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Posted: 3/25/2006 4:38:01 PM EDT
I was just watching John Kasich's show "The Heartland" on Fox, and he was interviewing a former FBI Agent named Mike German. Apparently, this agent had formerly worked undercover infiltrating white hate groups and neo-Nazi's. During the interview, Kasich was discussing the Nazi's when he brought up Timothy McVeigh. This caught my attention, since as far as I know, Mc Veigh was never associated with the neo-Nazi movement, so what did McVeigh have to do with the neo Nazi's?
Kasich then went on to the militia movement, at which point the former agent and Kasich both connected all three groups, essentially saying that the Neo Nazi's, the Militia movement, and white supremacists were in essence all one and the same. I know that there have been ties in the past from some militia organizations to the other two, but I think it's a stretch to equate the militia movement to those groups. Anybody else see the interview, and what was your take? Did you hear the same thing as me? |
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If you believe the words coming out of federal agents mouths...I am sure he as some ocean front land in Arizona to sell you too.
Feds either lie or are stupid. Plain as day. I am sure he knows EVERYONE in any "militia" and can vouch that everyone of them is the same. Kind of like saying, if you are this color, you are all the same. |
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WTF is militia in the same group as the KKK and Neo Nazis? Oh I know, they have scary guns and support the unpopular ammendment that has nothing to do with hunting. Those racist white crackers.
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John Hancock Samuel Adams John Adams Robert Treat Paine Elbridge Gerry New Hampshire Josiah Bartlett William Whipple Matthew Thornton Rhode Island Stephen Hopkins William Ellery Connecticut Roger Sherman Samuel Huntington William Williams Oliver Wolcott New York William Floyd Philip Livingston Francis Lewis Lewis Morris New Jersey Richard Stockton John Witherspoon Francis Hopkinson John Hart Abraham Clark Pennsylvania Robert Morris Benjamin Rush Benjamin Franklin John Morton George Clymer James Smith George Taylor James Wilson George Ross Delaware Caesar Rodney George Read Thomas M' Kean Maryland Samuel Chase William Paca Thomas Stone Charles Carrol Virginia George Wythe Richard Henry Lee Thomas Jefferson Benjamin Harrison Thomas Nelson, Jr. Francis Lightfoot Lee Carter Braxton North Carolina William Hooper Joseph Hewes John Penn South Carolina Edward Rutledge Thomas Heyward Thomas Lynch Arthur Middleton Georgia Button Gwinnett Lyman Hall George Walton Some former militia members. |
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watch out for those guys! |
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You did not know this ? , SHT. even Rambo will be fighting , not crazed Muzzie suicide bombers , or Jihadists , but white "gun own'in" "redneck" neo-nazi , "malitia" types in his new movie !! -- the left , and their Intercom the MSM thinks that is the bigger threat
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The feds have ALWAYS villainized the militia movement. They're all portrayed as dangerous, violent, racist rednecks who all live in bunkers, own illegal weapons, and live out paranoid delusions.
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yeah not like arfcom at all..... |
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We're mostly harmless. |
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-Ben |
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they are dangerous... to the government. I can not tell you how many of my friends believe that the need of firearms to overthrow your government is well... un-needed, because we can just demonstrate and engage in civil disobedience if the government oppresses us. |
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I guess what bothers me most about this portrayal, is that the need to connect the militia movement with the white supremacists seemed to have died down in the past few years. I think that the southern border problems have reinvigorated a debate, and the Minutemen have generally been portrayed as law abiding and (amazingly), well...normal. The notion of American patriots doesn't seem so kooky anymore, but then tonight, here we go again with the militia/white supremacist connection being drawn. John Kasich really surprised and disappointed me with his willingness to quickly make that connection.
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Yep, Right Wing Extremists, the lot of 'em |
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...Mostly |
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Sounds like there are a LOT of domestic terrorists. You could even say the illegals are domestic terrorists. The ACLU are. ARFCOMMER'S are... |
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lippo : holy crap , if PREZ. Hillary ever got hold of a copy of that , we would all be in deep SHT !!! |
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So I suppose one of the unspoken questions is "how come the Mainstream Media doesn't make the same jump to Muslims/islamofacist terrorsits, and lump them all together"?
Oh, sorry. This is America in 2006. The feds have done a great job (with the help of the MSM) convincing the sheeple that all militia members must be nazis. Almost as good a job as HCI has done convincing the sheeple that an AR-15 is a "high caliber machine gun that can be bought from an ice cream truck". Nobody likes nazis. Makes things easy for them. Another advantage for the feds: since (to the libs) the "power base" all consists of white males, the feds can chase them down with impunity, as opposed to the "oppressed undocumented workers" and "devout ROP's" who all have leagues of libs ready to cry "police state" for little things like a visa verification. |
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The force is strong in those statements. As far as Jewell goes, probably. They didn't get an awful lot right about ol' Richard. |
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All it is is the typical demonization of those types of people likely to stand up to the Feds. Remember during the Clinton Regime? He demonized all the above types and then some
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Yeah, no kidding. |
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Ironically, there was also a sale on jackboots. |
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www.virginianewssource.com/VNS/terrorismrpt.html
Here's a lovely tidbit.... go read this. You'll think the tinfoil is strong, until you actually download the manual at the link. Guess who they list as domestic terrorists -- how about PRIVATE PROPERTY ACTIVISTS? |
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No shit, Muslim Terrorist like you and your buddies just use IED’s. BTW did you ever find that AK-47 in Charleston, West Virginia when you went home for Christmas? |
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wow, what's your problem dude? |
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That's an issue that's been simmering on the backburner for a while, but now with so many Eminent Domain cases making the news, it's getting moved to the front. |
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I saw Mike German speak once at an anti-terrorism conference. Nice fellow, but like all FBI and former FBI, they see as terrorists anyone who doesn't fully support the federal government 100%. Remember Clinton's line about "you can't love your country and hate your government"? He merely said what a lot of federales across the political spectrum believe.
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Never kept up on PreMed_Gunner post much have you. |
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no i haven't, could you fill me in or provide a link? |
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All I can say is...
I despise Nazis, Neo-Nazis, and supremacists of any kind. I don't give a damn what finish they've got on them, or what kind of bullshit they believe. They can all go to Hell. |
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So many post, just have to say the Team search function would provide a wealth of information on PreMed_Gunner |
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Check some of the threads about Islam. His opinions on some issues run counter to many on this site. |
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So, if the Militia movement teamed up with the Black Panthers, would they be ok, in the eys of the Fed and the Media?
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ahh forget it then. i made a promise to myself to never again click on an islam thread unless it contained breaking news or the like. |
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Yeah, same here... |
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MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL INVADERS SCARE ME |
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I AM A WHITE NATIONALIST AND BELIEVE ANY WHITE WHO HATES THIER RACE DESERVES THE HELL THEY BUILD FOR THEMSELVES, SUCH AS CALIFORNIA. |
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Oh yeah, well large predators scare me. |
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Might want to keep in mind not everyone here is white. |
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This is Clintons speech at Michigan State after the Oklahoma City bombing.
Boy, he doesn't have a clue what goes on out here in the real America does he? He doesn't know or want to say that our Founding Fathers were called terrorists, they killed people that didn't agree with them and started the Revolution for less than what we put up with on a daily basis today. I'm not saying that we shouldn't try our cases in the courts, but he and the rest of them are really out of touch with reality! |
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Heck, I'm only MOSTLY white. |
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*looking into his crystal ball* I see a banning in your future. |
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I'm about half, maybe one full quarter... |
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