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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:47:59 PM EDT
What if some super major catastrophe just happened in your state/town/city/whatever. Something far worse than 9/11. But along the same lines. Dirty bomb, freakin earth quake, tsunami, etc. In other words, it is so big that it has the attention of damn near the entire world. Are you ready for survival mode? Or are you gonna be like most of those losers in New Orleans who were looking for a handout from Uncle Sam?
If you have to bug out, how are you going to carry all of your ammo? Food? Firearm(s)? Have you already made a decision on what stays and what goes with you? Or are ya just gonna play it by ear and go with it when it happens? Short of a nuclear/dirty bomb blast, I ain't goin' anywhere. My home is my castle and I ain't givin it up to nobody.  |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:50:32 PM EDT
[#1]
I didn't even plan to be born. How could I possibly plan for something like that?
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:50:34 PM EDT
[#2]
I need a large generator ... then I'll feel prepared. Otherwise, I'm probably reasonable prepared for a lot of unforseen events. |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:51:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Welcome to the Survival Forum!
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:51:16 PM EDT
[#4]
i am defintely buggin out.
in my 40 mpg car (hwy). fit me and the GF + food (3 weeks) + water (24 gallons) + ammo (lots) + guns (enough) + med supplies (goldschlager and duct tape) othere than that it completley METT-TC dependent sir. |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:53:53 PM EDT
[#5]
yup
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:54:17 PM EDT
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I don't mean to post in a survival forum thread. This is exactly why one should have only two calibers of weapons. One pistol caliber and one rifle caliber. That way ammo selection and transport is much easier.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:54:40 PM EDT
[#7]
The only thing I'm truly prepared for would be coming home to find 20 strippers in my bedroom.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:55:31 PM EDT
[#8]
Which is one reason why I have a P228 and a Colt AR-15 9mm. 
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:55:50 PM EDT
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LIAR!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:55:50 PM EDT
[#10]
BUG OUT! Along with millions of others on the 
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:56:41 PM EDT
[#11]
I've got Pop-Tarts and Gatorade.
Bring it on. |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:57:10 PM EDT
[#12]
Better than most. less than some.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:57:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Extra Kool Aid?????
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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:59:09 PM EDT
[#14]
Head for the hills.....they'll burn down whatever building you take refuge in.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:00:56 PM EDT
[#15]
Where I've moved to I'm FAR better off staying put. I have none of the worries that I did living in urban SoCal trapped with millions of panicked sheeple. The nearest city that any terrorist would have possibly targeted is almost 400 miles as the crow flies and the only realistic natural disasters that could befall me would be forest fires or blizzards.
 I'm still in the process of relocation so if TSHTF right now I'm in a world of hurt  but I should be settled in by March and ready to tie up the loose ends and have a plan and supplies in place.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:01:36 PM EDT
[#16]
I still have my y2k stash
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:05:33 PM EDT
[#17]
YES
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:07:25 PM EDT
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That's what I'm going to do. To save gas, I've got a 20 foot HEAVY chain, two bolts, two nuts and some Loctite. At the first opportunity I'll jump out and hook on to the vehicle in front of me and let him tow me. I've got the boltcutters for when we get to where I'm going.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:09:49 PM EDT
[#19]
To answer my own question - sort of. I need a generator, more drinking water (although I have a hand pump filter system), back pack stoves for boiling water, plenty of .308 ammo and 9mm. I have a lot of food stashed.
I figure if the sheeple neighbors decide to haul ass, I'll break into their homes and take what I need. Of course, when everything settles back to normal, and if they return, I'll reimburse them. If they don't, oh well. |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:11:37 PM EDT
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Beat me to it. All of us should have learned by now from recent events there will be NO BUGGING OUT. There will be no where to go. You had best plan for worst case, which is survive in your home, be it flooded or earthquaked in half. I cant say Im prepared but Ive got about maybe ...100rds of 9 and 100 of 5.56 plus we always have a gallon or two of water besides all the bottles constantly being drank. Can vegetables...more than an army can consume, only cuz they pile up in the back of the pantry cuz no one eats them 
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:13:14 PM EDT
[#21]
I live on high ground and have planned for a BI situation.
