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Posted: 2/21/2006 6:27:06 AM EDT
On FoxNews...they have agreed to revisit a decision concerning late term abortion.....now we shall see...
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I suspect that if they claim it can be banned, the pro-infanticide folks will riot in the streets.....
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Is that the same as a target rich environment? |
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Nothing on Fox's website yet but this is on CNN's:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/02/21/scotus.abortion.ap/index.html
This is the partial-birth abortion ban from 2003, yes?
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All abortion is outright murder |
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That is such a fucking abomination. I can't even express how evil that is. |
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Medically there's no such thing as a "partial-birth abortion." This is merely a term invented by the anti-abortion crowd to make it sound scary and horrifying. Just like the anti-gunners did with terms like "assault weapon," "Saturday Night Special," and "cop killer bullets."
Congratulations - you anti-abortionists have stooped down to the same level as Sarah Brady. How does it feel? |
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Feel fine. Alot better than I'd feel after pulling a child out between some skank's legs and crushing it's skull. |
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Bullshit! The procedure is totally different than a regular abortion. Pulling a babies head out of a vagina, sticking needle into the base of it's skull, scrambling the brains, then sticking the baby back in and the delivering it is murder plain and simple. |
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The only scary part is when people believe it's equivalent to wart removal. |
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Oh my God, if they decide against it, we might not be able to kill our babies! Oh the horror!
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Don't bother explaining it. They know the difference they simply want the unregulated ability to kill thier own, not only to do it, but to wait until late in the pregancy to do so. Who cares about the living feeling thing they are crushing, ripping, smashing. |
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Well, here is what I meant by my statement. Abortion and 2nd amendmend rights are two subjects that the SCOTUS HAVE NOT BEEN TOUCHING FOR YEARS, there is light at the end of the tunnel for our 2nd amendment rights. I choose not to throw my thoughts on abortion here, or anywhere for that matter. But on another note, guns don't kill people, but abortion clinics /doctors do. |
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Well Said. +1 |
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I feel like lighting up a cigarette. |
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Actually, it would be a MAJOR victory for states rights. Precedence would be set that would allow a state to place a limit on abortion. I would hope that this would allow Roe to be struck down, allowing states to legislate abortion as they wish. |
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edited at thread posters request in light of proper context. |
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I'll tell you what: Even though I am pro-life under all but the most restricted circumstances, I'd be happy if the "constitutionality" of this "right" was debunked, once and for all. It isn't, and never was. Some states will ban it. Others won't. That's a far better state of affairs (and much more constitutional) than the farce we have now. |
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Yeah. Because being against a procedure where a VIABLE fetus is partially extracted from the womb so his or her skull can be split open and his or her brains sucked out makes us crazy people who are just out to stomp on people's freedom..... Crimony. You need help. |
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See my second post, then edit your first please. |
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Actually this is a Federal ban that's being argued. I'd prefer to see it be a state law myself, but it is hard to see this as anything but plain 'ol murder and many states sitting on their hands while viable humans are being smashed to death or impaled in the head invites the Feds to act. I may not be a hardcore anti-abortion person. My view is early on that it is immoral and wrong, but I could live with it's existance in the first few days and weeks. This is however outright barberism and inhumanity. I can't even understand how a person can live with performing such a thing. |
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I'm gonna have give you a big +1 on this. Late term abortion is horrible. The idea that a fetus is partially delivered, is moving its arms and legs and all that, could just as easily go into an incubator, but the mother decides to inject clorox into its head is morally bankrupt. Doctors should refuse to perform this procedure. I couldn't imagine being the one that does it. How much money is worth it? |
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Ask the baby having it's head crushed that question. I wish you pro abortionist ghouls would at least have the common fucking decency to call it what it is....murder for convenience. I call a spade a spade and a ghoulish fucktard a ghoulish fucktard. How's that feel? SG |
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+1. If killing a 9-month-old baby is wrong, killing a 1-day-old baby is wrong. |
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Crap, your right. I read the article wrong.
