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Posted: 3/22/2006 3:44:46 AM EDT
[#1]
I have no idea what you'd be sacrificing in order to accept that sum of cash but whatever you choose, I wish you the best of luck.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 3:44:50 AM EDT
[#2]
IBTUB (in before the union bashers) 
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Posted: 3/22/2006 3:45:39 AM EDT
[#3]
If you've already got an established business going I would take the money and run.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 3:45:43 AM EDT
[#4]
I took early retirement (20yrs) with a package that is nowhere near as pricey as yours.
Depends how bad you want out. I wanted at any cost. Perhaps GM may offer you nothing in 2-5 years. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 3:45:45 AM EDT
[#5]
+1 How old are you? Good Luck. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 3:47:26 AM EDT
[#6]
Take the $$ and do the sign busniness! Nothing beats being your own boss!!
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Posted: 3/22/2006 3:50:34 AM EDT
[#7]
A job is just a job. Take the cash and start looking for a new one. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 3:51:38 AM EDT
[#8]
After taxes it won't be 100K. How many years at GM? I'd take the money and run! Don't know what the future at GM will be like. They could just have a layoff and you'll get nothing.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 3:52:10 AM EDT
[#9]
'Depends whom you're werkkin' for.... 
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Posted: 3/22/2006 3:55:25 AM EDT
[#10]
When you do your risk reward analysis IMHO you can not count on your GM benefits because they are in pretty bad shape and will most likely bail on most of their former employees.
I am of the belief that you should never depend on the company that you made your living with for your retirement. They have no vested interest in your up-keep so you are just overhead to be eventually cut. If you can afford to walk I would say do it but there is a lot to consider and that is what you need to do. Keep in mind that if you are bringing home 50K per year net, you are only looking at a 22 or 23 month income stream. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 3:56:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/22/2006 3:58:12 AM EDT
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Well, I would only lose my pay and retirement. My wife also works for GM, so her health insurance would cover me. My wife and I have discussed me leaving GM for my business and she supports me 100%. As I said, we were working towards this anyways. This would be just an extra incentive. But, this would be a big jump for me. I know I can do it, but there is always that feeling of failure in the back of my head. I'm only 26, so I have my whole life ahead of me (God giving). Thank you for the good wishes. I wish you the same. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:00:52 AM EDT
[#13]
I wish they'd offer me 100k to move on from work.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:01:39 AM EDT
[#14]
Questions you should ask yourself:
How much will this be after taxes. How old am I now and how long before my kids are out of college. Will this amount enable me to reduce my debt load (mortgage, car payment, etc.) to a point where I can manage on my retirement alone in case other things don't work out. Do I want to leave my present job. If GM goes belly up, will I have a pension. There are a lot more questions. I'm considering a similar situation and if I can swing it later this year, I'm going. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:05:33 AM EDT
[#15]
If you think there is a good chance (say 40 to 60%) that you will get laid off anyway, taking the money might be the best option. Security is going to be hard for you to come by whether you stay with GM or start your own buisness. Good luck. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:06:35 AM EDT
[#16]
Ha! Thats what I meant
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:07:06 AM EDT
[#17]
after taxes? if so, yes. you can invest that in half short and half long term adn live decently for a bit.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:07:27 AM EDT
[#18]
They're going bankrupt, don't like you, and next time they offer you a chance to leave it may be $0. Seems like a easy decision, take the $ and run
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:09:17 AM EDT
[#19]
what do you mean you will loose your retirment? don't you have a 401k and haven't they already vested on however much you have put in. how can they take that away.
P.S. I don't understand much about retirment. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:15:58 AM EDT
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Take the money and pay off your house (if it will cover it), thereby alleviating the biggest single expense most people ever have in their lives. You'll be 26 and without a house payment. Kinda makes transition to something else a little less stressful. And if you should eventually have to relocate, selling your house is 100% profit.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:16:40 AM EDT
[#21]
100K is better than a kick in the nuts.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:16:52 AM EDT
[#22]
Talk to an accountant before you do anything. You may be able to roll that money directly from GM into an IRA or similar account tax free if you never actully "touch" it. I know that leaves you with no income after you leave, but if you have income from your business and your wife, you will not starve, and it beats Hell out of losing half or more of your settlement to the tax man!
Good luck! |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:17:46 AM EDT
[#23]
No 401k. I've only worked here for 5 years. As of now, 30yrs, you are guranteed (supposedly  ) a full pension. After 10 years, you get a pension, but it's barely anything. With my time, I don't have enough to get any pension.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:21:18 AM EDT
[#24]
GM is offering a fools bet. I bet there will be plenty of fools who will take it. They will be broke 24 months after they walk. Looks like it's gonna be a 2yr party here in Michigan.....until the money runs out.
Shop_Rat $100k ain't shit. Keep working for GM & keep the sign gig as a side biz. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:21:54 AM EDT
[#25]
MMMMMmmmBullshit! You just want the dough for Machine guns and suppressors, the sign business is just at cover! If it were me, I'd use the money to pick up stakes and move down south. You could get a hell of a piece of property with a house on it for that kind of money with STILL a year's worth of income left over. After that, a gas station job could get you by if times got tight. Do it. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:21:57 AM EDT
[#26]
... How long do you have to answer?
