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Posted: 8/14/2001 5:22:09 PM EDT
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I just looked this up. The best info i found says it was brewed on land. For example Indian Pale ales were specifically designed as a high alchohol beer for travel. It was developed for the english so they could send quality beer overseas for the military. The high alcohol level acted as a preservative for long travel in warm conditions. I would venture a guess that anything brewed at sea in the hot humid decks of a ship would be some REALLY skanky brew. I would also think it would be VERY hard to brew in a large enough quantity aboard ship.
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Posted: 8/14/2001 5:22:56 PM EDT
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Don't know a lot about brewing beer, but I do know that where there's a will there's a way. I would also be willing to bet that a ship full of guys out in the middle of the ocean would be pretty willing to at least try and brew a little barley and hops.
Then again, maybe they did take it with them. Where else would all of that "yo ho ho and a bottle of rum" stuff come from? They probably had more important stuff to do than make beer anyways. Michael |
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Posted: 8/14/2001 6:01:07 PM EDT
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Ya, that's kind of what I thought. I mean, at sea you wouldn't be able to keep your wort at a constant temp. And it also seems that in the confines of a ship, just the production process for a large ship would take up alot of manpower and space. At least alot more than just storing it on board.
He even brought up the pilgrims stopping to brew, which I thought made my point, but tried to say that they ran out of ingredients for brewing. Didn't make much sense me. Anyway, thanks for the help. Don't be suprised if you see me seeking brewing advice again. |
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Posted: 8/14/2001 6:03:11 PM EDT
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It is my understanding that civilization as we know it occurred because of beer. A long time ago, people were nomadic and travelled great distances. Eventually, they would come across a very small village that had some supplies but also brewed a beer like drink. Overtime, the nomads decided to stop travelling and settled down in or near these supply type brewery villages and larger more permanent villages sprouted. And here we are.
I don't know the exact time periods involved but it must be true cuz I read it in an airlines magazine while I was enjoying a brew myself. [:D] |
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Posted: 8/14/2001 6:12:13 PM EDT
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figure it this way. Some all grain recipies will take up to 20lbs of grain and malt to produce 5-6 gallons of beer. not to mention the kegs and such. 5 gallons of brew would not last long for a ships crew. i figure it would take several hundred pounds of supplies for a few months voyage. That is a LARGE amount of lost cargo space. Considering that it takes a minimum of 14-21 days for a young batch the numbers just don't add up.
I would guess that is the main reason rum was popular. Much faster to make and packed a lot more puch per ounce served. 5 gallons of rum will last much longer and isn't sensitive to enviornment. At least that's my story and i'm sticking to it. mike |
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Posted: 8/14/2001 6:22:34 PM EDT
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if anyone wants a good book on the history and techniques check out
The New Complete Joy of Homebrewing good starter book. mike |
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Posted: 8/14/2001 6:35:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: I just looked this up. The best info i found says it was brewed on land. For example Indian Pale ales were specifically designed as a high alchohol beer for travel. It was developed for the english so they could send quality beer overseas for the military. The high alcohol level acted as a preservative for long travel in warm conditions. I would venture a guess that anything brewed at sea in the hot humid decks of a ship would be some REALLY skanky brew. I would also think it would be VERY hard to brew in a large enough quantity aboard ship. Ooooh...Ooooh...Mr. Kotter! I think I can add to this. India Pale Ale is not only above average in alcohol content, but it is also very hoppy. The Brits added the extra hops because hops have a natural anti-bacterial property, thus protecting the brew for long voyages. Ironically, I think I got that info from the NCJH! Mike, did ya ever cook up that recipie that I sent you? |
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Posted: 8/14/2001 6:43:50 PM EDT
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i haven't yet. The really bad part is i'm out of brew and have 2 kits waiting to go. Been working 55+ hour weeks for the last month and haven't had time to brew. But that recipe looks great. It's gonna be on the top of my list to try.
Yep thats where you got the info. I just didn't want to retype that whole book :> mike |
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Posted: 8/14/2001 6:48:23 PM EDT
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Quoted: i haven't yet. The really bad part is i'm out of brew and have 2 kits waiting to go. Been working 55+ hour weeks for the last month and haven't had time to brew. But that recipe looks great. It's gonna be on the top of my list to try. Yep thats where you got the info. I just didn't want to retype that whole book :> mike Let me know how it turns out. I'm interested to find out if you'll like it. I'm getting my 5gal stainless cooking pot out next week and gonna cook me up some autumn brew. Don't know what yet, but you gave me the fever to get back into it. "Relax, have a homebrew" Michigander in Maryland |
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Posted: 8/14/2001 6:52:22 PM EDT
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lately i got hooked on a honey pilsner. i made one and it was without a doubt one of the best i have ever done. Ask balming and ph119 what they thought about it.
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