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Posted: 3/5/2006 10:54:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:00:56 AM EDT
[#1]
Dude, that thing is awesome! You need to find a hit and miss engine now. Try ebay for starters.
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:06:01 AM EDT
[#2]
Damn dude!!! you are about 2 months too late. I have a 10 horse 3 phase motor that I left at the house with the ex because I never found a use for it. (got it off previous employer for free!!!) Would have gladly shipped it to you for only the cost of shipping.
But, the planer is SWEET |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:08:19 AM EDT
[#3]
I am so jealous right now. You scored well my friend. How did you find that jewell ?
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:08:48 AM EDT
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Is it gone? You could give her a call, catch up on old times...  NM, I know about ex's  Story of my life...Day late, dollar short. |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:09:40 AM EDT
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www.craigslist.com $400  I am going to make some table tops. |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:12:56 AM EDT
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WOW $ 400.00 !!!!!!!!! you must have had a hard time keeping a straight face paying for it
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:21:58 AM EDT
[#7]
My gawd. That thing looks scary. I have a 14" jointer that would go well with that?
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:25:56 AM EDT
[#8]
Nice score.
Do you think it will work? Looks like it needs a good refurb. Are parts available for that thing? |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:34:00 AM EDT
[#9]
WILL THAT BUFF OUT?
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:35:29 AM EDT
[#10]
So what does this machine do?
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:38:36 AM EDT
[#11]
It's ready to run, I just need it to spin. No parts, I will have to make any parts. There really nothing to go bad other than the belts, bearings and knives. |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:39:03 AM EDT
[#12]
Planes. |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:39:43 AM EDT
[#13]
Use that to remove your gallbladder and be sure to post pics and video.
Nice looking planer. |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:44:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:46:26 AM EDT
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The reason he could not keep a straight face is because he bought it from the Nudist Camp up the street from me. 
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:46:43 AM EDT
[#16]
It surfaces wood, what I used to make my bar. |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:47:25 AM EDT
[#17]
Forgot to mention that part. 
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Posted: 3/5/2006 11:50:29 AM EDT
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Ya know that Lake Bronson has parks all over the US, You could get yourself and TRG one of those membership things, and no matter where you two lovers end up. you can have a place to crash. 
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Posted: 3/5/2006 12:02:02 PM EDT
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130 years old and still serviceable.
How many pieces of equipment made today will even be recognizable in 130 years? True quality lasts. Nice score. I've got a roughly 50 year old Delta jointer (6" with a 42" cast iron bed) that I got for free. I just need to get new blade retention screws for it and replace that crapo motor with a real one and I'll be set. I KNOW that it'll cut a dead straight line once I align it. For motors...get a Baldor. There is no better motor. CJ |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 12:19:03 PM EDT
[#20]
Before I clicked on the link, I thought "Yeah, right, it isn't OLD until you need to run the leather belt from the planer pulley to the steam engine or water wheel output." Then I clicked... Okay, it's old.
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Posted: 3/5/2006 12:21:14 PM EDT
[#21]
An old pallet mill I worked at before I joined the Army had one of those exact planers.
Get in touch with Graham Pallet in Tompkinsville, KY and see if it's in the old part of the mill. They upgraded a bunch of equipment just as I was going in the Army. You may get lucky on the motor for it. |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 12:32:00 PM EDT
[#22]
Awesome find. Definitely get a 10HP motor for that beast, anything less and you will regret it. After a cleaning and servicing it will probably spit out lumber better than a brand new machine bought today.
My co-worker's step father was a carpenter/furniture builder and had some 50s-70s era USA made tools. He passed away last year and now all his tools are stored in a garage. From what he told me, he maintained his tools like they were his children and still has all the user manuals. I only wish they would be offered for sale; I hate to be a dick and ask.
