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Posted: 8/15/2001 7:32:07 AM EDT
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I'm told that the Marines have resumed their custom of always turning to face the President, a traditional sign of respect, which had been unofficially rescinded during the Clinton administration.
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Posted: 8/15/2001 7:34:19 AM EDT
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Jarhead_22-
I can't begin to put into words the feeling I get watching President Bush as he salutes the Marine Honor Guard whenever they are present, compared to the disgust I felt when Klinton waved a salute at them. Do the words 'respect' & 'honor' come to mind? They do when I see Bush - but never did when it was Klinton in the pics. |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 7:41:40 AM EDT
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Quoted: the Marines have resumed their custom of always turning to face the President, a traditional sign of respect, which had been unofficially rescinded during the Clinton administration. I love little jabs at Klinton like this, something I would not have known if not for the savvy people here. |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 7:42:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: I'm told that the Marines have resumed their custom of always turning to face the President, a traditional sign of respect, which had been unofficially rescinded during the Clinton administration. Is this so? raf, from what I understand, with no hard evidence to show that it actually happened, that was a bit of an urban legend. In the military, you salute the rank, not the man. I saluted officers that I knew had no heart or honor, but I did it because they were wearing bars or leaves, not because I necessarily respected the individual. Semper Fidelis Jarhead out. |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 7:45:08 AM EDT
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Flatlander: Sorry to disappoint, but thats just a rumor. The Marines surrounding the VH60 or VH3 never turned to face Slick Willy because they were sentries guarding the aircraft, not an Honor Guard, the function these Marines are serving.
Kharn |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 7:45:33 AM EDT
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I found this article in another forum.
Although us Army guys talk alot of crap about Marines, I gotta give a big Hooah to you guys...well done/bravo-zulu. :) ---------------- Subject: FW: USMC Respect CNN recently showed President Bush leaving HMX1(Marine Helicopter Squadron 1). The Marine at the front step saluted, the President returned it & that was that. Or was it? As the president walked away, the Marine executed a right face to stand facing the president's back, a tradition that (for those of us "in the loop") has been strangely missing for the previous 8 years. The traditional Marine Corps mark of respect has now been rendered to the new president, a tradition, I might add, that dates back to the days of sail, when the Marine orderly to the ship's captain always faced him, to be ready to receive an order. Who says that enlisted men can't hold back when they don't respect someone? For 8 years, they did. Our former draft-dodging president (Clinton) never had a clue. The Marines did, & for 8 years, they let the whole world know how they really felt about him. Now, they've let us know how they really feel about President Bush... Mark Mark L. Evans Historian Naval Aviation History Branch Washington Navy Yard 805 Kidder Breese Street, S.E. Washington, DC 20374-5060 U.S.A. (202) 433-2321 |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 7:50:01 AM EDT
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Nitpicking here...
The presidents salute is a little sloppy. [:P] I've never been in the military but I know how to properly do a salute with and without a cover. |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 7:52:31 AM EDT
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Jarhead, message understood.
IIRC the "turn to face" issue had been mentioned in a couple of mainstream news outlets, including (IIRC) Limbaugh radio show. Just curious if this was actually so, or urban legend as you say. BTW, Saluting is required, and the omission is instantly noticed. However, the 'turn to face' is (correct me if I'm wrong) optional, and just the sort of thing that a draft-dodger like Clinton could be counted on to miss. If I'm wrong on this, let me know, OK? |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 7:52:36 AM EDT
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uhhhhh.. i dont think its a rumor. According to the naval historian, the Marine guards did in fact salute Clinton, but didnt do the facing thing.
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Posted: 8/15/2001 7:54:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: Nitpicking here... The presidents salute is a little sloppy. [:P] I've never been in the military but I know how to properly do a salute with and without a cover. Yeah, but don't forget flyboys like President Bush get used to saluting in fore-and-aft caps, and it looks like that's what he's doing. He just needs to straighten out the wrist and bring his elbow up a little. |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 7:57:43 AM EDT
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Thanks for clearing that up, CPL_Punishment.
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Posted: 8/15/2001 8:02:27 AM EDT
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I stand corrected.
Semper Fidelis Jarhead out. |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 8:09:01 AM EDT
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And thank you, too, Jarhead_22.
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Posted: 8/15/2001 8:09:26 AM EDT
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Now if we could only get rid of that pea shooter the Marine is carring and replace it with a 1911.
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Posted: 8/15/2001 8:40:20 AM EDT
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[url]http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/outrage/salute.htm[/url]
I'd love to see someone go back through old video clips and find out what the true story is. |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 8:50:16 AM EDT
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Quote from newspaperman in the film 'The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence': "When the Truth conflicts with the Legend...Print the Legend!"
Well, I'll go with the truth, of course. But 'till I know different, I kinda like the Legend. |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 9:35:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: Now if we could only get rid of that pea shooter the Marine is carring and replace it with a 1911. Ain't that the truth, brother. The SEALs went dumped the Beretta when a few of them nearly lost eyes over broken slide stops. It seems the M9 just can't hold up to the volume of rounds those guys put through theirs. They went to the Sig P229, still the 9mm. Recon bubbas are going back to the 1911, though. They're having them built up by 2112s from bombproof components, and reportedly they're a huge success. FBI HRT and LAPD SWAT have also transitioned to the 1911. Semper Fidelis Jarhead out. |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 3:27:39 PM EDT
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Ooh Rah Jar!
Bulldog Out |
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Posted: 8/15/2001 4:19:04 PM EDT
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I agree. However, this one makes me warm and fuzzy inside. [:)]
[img]http://www.netsnapshot.com/users/1115/images/O3sPEcCoBQIAAFc3cn4_1115_17.pjpeg[/img] |
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