I've only catered for water/food and cooking equipment but I bet a fortune I'm the only one in my village to even have this bare essentials. most UK people have "head in the sand" syndrome. We have natural disasters here too, they forget all too easily. Taffy |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:14:53 PM EDT
[#22]
My ammo consists of over one thousand, .308 rounds. And around eight hundred, 9mm rounds.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:16:26 PM EDT
[#23]
you wanna be prepared. get 40 acres and a mule somewhere low key. stock it with 1 years worth of supplies. if you think you will have to get there via a highway, you wont. ever see a planned bugout from a hurricane area? one very slow moving (if at all) parking lot. you get something like a martian invasion your gonna have to walk unless you have a horse or mule...
so move to the bugout area ahead of time. guns and ammo be the last of your worries. once the gooks start coming over the wire your gonna get overrun sooner or later. best not to be there in the first place. be somewheres else... |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:16:40 PM EDT
[#24]
Me too. I'm still a novice, not a professional survivalist - but I hope to move up the ladder someday...
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:17:22 PM EDT
[#25]
Yep and it happens to me every year.
Hurricanes are great tests. |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:17:50 PM EDT
[#26]
Better check the date codes. 
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:18:25 PM EDT
[#27]
I'd rather go down fighting defending my home, versus running scared in a field or a forest.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:18:51 PM EDT
[#28]
You amateur!!! You're supposed to have ONE CALIBER handgun and a carbine of the SAME CALIBER so you only have to carry ONE KIND OF AMMO....sheesh...greenhands... 
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:19:28 PM EDT
[#29]
Prepared?
Son, I've been praying for that day most of my adult life. I honestly feel cheated that I missed out on Katrina. |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:21:20 PM EDT
[#30]
rofl posts like that are why I read threads like this |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:21:54 PM EDT
[#31]
Don't give up! It's coming soon, I believe. Not so much a catastrophe but, a Civil War of sorts. Too much tension between lebs and conservatives. Eventually it's gonna come to a head and explode. I'm just glad I belong to the group that likes guns.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:22:58 PM EDT
[#32]
Hahaha, move to Florida.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:23:55 PM EDT
[#33]
You'll go down very quickly. If you want to live through a calamity then you need to be able to move quiclky taking with you only that which is necessary and use what is available to compensate for what you need. Mobility+Adapatability=Survivability. (I just made that up!)
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:40:40 PM EDT
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Common Points Of Survival Failure
Bugging Out MOST people's immediate reply to a SHTF situation is "I'll head for the hills." The problem is that few are prepared to do so quickly enough, and even fewer have a viable destination. In many scenarios, you will have, at best, an hour or two from the initiation of the event until the roads are so clogged that you will never get anywhere. If you don't have your vehicle loaded with supplies, and fully fueled and maintained, chances are slim that you'll make it out, especially if you are in any urban or suburban area, which is where most folks live. And without a destination, you will likely end up in a federal evacuee camp, to be taken care of at the whim of FEMA or other officials. For examples of this, see the people in the Superdome and Convention Center in New Orleans during Katrina. And for those who plan to "rough it out in the woods", keep in mind that there will be tens of thousands of others trying to do the same thing, and many of those people will have no supplies or provisions, and won't be above stealing from you or even killing you to get what they need to survive. Bugging In For many, this is going to be the best choice for most situations, but you'd better have some alternate plans for this as well. Again, Katrina is one example that shows how people who chose to Bug In were killed in their own homes by floodwaters. Many natural distasters could make your home or Bug In location unusable and unsafe, and certainly that's also true of nuclear, chemical, or biological incidents near or upwind of your location. The bottom line is that you have to be prepared for BOTH situations, as well as for the fact that a delayed post-incident evacuation may be required ON FOOT, carrying all of the food and supplies you need. All of this is a lot to consider, but better to think through your situation NOW and come up with several different plans, both for Bug In and Bug Out. If you put your head in the sand today, you'll be too late when the time comes. -Troy |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 3:42:01 PM EDT
[#35]
Bunker is ready for a Bug In.