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Posted: 3/5/2006 4:58:54 PM EDT
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A planer is a planer. It dimensions wood. I'm sure that planer with the proper service and motor(probably about $800-$1000 for decent new 3 ph 10 hp motor) will dimension wood. Will it work better than a new machine? Most certainly not, but it will probably outlast most stuff built today. Most industrial planers today, such as SCMI, Altendorf, Buttfering ect., are designed to be finish planers, with micro adjustment capabilities, multi knife helical heads, sound control, speed control, and quick change blade features. They also start at about $20k and go up to about 200k. At $400 you probably can't go wrong if you are mechanically inclined. The exposed belts and drive gears are VERY SCARY. BE CAREFUL. I have an old 14" jointer (NORFOLK 1950) that has been in the back of the shop for years after being replaced. I need to find it a new home. Interested? |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 5:28:05 PM EDT
[#24]
how does a nudist colony end up with such a thing?
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Posted: 3/5/2006 5:34:08 PM EDT
[#25]
Just curious, why would you want a three phase motor? Do you have three phase power at your shop? If so you are one lucky mofo. I'd love to get three phase. Equipment is so much cheaper.
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Posted: 3/5/2006 5:37:12 PM EDT
[#26]
I have a 400 amp service with 3 phase to my shop.
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Posted: 3/5/2006 6:47:35 PM EDT
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Whoa! talk about a flash back. That thing was orginally set up for power by an over head belt drive I bet. My Dad got one almost exactly like that from a friend who had it sittiing in a field for years. It had a 24 inch wide bed and would open up to 12 inches of depth. We used a Toyota 4 cyl engine and manual transmission to drive the cutter head and used the powersteering pump and hydraulic motor to drive the rollers (he removed the cogs that synch the rollers to the cutters). He put in a hyrdraulic "throttle" to control the feed speed. To make it go all you had to do was start the engine in neutral, apply the clutch lever, put the tranny in 3rd gear, and slooowly release the clutch. It was awesome!! The whole thing was mounted on a trailer and it would make some nice boards. You could literally put in a couple of railroad tie sized boards at a time if you wanted to.
After my Dad died it was sold to settle his estate. I wish I would have kept it. It was a cool conversation piece to say the least. When people would come over he would start it and demonstrate it for them! He also built a sawmill. He always wanted a sawmill but was too cheap to buy one so he constructed one over a two year period. It startd one Christmas when my youger brother gave my Dad a Honda 550 Four for xmas. Dad took the motorcycle apart and used the engien and transmission as the main powerplant. It was basically a monster badn saw that elevated and traversed along the log. It was awesome! It had not muffler and when we would cut logs the neighbors wouyld coem out to drink beer and watch the machine at work. It had hydrraulics for log turning and clamping as well as a hydro motor traverse the saw carriage. |
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Posted: 3/5/2006 8:32:48 PM EDT
[#28]
All tools are not created equally. You're right, an industrial machine costing several thousand dollars will do an excellent job on lumber with all the features you described. The planer he bought will most probably do a better job than a comparable unit from Powermatic, General Tool, Delta, or a few of the other manufacturers that most shops usually purchase from today. The machines you described are generally used in mills and plants, not small/medium shops. So for a roughly $1,500 investment when all is said and done, I think he did better than buying a new unit (I'd be surprised if most of the top end machines from the makers I mentioned aren't made in Taiwan these days too). |
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Posted: 3/6/2006 1:43:22 AM EDT
[#29]
Im willing to bet it came with the property... This area used to be very strong in the timber businesses, there are lots of old mills in the area. It is not uncommon to be hunting around here and find old broken down Steam Donkeys, and left over tracks. |
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Posted: 3/6/2006 5:01:47 AM EDT
[#30]
I'm so frigging jealous. Would love to find something sweet liike that to replace my 13" planer.
You need to pimp it out by adding a Byrd shelix cutter head to it.  |
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Posted: 3/6/2006 7:14:33 AM EDT
[#31]
Gonna try and get it running as is at the moment.
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Posted: 3/6/2006 8:22:49 AM EDT
[#32]
You are sooo gonna put yer eye out.  Nice find BTW. One thing to note: Make sure to torque the bolts holding the knives in properly, I've had a old planar (c. 1910) throw the knives and rip a hole in the side of the building...Loc-tite might be a good idea as well. |
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Posted: 3/6/2006 11:52:34 AM EDT
[#33]
 Now you got me concerned. |
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Posted: 3/6/2006 11:55:44 AM EDT
[#34]
Yeah hit and miss engine would just about do it.
