors having sex then posts it online wasnt going to go very far in life anyway. This guy was predestined for a "you want fries with that?" or "welcome to walmart" career long before he got caught. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:54:13 AM EDT
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Gee, you're poll's not biased or anything, is it?
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:54:14 AM EDT
[#27]
+ sex offender for life 
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:54:28 AM EDT
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Couldn't we just cane the bastard in public and be done with it.
This should not be a life destroying event. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:55:59 AM EDT
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Jane Doe-16yo minor child. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:57:12 AM EDT
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The girl's parents who are embarrased their child was photographed having sex.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:57:18 AM EDT
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Nice attitude there. Yep. Assume the worst. No possibility that an otherwise intelligent and productive person would fuck-up like this. Might as well run him through the system and fuck him for life, after all, he was destined to deserve it at some point. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:58:21 AM EDT
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Ahh Calvinism. 
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Posted: 3/29/2006 9:58:31 AM EDT
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If he's lucky, he'll end up being another one of those "sex offenders" that everyone is so deathly afraid of. I guess it's ok to fuck over guys like this as long as it punishes the rapists and child molesters. Right? Punish a few not-so-bad people to get to the bad people. Sounds like it's worth it to me!
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:04:05 AM EDT
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A "victim" only by the most technical application of the law. The irony, of course, is that morally she is the more guilty party, having committed fornication of her own free will. A prank picture of someone else fornicating does not even come close by comparison. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:09:15 AM EDT
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Quoted:
I follow only righteous laws...not unrighteous ones. And I am the sole judge, and quite likely the soul defendant, of what is righteous and what is not.
He won't get 20 years for his crime....nothing like that. Hell, I doubt this goes much further than a plea bargain to a misdemeanor with probation. But 'the Law is a Harsh Mistress.' (And she doesn't appreciate folks looking under her skirt.)
What of my derivation of that quote? Was it not pithy? Eric The(Pithy)Hun
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:09:49 AM EDT
[#36]
I am thinking she is not a victim.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:12:25 AM EDT
[#37]
I'm afraid that I may have to agree with happycynic here. In Our Brave New World, this snappy little fellow may well be King. Eric The(HeHasTheMoralsToBeAGreat
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:14:04 AM EDT
[#38]
Correct. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:15:03 AM EDT
[#39]
That would be acceptable, so long as he doesn't get on some stupid sex offender registry.
Very pithy.
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:17:35 AM EDT
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Anyone who is videotaped, without their consent, having sex with their significant other and then the video/pics are posted on the internet has been victimized. Because she's 16yo she doesnt have a right to privacy? |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:18:46 AM EDT
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I didnt have the stomach to read this whole thread but to relate a story:
My wife is a children and youth social worker for our county. She has one case where the girls mother sort of pimped her out to some sleaze bag taning salon owner for rent and cars etc. Anyway during the course of the investigation my wife found a myspace site for the girl that was apparently done by one of her high school enemies. Had plenty of disgusting pics of the girl in the act with other teens. Wonderful stuff. I truly fear for kids these days. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:22:41 AM EDT
[#42]
Thank you, thweetheart.  Eric The(Lithping)Hun
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:33:00 AM EDT
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Ummm shes having sex at a party. She is not at home in her bed with her Signifigant Other She is boinking some dude at the party. She deserves to be humiliated. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:39:45 AM EDT
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I think our age of consent laws and "child porn" laws are fucked up to a degree.
Its legal in plenty of states to have sex with a 16 or 17 year old. Yet if you have sexual pictures of said 16 or 17 year old then its child porn, and you might be considered a sex offender or something. Thats some fucked up shit. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:46:48 AM EDT
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She was having sex in someone else's home, at a New Years Eve party. I don't think privacy was terribly high on her list of concerns. CO |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 11:02:50 AM EDT
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16 year olds are not adults, they do not get to decide if they are victims or not, society does. If someone was posting porn of my 16year old on the web I would most certainly want them prosecuted and I can't believe that you (the persons defending this guy) wouldn't. We have a society of laws and this kid broke one, one that I happen to strongly agree with. (and I am pro porn in general, consenting adults and all)
That being said this appears o be a gross waste of effort...I'm sure there are some meth labs or crack houses that could stand to be raided in Michigan. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 11:10:53 AM EDT
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O.k. Put the shoe on the other foot. What if your 17 year old son had taken the pictures? Would you want him to be labled as a "child pornographer" for life, and possibly spend some time in jail as well, because he took a picture of a little whore who was banging her boyfriend in somebody else's house? |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 11:21:19 AM EDT
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Apparently, my viking friend, child porn is not acceptable anytime, anywhere....unless it's a 17 year old that was just playing around. How is it that some people do not understand that a line must be made, and CANNOT BE CROSSED, otherwise the line means nothing. |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 11:23:21 AM EDT
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Old enough to legally fuck with an adult in some states, but you dont think they are old enough to have nude pictures taken of them? |
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Posted: 3/29/2006 11:24:54 AM EDT
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I would get him a lawyer and hope for the best. (Mostly charged as a juvenile) But if my son broke the law I would want him to feel the weight of justice. You make the same argument as the people who's teenagers kill in drunk driving accidents make. Oh and your question is pointlessly inflamitory and slanted....was this girl charging money for the sex? If not she's not a "whore." |
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