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:31:03 AM EDT
[#27]
Are you and your wife disciplined enough to sit on that much cash and only spend it on making the business work instead of buying new things and taking vacations? Are you in a position where you two can make it for a couple years based on her income alone? If the answer to both questions is yes, then grab the money and jump start your business. You need to talk to an accountant though to find the best way to shelter that money from taxes because you will lose close to half of it. Look at incorporating your business and see if there is a way to work that $100,000 into the startup of the corporation.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:31:53 AM EDT
[#28]
I don't think many will take the $100k. I just don't trust the auto industry and when both my wife and my incomes depend on it, I don't feel secure. The sign business is getting to the point that it is interferring with my GM job. I just don't have enough time to do them both. I hate my job at GM and love the sign biz. Plus, I'm not going to just waste the cash on hookers and blow. It would be an investment towards the business. We'll see. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:32:12 AM EDT
[#29]
Move down to Kentucky or West Virginia and go to work for Toyota, since you already have auto industry experience. Just an idea. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:33:52 AM EDT
[#30]
You caught me. 
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:33:56 AM EDT
[#31]
If you've only been working for them for five years, I'd be leaning hard toward taking the money and running while the running's good. If you're planning to leave soon anyway, it's a no-brainer to me at least. I guess it depends on your salary. It's a big difference if you're making 20K vs 150K per year.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:34:56 AM EDT
[#32]
This was just announced today. I'm not sure how long we have. Hopefull another couple of months or so. That would really help make the decision. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:35:04 AM EDT
[#33]
I wouldn't do it, but I am very risk averse. GM has a very nice pension & benefits setup.
Then again, if GM goes bankrupt, that may all disappear. Maybe you should take the money while they are still offering it. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:36:18 AM EDT
[#34]
I would think we would have enough self control. I plan on talking to an accountant before signing on the line. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:40:27 AM EDT
[#35]
Good lord you're only 26 and they're offering you this kind of buyout? I assumed you were at least late 40's and they were trying to screw you out of your retirement package. Hell, yes I would take it. You have another 30+ years of earning years left and that 65k after taxes, if invested properly, could be worth quite a bit of money by the time retirement rolls around. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:42:37 AM EDT
[#36]
Your sign business will do good as long as you don't unionize
That way you won't have to pay an employee $25.00 an hour to turn on the lights every morning...J/K dude...Seriously,look at what GM is going through right now..shrinking market share,huge money losses,layoffs are inevitable.All the striking workers won't be able to do a thing when nobody is buying GM products.What do you do at GM now ? Are your skills able to transfer to a real world job ? I would take the cash because I think GM won't be around in thier current form in the next 3-5 years. Sounds to me like you have already made up your mind though. Good luck in whatever you decide. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:44:18 AM EDT
[#37]
I don't know you situation so can't comment much other than relate a story that happened in Tier II supplier.
Moving much of the business overseas, the company offered a fincial early retirement. It was pretty much the retirement monthly income until age 62. Seeing what was on the horizon most jumped on it, however some did not. Those that didn't got laid off anyway except now no benifits were extended. I didn't know a one who didn't wish they taken the earlier offer. Its the what if I stay that one must include in their decision process. Tj |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:45:13 AM EDT
[#38]
100K will be considered a gift by the IRS. You will only get $50K. Gift tax=50%. What do you think? If you don't take it, will they make the deal sweeter later on? How long do you think you will last if you don't take it? What are your job prospects if you leave? |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:45:49 AM EDT
[#39]
At 26 I would take the money and run, unless you loved your job. Do check with an accountant or financial planner - 100K in an IRA may beat 65K in pocket at your age.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:47:51 AM EDT
[#40]
You're 26 and you have to think about this???
 Take the money and run. For the record, I grew up in a GM household. My stepfather always complained about how it was going down hill, union and all. He worked there from the late '60's till he retired. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:48:54 AM EDT
[#41]
WTF??? Go back to whatever you were doing before financial planning. Please. 
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:51:37 AM EDT
[#42]
Take the money and RUN!
Seriousley. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:51:51 AM EDT
[#43]
Take the money.
If GM does well the wife and you will benefit. If GM fails you at least have a serious chunk of change right now. If you invest most of the money right now and leave it alone for 20 or 30 years you should be able to retire happily. Overall with how GM is doing right now I would take that 100k without a 2nd thought and count my blessings that I could afford to get retrained or whatever in another area that won't be downsized so easily. And yeah I know your sign business is picking up from what you posted but I would still be making sure you could make yourself easily employed if that falls through. I think someone said 100k is not much, when you are 26 and can invest that money for 20 or 30 years that is a lot of money potential. And do talk to an accountant since it might be well worth investing the 100k if you can skip taxes on it and then figure out how to do a loan or something from your own money and you will pay yourself back the interest. Heck, talk to a couple accountants and see what the options happen to be. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:51:52 AM EDT
[#44]
Also, I don't have any kids and don't plan to.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 5:02:57 AM EDT
[#45]
Wouldn't that be considered more of a severence package? |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 5:06:24 AM EDT
[#46]
YES START A BUISNESS OF YOUR OWN.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 5:07:55 AM EDT
[#47]
..........if they go belly up, you get NOTHING
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Posted: 3/22/2006 5:12:59 AM EDT
[#48]
you've only been there 5 yrs? what did you do there? |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 5:16:48 AM EDT
[#49]
That's one of the biggest things I keep thinking about. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 5:20:29 AM EDT
[#50]
IMHO GM is on the verge of dumping it's labor force to reduce costs and remain in business.
If it was me i'd take the money and find a new career. 100k should support you for a few years. |
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