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Posted: 2/22/2006 12:12:28 PM EDT
www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-11230-2nd+hand+electronics+sales+will+soon+be+illegal+in+Japan.html Dang, wonder if that applies to all the old tube audio equipment that's been collected by Japanese audiophiles over the last 50 years. I'd love for there to be a glut of that stuff on e-bay! I spent four years taking the trains up to Akihabara shopping the top-of-the-line stuff |
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... time to start looking for that Nikon D1X I've been wanting....
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Ain't that the Goddamn truth. |
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Who are we to argue Japanese semanticals? |
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This is just like Japan though. Things like this are systemic.
They want to keep their construction companies busy... so they're constantly doing public works projects at the cost of billions a year... They did something similar to this electronic thing with their automobile policy as well. Now electronics. keeripes... I think Japan is one of the coolest countries around (never been there though)... but these kind of government domination laws are just awful. |
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Oh yeah, this is gonna go over well with the general populace.
On the flipside, keep a heads up for second-hand Japanese electronics soon to be flooding ebay and other online auction sites. |
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Which will then reduce the exports from the manufacturers. And do worse things for their economy. |
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Unintended consequences are a real bugger!! |
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they must be taking a hint from the ethanol mandates in the US.
Screw the consumer, prop up the lobbyists who give you campaign cash. |
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Yeah, IIRC they already do a similar things with cars, by making it damn near impossible to legally own and drive a vehicle more than a couple years old.
Because of this there is a thriving industry exporting the better parts from barely used vehicles that have become unaffordable to keep due to the regulations. |
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I remember when the RIAA was whining and saying that reselling music CDs should be illegal because they werent seeing any profits from them either.
Fuck them. |
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If you're careful you can get cheap used engines from Japan for Nissans, Datsuns, Toyotas etc.
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Wrong Fracking Thread for that language, man. |
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I'm trying to clean up my language a bit. No, I will NOT be adopting "felgercarb". |
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This is a really good example why everything on the Internet should not be taken as the truth.
This law only applies to certain products (vending machines, electric water heaters, TVs, fridges and such) that aren't approved for the PSE (Product Safety、Electrical Appliance & Materials ) mark. I live in Japan presently due to work. I live in company housing which comes furnished. After checking most of the electrical appliance's in my house, I can't find even one with out the PSE mark on it.
The law states the reason as to stop injury and death by substandard electronics.
Quite contrary to what I have experienced.
First it is every car, not used cars. Don't know where that price came from. It doesn't say what class of car so I'll assume that it is a middle sized one. One Euro is about $0.8 so that makes the price range between $1200 and $2800 WW I saved myself a lot of money just by choosing the first garage that came up on Google. Only $700 with 3 years of tax and insurance included! If I just want the car checked, only about $200.
Yet again total The first result on Google gives free estimates and if you don't want repair work done, they won't do it.
All of my 8 neighbours except one in the street where I live have cars at least 5 years old, one is a 1986 model. Wow, they all must have bribed the officials to pass their old cars, should I rat them out Link to the law, in Japanese though. |
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IPod aleady had this by simply having a non-replaceable battery. Who needs laws when you have designed-in short term failure?
Microsoft does the same thing. A couple years after the item is released it is non-compatible with damn near anything. The f-ing mudslide of too soon obsolete techno-crap out of my house to the landfill alone makes me wonder WTF is up. Even the local thrift shop won't accept fully operational Sony Trinitrons and/or 3 year old computers that went for thousands at purchase. That Xbox 360 has less than 5 year useful life when you overpay for it on Ebay. F that. I'm buying good old GUNS. What's a Colt Single Action going for today, or a Barrett post-Hitlery? |
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Akihabara is an electronics paradise. They usually have stuff there a full year before we see it. Sometimes they catch on here, sometimes not. Anyone remember mini-discs? I didn't think so. They are mini cd's in a little cartridge.They are about 2.5 inches sqaure with a little cd inside. They hold all the music of a regular cd, but you can fit more in your car stereo. My little brother had one, but they never caught on and weren't supported here.
And the cars and parts, don't get me started on those. The Skyline GT-R, available in Japan for decades, may finally come here in '08. The integra Type R, Civic Type R, NSX Type R, Silvia, all awesome cars that we will never see here. |
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wrong thread frack head |
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I suspect Japan has a thriving black market in all things deemed illegal - auto engines over 100k miles, guns, and now electronics. Why do you think the Japanese government can enter their homes to inspect for "safety" issues at any time day or night?
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I am not aware of that feature in Japanese law, are you confusing it with England perhaps? |
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+1 Basically same as the US, the police need to have a warrant from a judge or probable cause. And what's the bit about auto engines over 100k miles? ETA As for electronics, please refer to my post at the bottom of page one. |
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Thank you thank you It's surprising how much I read on this board is are total lies or lies with a bit of truth mixed in. When I read stuff like "There are no accurate textbooks in that country(Not true BTW)" posted by university professors who I highly respect and most of the time post very interesting and good stuff, it makes me wonder if a lot of the stuff that I think is true is actually not. |
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I just emailed one of my friends in Japan. He has never heard of this but is checking around. He commented it would be unenforceable.
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The reason the mini CDs can hold all the music of a regular CD is because the miniCD uses lossy compression. This means some of the audio data is dropped when mastered compared to a regular CD master. The actual sound quality of a miniCD is not the same as a regular CD. They can be likened to mp3s, they sound ok, but definitely not the real deal. |
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Actually this is quite interesting. It shows a major flaw in the so-called free market capitalist system. Actually nothing to do with money but rather Product and demand. For example, In Business 101 they teach that (ideally anyway) that Capitalism produces the "best products at the lowest prices" but that actually goes contrary to typical Consumerism. Two contradictory forces working in the same market place. For example take light bulbs. If a compnay made a light bulb that lasted forever then technically that would be the best product, but for who? The company? They'd go out of business once they sold everyone in the world a bulb and the demand collapsed as people no longer needed any more. Hence let me introduce to you the concept of "false economy" and "planned Obsolescence" This is where we create items for the sake of making money rather than for any good to the individual. So we create bulbs that intentionally burn out so people have to buy more. Japan in order to dominate the CAr market had to build a car that would last a lot longer than any other at a lower price. (evidently the Capitalist ideal) But demand would go down as people needed new cars less and less. You would literally be a victim of your own success. So? you pass a law making it economically unfeasable (false economy) to own an old car. Hence now that electronic items are going the same way of lasting longer they make a rule which in effect forces people to buy the latest gizmo rather than get a second hand item. Aint the free market Great? Oh ps IBTFMI
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Please refer to my post at the end of page one. Ghee, it's amazing how many people don't read all of the thread before posting |
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