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Posted: 3/14/2006 7:02:59 AM EDT
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They're popular because even after 95 years, no one has yet come up with a better trigger or better ergonomics on a handgun.
Point #4 shows the author to be an idiot as well. |
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I am genetically programmed to tag anything that says "1911" in the title.
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The 1911's I have are just alot of funto shoot. They feel like they were designed for my hand.
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mmm....I'd say, right off the top of my head
that he's a complete 'tard. |
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Now damned near everybody builds 'em. |
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Yet the author is writing about the 1911 TODAY. So that would either make him: A) a 'tard, or B) willfully misleading. Chose one. |
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Find me a better gun that fits my hand better, shoots as accurate and is a slim to carry as my 1911 and I will consider buying 1. until then , my 1911 stays on my side.
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And when Kimber built 'em, they called 'em "Custom". |
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They are nice guns and extremely accurate. I just prefer my HK USP. I would like to get another 1911 at some point just because I was so damn accurate with it.
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Occam's razor. Middle class wealth is at an all-time high. More people with money, more people buying guns. 1911 is one of the best if not the best design out there.
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Yep. Stupid article. |
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EVERYBODY knows what a 1911 looks like. |
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Why are they so popular?
Because the kaboom factor is non-existant! |
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They called them "Custom" because they came from the factory with what had previously been custom features: Extended Beavertail, Extended safety, beveled mag well, tight frame-to-slide fit, etc. |
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It is supposed to be funny. There is a grain of truth to it. That is why it is funny. 1911 people are so UN humorous. |
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If it is supposed to be funny, he ought to try to turn a funny phrase. As written, it is just lame clap-trap. |
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Wrong on all counts, of course. Browning wasn't the principal designer of the Hi Power, that was Saive. Also, Browning didn't consider the Hi Power a better design, it was a design to different specs. And of course, it's not a better gun. |
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For me, my Kimber is the perfect handgun. It points and shoots exactly where I aim it and is flawless. The only mod I've made is adding an arched MSH which fits me better than the flat MSH.
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As soon as somebody comes up with a gun that fits my hand better than a 1911, with a better trigger, and more accurate, for a reasonable price, I'll buy the sumbitch.
As far as failures go, I've owned four 1911's, with no failures not ammo related, even in the crappy old RIA. |
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One the biggest reason the 1911 will be on top for many more years is that one can do almost anything to it within and outside the realm of reason. Grips, sights, triggers, you name it, it's been tried at least once. No gun, either rifle or handgun, is as easy to "customise'.
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You guys are funny. Last time I checked, Bane was a HUGE fan of all things 1911-related and carries several different variants for personal protection. Atleast it seems he can look at things objectively (unlike some here)
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I disagree. The public would know a what a wheel gun looks like - Dirty Harry's gun. Ask them about a 1911 and you'll get a blank stare. |
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Kimber almost singlehandedly put the small gunsmith out of business. I know some that took a whippin because their bread and butter was tuning a 1911. Kimber proved that you could make a production 1911 with the most desired upgrades stock. Their series I and series II w/ internal extractors were some of the finest production pistols for the money. They came with a good trigger, beaver tail grip safety, etc. For around $600 they were a steal. I have a CustomII and a Ultra CDP II that have internal extractors that just run. The triggers are crisp and break cleanly.
Of late, I beleive Kimber's quality has slipped and the gawd awful decision to move to the external extractor has made them less than first choice in my book. I think that Springfield has taken the top spot in terms of value. SA's service is top notch. YMMV |
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There's just no getting around ergonomics. The 1911 is the best with the BHP right behind. The human hand will not appreciably change (if ever). All those who say out-of-date and other non-sensical things are simply ignorant and seem to forget that: When its done right, its done right and time will not change that. |
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True, but they were using the same "factory custom" nomenclature that the author complained of, with associated higher prices. Quality and price both are higher than a GI spec and lower than a real custom pistol. That's not to say that the author doesn't come off like a pissy, bitter fan of an "also-ran" platform with nothing better to do than bitch some. He started out with his conclusion (1911's are outdated, their fans are goofy, and their popularity unexplainable), and worked up his arguments from there. He is right however that the alterations to the 1911A1 standard which are commonly believed to improve reliability are normally only found outside the most basic models, and are rarely if ever the factory standard for those cheaper weapons. Does this negate the effectiveness or importance of the model? Only if you thought of it as neither effective nor important to begin with. |
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I probably have more trigger time with the M1911A1s I had as my sidearm in the service than any other pistol type.
And today my first choice in .45 ACP is the P220. The 1911 is a superb design. But the best .45 ACP pistol made? Not in my opinion. |
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i bought into the 1911's a while back. my first was a warrior. excellent craftsmanship, gun worked well, i sold it after putting about 500 rounds through it. it's all about what works for you. |
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While I disagree with Point Number Four, but IMHO he's pretty right-on with the rest.
I love the 1911 but there is no reason it should still be doing so well... Well, other than "it was done right the first time and improved steadily since then", anyway. 1911 fan for life. Looking forward to 2011, hopefully by then I'll have enough $$$ for a Nighthawk Customs 1911 |
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" The incredible concept of the “factory custom,” or, For Only a Few Hundred Dollars More, We’ll Sell You One That Actually Works."
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I'd like to see an article written by those in other parts of the world, and what they think of our .45's?
Probably the same type of response they get from our Corvettes/American Sportcars......just designed to go in a straightline.... |
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Browning died before he finished the Hi-Power |
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Browning should've created the BHP in .45. HH |
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.45 automatic what? Some people will think glocks, beretta, sig, s&w... list goes on. The 1911 just not as identifiable as a wheel gun like dirty harry's. |
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You too huh? |
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It was a funny article.
But here are my real thoughts on why the 1911 is so popular. 1. It works. My SA is reliable and accurate out of the box, at least once I got some Wilson magazines. It might not be as technically reliable as some new pistols but I’m not planning on soaking it in salt water and sand for a week before shooting it. 2. It’s designed right. There is no long DA trigger pull, it has a thumb safety, and the trigger is pretty good out of the box. Many other designs have slide mounted safety or no safety at all. For me, that takes them out of consideration. 3. It fits people with medium sized hands. Double stacked double action automatics just don’t. 4. It’s single stack magazine makes the pistol thinner, which helps with concealed carry. 5. It’s a .45. 6. Parts, magazines, ammunition, and holsters are all easy to find. 7. The 1911 has a certain style that other pistols just don’t. |
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