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Posted: 3/28/2006 4:55:27 PM EDT
Where can I find good info on the laws about Militias, as in starting and orginizing one?
I would like to start up a militia here to help out with Minutemen Militia and help locate and inform where Illegals are at. If the new law passes making it a Felony, it would be nice to help out (actually do something) and help stop criminals. |
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well, first paragraph of 1.1 rules me out. Glad to see that the militia is for all of our rights except for freedom of (or from if we choose) reigion. |
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Very old but still useful info
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So a generic word that means different things to different people is cause enough not to support the security of a free state ? Doesn't take much to discourage you does it ? |
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I notice the recruiting section has nothing listed for the Northwest.....
Hiya Strat! |
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I support the cause, i agree with what they are all about, but i refuse to be a part of an organization who automatically assumes that its members are christian, or believe in god |
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a local guy from my hometown went to arizona last summer to help with the minuteman ordeal, he said it was a disgrace, you couldnt look at the illegals wrong, touch them, talk to them or anything, all you could do was call the police. He said there were lawyers waiting for anyone who messed with them and they would get prosecuted. How could someone w/o citizenship prosecute an american citizen....???
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Then why would you claim to be an American? The founding fathers were Christian and believed in God. |
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that's fine, and i never said i have any problem serving side by side with christians, but the founding fathers realized the value of keeping religion out of your organization and it has served our country well for 230 years. |
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Don't use U.S. currency then because it has IN GOD WE TRUST on it. |
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I consider myself christian and I still have to at that comment. What you are saying is that if you aren't christian, you aren't American? Harumph |
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Really? Thats funny because.... Thomas Jeferson wrote
John Adams wrote...
Abraham Lincoln, although not a founding father, wrote...
Yes these men were christian, but dont be so naive and ignorant to think our country was only founded on christian principals. There was much more to it then that. |
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thanks! i needed some backup on that stuff |
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The NMS was adopted by a super majority vote, the majority wanted the word God so it was included, but it makes NO demands as to faith.
The NMS is a guide line for every American in what ever state they live in to work together without being centralized. |
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The militia is every able-bodied man willing to come together with other able-bodied men for the common defense.
Organized militia COMPANIES are what have been demonized in the past 20 years or so. The militia in the first sense of the word was deliberately discouraged by the Federal government in the 1910s or so with the Dick Act. eta: We now have what many of our founders feared: a select militia under the ultimate authority and command of the Federal Government. |
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And they've been dicks ever since. |
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well, as we all know, ever since 1910, the gov't has been completely competent and capable of handling the country's affairs and does not need civilians to keep it in check |
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Want to be part of a militia company? Well, first off gotta meet the 300lb minimum. Then you need some gunshow surplus BDU's and an SKS. (Don't forget the $8.99 Chinese scope)
It'll really help if you are an alcoholic or socially inadequate BTW: Don't forget the colonel insignia on those BDU's (they look like little birdies) |
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The government used to accept volunteer regiments. Thats the closest analogy I can make to these modern day militia companies. Heck, wasn't the Rough Riders under T.R. a volunteer regiment? And that was for the Spanish American war for Pete's sake! |
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if you meet those requirements, do they tell you the secret jerky recipie? |
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Don't know, but they do have a thing for stealing lunchmeat. |
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Turns me off pretty quickly as well. I wish I could find a decent "shooting/camping" club around here but in my experience most are all about the talk and not about the real purpose. |
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Start your own, keep it small, 4 men seems to work best add together as many 4 man teams as you wish for field training exercises or actual emergencies. This system has been used succesfully for years, it has not grown big because the threat was just not that serious yet, but now as America gets closer to illegal alien insurgency people are seeing the necessity to prepare for the clear and present danger. |
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Can you give examples where |
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Because corrupt judges make up the law as they see fit. Most of the time to fit their socialistic corrupt agenda. |
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Stratiotes made a staement in the Wa home town forum about the CDA, ID militia going into LA during the Rodney King Riots and repelling the rioters from the white neighborhoods. (LMFAO). I'm sure Strat can give you lots of other examples. And they would be facts too, beacsue he heard it from a militia dude who heard it from another milita dude that some militia dudes in the NW or Texas kept the UN from invading from Canada or Mexico........ You get my point. |
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The law regarding the Militia is United States Code..USC Title 10, Section 311.