I'm not so sure. There is no sweeping federal "murder" law. If you kill a federal employee, yeah, but federal law does not bar all murder. I feel that this should ONLY be a state issue. I guess this could eventually be another (overly broad) interstate commerce ruling since people would cross state lines to get abortions. What a mess. |
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That depends on your definition of "baby..." I'd love to see a scientific debate on viability instead of the hysterics you see on both sides. |
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Well... I'm also not sure, but feds can intervene if for instance a state decides that killing latinos is no longer murder and can be freely done by anyone without punishment as long as you do it by jabbing a hole into their head and ripping the brains out. Perhaps this is along those lines. |
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LTA's suck but then I feel those likely to seek an abortion probabaly shouldn't be reproducing in the first place. I'm inclined to let it be the woman's decision. I don't think I want the .gov wasting my time and tax dollars on this and I don't want to see political battles on this subject taking time and resources away from more important issues.
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are you serious, man? a baby that is killed in late term is viable. Hell, babies that are born premature are growing it to healthy kids. WTF, over |
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Why? Kalifornia would most likely become the lead abortion supplier in the western U.S., which would mean big bucks and more taxes. It's all about money for those scumbags, anyway. |
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Quoted:
LTA's suck but then I feel those likely to seek an abortion probabaly shouldn't be reproducing in the first place. I'm inclined to let it be the woman's decision. I don't think I want the .gov wasting my time and tax dollars on this and I don't want to see political battles on this subject taking time and resources away from more important issues.[/quote] Could you please cite a more important issue than murdering humans? You can call them fetuses, or you can call them babies, or you can call them just about anything you desire to help ease the moral shock....doesn't change the fact that they are humans and they are being slaughtered. |
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right on, pcsutton |
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How often does LTA occur? And is it ever done when not *medically* necessary?
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I'm not in favor of late term abortions unless there is a strong medical need. If there is a good chance that the woman will die before/during giving birth however, I think it should be her decision.
I also not in favor of rhetorical terms such as "Partial Birth Abortion" for late term abortions, or "Abortionist" for medical doctor. Ed |
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Why not? You "partially birth" the baby to gain access to the head to destroy the baby's brain, but not so far as to create a "live birth" which would forbid you from performing the abortion. Seems to be a perfect description of the process to me. |
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And a 9mm semi-automatic pistol is a weapon that can be used to assault someone, therefore it is an "assault weapon" right ? |
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Only if it is ACTUALLY used in an assault. You're comparing a theoretical with a factual. |
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Gee talk about hair splitting. So how about "abortionist" instead of medical doctor? My point is that using rhetoric with anyone who can see past it hurts your cause rather than help it. I'm not against your ideas, just trying to help get your point across. I shut down completly when I hear of someone talking about "Saturday Night Specials" as I know that it will do no good to try to have an intelligent conversation. I'm just suggesting that sticking to factual language instead of rhetoric can help you be more convincing in an argument to win someone over to your side. |
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I'm not into rhetorical terms such as "Medical Doctor" for Abortionist. Isn't sucking out the brain of a human being considered assault? Following your logic, one would have to add "assault" to anything that can be used to assault a person...'assault abortionist', 'assault tire iron', 'assault bottle', 'assault toothbrush', 'assault squirt gun', 'assault spray paint can', 'assault medical doctor', 'assault dead kitty'....ad nauseum. By definition, 'late term abortions' means killing a viable human being. Said human being can be surgically delivered and survive. The Mother isn't going to die by having a baby surgically delivered. Y'all are grasping at straws. |
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Who is splitting hairs? A doctor who performs abortions is an abortionist, just as a doctor who performs cardiac surgery is a cardiac surgeon. If a man commits murder, he is a murderer. Just because someone MIGHT commit murder, however, doesn't make him one.
I would agree with you, and the example you cite is perfect. The "Saturday Night Special" is a term coined by opponents of guns for the specific purpose of misleading others. However, the term "abortionist", as I describe above, is perfectly legitimate based upon specific actions done by certain people. It's why the pro-abortion side hates the term; it's the TRUTH, and they know it. We can argue how the Saturday Night Special is a construct of an opinion. They cannot argue against the title "abortionist". |
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How does it feel being a Hitlery Klinton social agenda supporting dipshit? www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/diagram.html |
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