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Wow, are things suddenly ACCELERATING in this program, or is it just me?
After 15 years of nothing, suddenly these aircraft seem to be available very very fast. |
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Things have not been accelerated, the -22 was cleared to go into low rate production a couple of years ago and since then they have been delivered at the rate of two a month. And in other F-22 news. Air Force announces preferred F-22A locations 3/1/2006 - WASHINGTON, D.C. (AFPN) -- The Air Force's preferred alternatives for the third and fourth operational F-22A beddowns are Holloman Air Force Base, N.M., and Hickam AFB, Hawaii, said Gen. T. Michael Moseley, Air Force chief of staff, today . “Although we must still complete the environmental analyses required under the National Environmental Policy Act before finalizing our decisions, the preferred third and fourth beddown locations for the F-22A are Holloman Air Force Base and Hickam Air Force Base,” General Moseley said. The proposed plan is for these units to have active and National Guard personnel at both locations. As the Air Force moves forward with this next generation fighter, combining forces to leverage assets gives the service its best possible team to deliver sovereign options for the nation's defense in the global war on terrorism. The F-22A program of record calls for 183 aircraft with production slated through 2012. Currently the F-22A is based at Langley AFB, Va. Elmendorf AFB, Alaska, was previously announced as the preferred location for the second operational beddown. 27 more days to go until I'm done with lawn darts and go back to crewing -22s at Tyndall. |
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i clearly remember when they were testing the YF-22 against the YF-23 in 1990-91
i think they're referring to the F-22 as the F/A-22A now. it's hard to believe the F-15 entered service in 1975 . . now the F-22 will be filling its shoes |
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To bad they didn't make both of them. I love the YF-23. |
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War with China? That's about what it would take... Like the B-2, expensive-but-worth-it will sell pilots & generals who used to be pilots, along with anyone else who's personal safety hinges on the AF's ability to make the other side stop flying... Politicians just see dollar signs & reach for the knife.... OTOH, I'd rather see 183 high-end expensive planes than 300+ economy models.... Ditto for tanks, and any other serious military hardware... Problem is, Congress is more interested in 'Fast, cheap, & plentiful' than 'Good, survivable, effective'..... Air Force doesn't play along, and they get their whiz-bang-everything-and-the-kitchen-sink projects reduced... Army does (FCS, Stryker), and the end result is shitty equipment that will have serious issues if we ever fight an enemy armed with something more than cold-war reject assault rifles & rocket launchers... |
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Langley is a very nice base, as a boy scout once got a tour of the place (can remember seeing an F-117 in a hanger through some binoculars from inside the control tower, it was the closest I had ever been to one (still it was damn far away, but considering it was quite some time ago it was pretty close) and thought it was damn cool)
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Cant wait till they've been deployed at Elmendorf
I love seeing eagles fly around when I am downtown. Great view. Cannot wait to see the raptors. |
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I thought retireing the F-117 early was going to buy more F/A-22's?
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Every time a new Raptor rolls off of the production line another 30 Mission Support junior officers get "force shaped" out of the AF.
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You mean 30 self-loading ballast weights don't you. |
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As a prior enlisted type I'm actually impressed by the dedication most of my fellow Lts have to the mission. I think we both know that the real reason for the cuts is that the AF overcompensated back in 2000. Interestingly enough the accessions from that year aren't subject to force shaping. Just wait to see the promotion rates for O-4 for that year group, it won't be near what it is now. You don't see pilots getting force shaped out despite the over manning. More of the fighter pilot mafia. |
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Watch in a few years the AF will realize that they have gotten rid of to many people (both officer and enlisted) and will be begging people to stay in. |
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Sounds like a hell of a deal to me |
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We could only hope so. |
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Nope, it was switched back to F-22A several months ago. Not a pound for air to ground. |
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Thus the smilie. |
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That's why the USAF only flies F-15s against it. They're scared of the SuperBug! |
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Had me fooled |
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The F-15 and F-14 were developed with air-to-air in mind. The ATF was developed with A2A in mind as well. All three were adapted later for A2G use. Just labeling an aircraft F/A doesn't change the original design. The "not a pound for air to ground" was a stick in the eye of the fighter mafia who would be out of a job, as of late, if it weren't for the A2G role. The removal of the "A" designator was to help save the F-35 and, I'm sure, to assuage the ego of the fighter mafia. |
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clear your cache - doesn't show up on mine unless i view it on it's native server first. |
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Yep, gotta keep all the weight avaibable for the pilot to carry his Golf Clubs. |
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Yeah, I'm getting nothing with that pic. |
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