Do a search. |
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Which many of us have sworn an oath to enforce in front of witnesses and notorized and recorded, and as long as the constitution is used for the good of the people, all is well but the people are the judge of that ! If a pattern developes that the constitution no longer serves the people as intended it is their right to alter or abolish it, measured against the rights of the individual by the Bill of Rights. At present the organized militia, U.S. armed services have totally failed at enforcing the bill of rights. That is the very reason for the second amendment. |
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How about an Arfcom militia? Or is that a survival forum question?
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I could help you out a great deal being I belong to a unit here in WV myself
Some links to help you understand the organization and concept Indiiana Militia 3rd Continental Congress Fort Liberty A Well Regulated Militia Fort liberty |
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I am all for the Militia. Seems a lot of people buy in to the anti-militia prapoganda the
media spews. I was pointing to the actual law that says we are all militia, except for a few. People who are racist, advocate illeagle activities and such are not welcome in any groups that I have heard of. People who want to defend their families, Communities, and neighborhoods is what the Militia is about. |
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That is because we now have a "select" militia rather than the "whole-body" militia the founders like RH Lee and TJ insisted on. |
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And I for one would be standing....across from you taking your ass out if you ever raised arms against this country. We are so far from being anything like it was back then its not even funny. I love how we enjoy the most freedoms then anyone and we are the most successfull/richest country in the world yet we have fools who go around talking about rebelling. |
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Tyrants only are rebels the people can not rebel, they have a right and a duty to enforce the law and only the people are the judge of that.
States become corrupt over time, the just use of force is entirely necessary to reign in despotic states. |
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The Survival Forum is not a "militia" and has no plans to become one. They are people who plan for natural disasters and civil unrest. |
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Having met a whole lot of the "militia" types in the course of my normal job, I have found that in most cases the following is true:
The are either gear queers who just want an excuse to buy all kinds of high speed gear or morons with SKS's and Hi-point pistols. No middle ground. Thier self appointed "leaders" (the ones who actually buy and wear military rank crack me up) are usually egotistical or have dellusions of grandeur. They lack competent leadership skills, and if they ever had to actually plan, react, and conduct a real military operation would not have a clue. They have tunnel vision and see anything that bolsters a point they have as gospel while dismissing anything contrary as propaganda or whatever, and will distort anything to serve thier needs. I know one was in my store one Monday with all kinds of tales of how Special Forces were training UN troops at a local boy scout camp and how they had watched them all weekend. He was sure thats what it was, and didn't have an answer when I told him that was odd since my USAR unit was there helping the Boy Scouts build a trail and we were the only ones around, no SF, no UN troops, not training at all like he was describing. I have met maybe 3 that I would trust to back me up in a serious situation. Out of hundreds if not thousands. YMMV, I am sure there are some that keep thier mouths shut so you never know who they are, but among the vocal ones this is almost always true. |
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Yeah what about for Non-Cattle/Flock????? |
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The National Militia Standards are written by active militia, the reps work all the way from small neighborhoods to national, the western reps travel to the east coast and sometimes the east coats travels to the west for strategy meetings and field training exercises, as stated earlier the word God was used by super majority vote, it does not define any particular faith or demand any action, so if the excuse makers want to seize on that one word and use it as a excuse to not do anything they are free to do so. |
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To not do anything? What is there to do? |
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I have heard that some militia groups do not use the word "militia" to describe themselves, so as not to attract undue attention to their activities. For example, the "_____ County Corps" might want to give the impression that they are a "neighborhood watch" group and be completely legit. They would in fact be like a "neighborhood watch" group except most "neighborhood watch" groups don't train in the woods with weapons.
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