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Posted: 2/28/2006 4:13:12 PM EDT
because it depicted his prayer at valley forge. What has this country come to? I think ARFCOM should send this teacher some support! I fear where we are headed.
See news article here. -Ben |
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Why should "we" support a religious zealot who is trying to use the public classroom to push his superstitious beliefs onto students at taxpayer expense? He doesn't deserve support, he deserves to be fired!!! |
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Well, if in fact, GW DID pray at VF, a painting depicting it would be ok? Ah the rub. The facts are murky. Just so we toss out ALL murky facts in school, but something tells me the liberal "facts" remain, but conservative "facts" can't be substantiated, so out they go. Washington pray GW Link 2 |
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go back to DU |
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If it were a painting of Saladin praying before battle, everyone would be too afraid to object to it.
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Oh, I agree completely. Go home to the DU. -Ben |
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Not looked closely at your money lately????? Or seen the official Congessional Chaplian? Or military Chaplians???? DUh is needing their idiot back. |
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That's bullshit! Right in my hometown... I'll remember that when I enter politics. Those asswipes running our schools couldn't find their ass with both hands, much less teach kids anything worthwhile.
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Are you people so intellectually challenged and incapable of entering into an intelligent discussion that your only recourse is calling others names like "troll?" How pathetic. |
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You are the intellectually challenged one in the discussion, fucking troll. You have no idea what you are talking about. Go back to DU with the rest of your kind. |
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It's an artists impression of a historical event stupid. It's not a religious comment. You'll never get that though. |
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+1 go home |
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I'm not the one who believes in silly superstitions and magical beings. And I don't approve of these misguided people using tax money to try and shove their silly superstitions down innocent children's throats. Obviously you disagree, and would rather behave like the Taliban using government to force your religious beliefs on others. |
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YEAH!! That damn George Washington!! What did he ever do, anyway? |
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Damn him. |
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Yep. All for free speech, unless of course you don't agree with it. |
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After all, it's the liberal way! |
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+1 |
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So you wish to rewrite history, saying it is utterly false that George Washington did "NOT" pray at Valley Forge? |
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It's not like a picture of someone praying is the same thing as prayer. (Not that I buy all the BS we have to put up with already, it's freedom OF religion not freedom FROM religion)
Maybe I should sue all the over the air channels every time they show pictures of some group of ROPers kneeling torwards Mecca and saying something in Arabic on the news. Why should we be able to have prayer on public airwaves if you can't have any form what-so-ever even just saying the word god in the public square? |
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Was he praying in Spanish? I'm trying to figure out how the poster relates to the curriculum. |
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I don't know if George Washington prayed at Valley Forge or not. Regardless, it is NOT a historically significant event. Even if he did pray, it still made no difference whatsoever in the outcome of the war. What we have in this case is an attempt by a rabidly pro-religion teacher tyiyng to use an insignificant event for one reason only, and that is to push a religious agenda onto the students in a public school. And that's against the law. |
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History my good man. |
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Wow.......DU's finest...... |
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Ahh, beat to post the picture.......
I can't stand the freedom FROM religion crowd....another one of those made up freedoms. How a picture is forcing religion on children is beyond me. |
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your a dumbass , and I'm done with this thread |
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You are telling me you cannot possibly see how this was significant in US history? To be at the brink of death, morale dwindling away, the forces of the enemy closing around, all else seeming to be hopeless, but to find the strength to embolden one to go on and push for victory? Look again. A truly inspirational moment in our history I say. |
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We ain't headed there, we are already there. Most just haven't realized yet, including our enemies. |
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And what law would that be? |
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As long as the righteous keep "pulling down" their banners and memorials, their enemies will keep demanding more of them...I'm glad the founding fathers got to the point where they said, enough is enough...
If parents would pull their kids out of the schools, they would lose money and they would rethink their policies. |
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I wonder if the 'channel one" that kids watch in homeroom ever shows ROPers praying????? SHUT IT OFF!
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IN GOD WE TRUST BABY! |
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First of all, the picture has absolutely nothing to do with religion in the slightest, and anyone saying otherwise is an idiot.
On a completely seperate note, show me where this "seperation of church and state" is? It is not in the constitution, I can tell you that. It was a phrase used by a Justice of the supreme court, which somehow got turned into a law? |
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This works because there are not enough with decency, morals and strength. As long as they can fire or punish a few here and there instead of many, it will continue. Fact is they have the men in this country on the run with their tails between their legs. Pretty damn sad and it is only going to become worse. |
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I see no problem with the Washington poster, and I'm an atheist.
I don't see this as pushing religion on the students. |
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Why did they take down the poster of Washington praying and not....
www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1137834422644&path=!news&s=1045855934842
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I once saw a painting of George Washington chopping down a cherry tree. That doesn't mean it actually happened. And while some may feel that story is "inspirational," it is not by any means "historical." This "artistic interpretation" was merely being used to push a religious agenda, and not teach real histroy.
It's called the First Amendment, and has been ruled upon by the SCOTUS in countless cases and that makes it the law of the land whether you like it or not. And whether you agree with it or not.
At least I can spell. And punctuate. And capitalize And all much better than you. How's it feel to be stupider than a "dumbass?" |
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Go away. You are not wanted here. |
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So the Supreme Court is always right? Why don't we ask Dred Scott about that? And how about "discovering" a right to abortion. I don't care too much if abortion is legal, but you don't have a right to it. |
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Ooh, insulting somebody about his grammatical skills! How mature we are! |
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Look MAW! The self professed "English major" just stepped on his dick! Silly wabbit..... Mods, clean-up, aisle 9! |
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Amazing.
Pretty soon it's going to be illegal to discuss the First Amendment because it contains the word "religion" in it. |
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Ruh roh! You just said "religion". JavaMan's going to get you! |
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There's nothing wrong with showing a picture of Washington praying. Washington was religious and did pray. Big deal. Our "liberal" values are too distorted from sense.
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At least I can spell, punctuate, and capitalize, much better than you. How's it feel to be stupider than a "dumbass"? Fixed for grammar and punctuation. |
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Forgive me if I don't panic. |
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If you were to write an intelligent response worthy of an answer instead of one-line libtard "zingers" maybe you might see some real debate on the issue. I doubt that is your goal however. Do let us know when you have one of these uber-smart posts we are to become threatened by though. So far I've missed them. |
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I don't think that it is Washington praying so much as it is the cross formed by the trees above the horse's ass. That is BLATANT pushing of christianity. How dare they show that cross in our schools.
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So would you also agree with the schools that forbid teaching the Declaration of Independance because it says that "...All men are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights....." and a mention of a creator, ie GOD, is impermissable? Would you also support forbidding the teaching of the Constitution because it says "In the year of our lord" at the top? -K |
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