Secondary Bunker is ready for Bug Out. |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 4:20:00 PM EDT
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The 3 of us (bro, his wife, and I) have a neat little place (owned by my sis, who lives in the PRK) a few miles from us... 9 miles off the pavement... HUGE water tank... can't be seen from the nearest road unless you know just where to look.
Good point though... need to buy & fill several gas cans... it's a deeeep electric-powered well... He's LDS so he's got his food stuff together. |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 4:32:15 PM EDT
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Generator - Check
Back-up Generator - Check Solar - Check Primary weapons - Check Secondary weapons - Check Handouts - Check Ammunition and ammo caches - Check Reliable, trusted persons to operate said weapons - Check Fuel storage tanks - Check Food - Check Water - Check Water filtration - Check Water storage - Check Water purification (chemical) - Check Trained Medical Personel - Check Medical supplies - Check Bug-in Location - Check Bug-out Location - Check Alternate bug-out site - Check Aircraft - Check Ground transport - Check Water transport - Check Tools, spare parts and knowledge required to serivce modes of transport - Check Toilet paper - Check Deadwood, The Sopranos, The Wire, BSG, and complete DVD Librabry - Check. Beer- Check Popcorn - Check Sheep |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 4:37:12 PM EDT
[#38]
to camp about 4 1/2 hours north of portland maine its so remote they dont even name the towns up there
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Posted: 2/23/2006 4:40:46 PM EDT
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My MP company deployed to Biloxi, MS for Katrina relief. Believe it or not, very few people were actually prepared, no food, no water, no gas, no ammo. If you have to stockpile one thing, I would choose gas or diesel, we drove down from up north and the fuel started running out around TN. If you have a working car, you can drive around and get food, water, ect. One group that was prepared was the mormons, I stopped by a temple and there were 75 tents set up in the front yard. The mens group leader had their ward organized and were handing out food, water and medecine.
Our first patrol I stopped by an upscale neiborhood in a nearby city and the homeowners had walled it off and were guarding it with shotguns. I nodded to them and they nodded back, those people who say you don't need a gun for defense will never be able to use that argument again. The two things that were in great demand was gas and water. But for a while, a lot of stuff was in short supply: batteries, dip, tobacco, beer, soda. When I could find diet coke I would buy a couple cases. It's a just in time world and without trucks dropping goods off every day everything runs short after a while. |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 4:48:52 PM EDT
[#40]
From home I can walk to my airplane in 20 minutes and drive there in just over three. The plane is always fueled and the airport is uncontroled so I can leave at will. I have two destinations in the Idaho back country, one inhabited by friends the other uninhabited. In a true SHTF situation few others in the area will be able to get out by air as fast as I can if at all due to roads being gridlocked. I suspect my family would have it pretty easy. Running water at both locations. Supplies ready to go. I do need some good gas masks and that iodine for radiation poisoning. Planerench out.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 4:49:55 PM EDT
[#41]
None of this crap is a priority anyway. -Troy |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 6:22:53 PM EDT
[#42]
I have enough guns and ammo to get everything else I will need.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 6:28:39 PM EDT
[#43]
Yup.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 6:31:35 PM EDT
[#44]
Like dead? Instant khrama from 150 yards at +2700 ft.sec. |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 6:32:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Same here. I'm working on it. I have the wife on board now too so that makes it easier. |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 6:36:00 PM EDT
[#46]
Just got my Lula loader, and a new can opener. I'm set.
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Posted: 2/23/2006 6:39:00 PM EDT
[#47]
Every one that's saying they need a generator also needs to look at long term and large gas/whatever the genny runs on
Katrina showed that and a fully loaded Generator seems to use about 1-2 gallons an hour Barry |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 6:40:56 PM EDT
[#48]
No matter how much you have, you can always refine.
Already working on ver. 2.0 of the BOB, and always trying to improve first aid preps. Food stocks are always being rotated. Lots of good stuff in the SF if you haven't checked there yet. |
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Posted: 2/23/2006 6:41:25 PM EDT
[#49]
+2000
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Posted: 2/23/2006 6:43:48 PM EDT
[#50]
Looking at the Katrina example...
I am thinking the only thing bug-outtable (short of an airplane) would have been some dual purpose motorcycle. Good on gas, fast and you can go in the woods if needed. |
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