Watch your fingers! |
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Posted: 3/6/2006 11:58:57 AM EDT
[#35]
I'll trade you my 12.5" Delta for it. You pay shipping.
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Posted: 3/6/2006 11:59:06 AM EDT
[#36]
Check evil bay for motors and drives.
I picked up a 3ph 7HP motor for $65 that was new in the wrap from Graingers! |
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Posted: 3/6/2006 12:54:21 PM EDT
[#37]
Looks like you're on the right track with 10-HP, AAMOF that's probably the minimum you'll want 1GNRNR.
www.owwm.com/MfgIndex/Detail.asp?ID=305 www.owwm.com/FayEgan/History.asp www.owwm.com/MfgIndex/image.asp?id=169 64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:_vK6ZrzutQsJ:www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_rlg4416/is_MAAR0005/pg_2+J+A+Fay+%26+Co+planer&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6 cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?coll=moa&root=/moa/manu/manu0025/&tif=00033.TIF&view=50&frames=1 You might have better luck finding out the max RPMs for that thing here: owwm.com/MfgIndex/detail.asp?ID www.owwm.com/PhotoIndex/detail.asp?id=3797 Keep yer fingers (& anything else you can think of) away from those gears!
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Posted: 3/6/2006 1:11:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/6/2006 1:11:47 PM EDT
[#39]
And maybe weld up a shield around the pully and gears, to keep important body parts from being caught in it. |
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Posted: 3/7/2006 1:37:41 AM EDT
[#40]
Maybe if you are lucky, It will throw one of those knives, and hit you in the gallbladder.
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Posted: 3/11/2006 3:40:49 PM EDT
[#41]
I agree, I didn't think he did bad, I wish him luck and hope to see a pic of that machine hawgin wood. I work in a small custom funiture shop and have been lucky enough to use some extremely high end equiptment. I also agree with fabricating up a sheild for the gears and belts. Not only would I check and locktight the knife retention screws as I would on a new machine, but, I would check ALL bolts, shafts, keys, ect. I wonder if some of you realize the RPM and amount of strain on moving parts under a small work load. Safety first. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 4:58:12 PM EDT
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I bought a refirbed 10HP for $250. I was talking to an old boy about this and he went on and on about how I need to fabricate an anti-kickback device...How big of a problem do you think that is?
I am currently trying to get my pulleys sourced. |
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Posted: 3/12/2006 8:04:05 PM EDT
[#43]
I agree with clippen about checking all the nuts, bolts, screws, shafts, etc. and making sure nothing is bent, corroded/pitted enough to throw a part out of spec. etc.
I don't know how much work it would be to fabricate such a device, but one of the best ways to prevent kickback on a jointer or planer is to never feed a piece of wood into it shorter than the width of the bed. In your case, 24". This prevents the piece from being able to turn and get thrown back by the knives. |
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Posted: 3/13/2006 5:14:24 PM EDT
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I am really excited about getting this going but, I have been having a hard time finding pulleys. I did find one flat belt on Ebay and got that one coming. I need one more for the cutterhead then on to the wiring.
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Posted: 3/13/2006 5:28:37 PM EDT
[#45]
I have a rebuilt chevy 350 in the garage that should spin them knives just fine.
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Posted: 3/13/2006 5:29:42 PM EDT
[#46]
Here is a good resource for info: "http://www.owwm.com/Menu/new_logo.jpg"
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Posted: 3/13/2006 8:52:15 PM EDT
[#47]
Steam engine and over head belts, why stop half way?
You could probably get a machine shop to fab up some anti-kickback devices by scaling up something used on a saw. And definitely not stand "behind" it in any case |
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Posted: 3/13/2006 10:06:07 PM EDT
[#48]
I am all over that site...See previous posts. |
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Posted: 3/13/2006 10:07:02 PM EDT
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I am a fab shop. Good advice on the latter. |
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Posted: 3/24/2006 11:27:29 PM EDT
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Siemens-7-1-2-HP-Electric-Motor-575-Volts-3-Phase-60-HZ_W0QQitemZ7559323343QQcategoryZ67008QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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