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Posted: 2/18/2006 10:59:20 AM EDT
[#1]
What's the pitch of the roof? Pics?
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Posted: 2/18/2006 10:59:49 AM EDT
[#2]
Should have just told him, "Well, ok, thanks for stopping by 'chicken'"
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:00:03 AM EDT
[#3]
Find cheap immigrant labor.
They roof houses that Americans won't roof. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:00:13 AM EDT
[#4]
I tell some people that who want me to install wireless internet antennas way up there, but only in the winter when the roof is covered in ice. Metal roofs are always off limits though.
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:00:51 AM EDT
[#5]
Yes what is the pitch of the roof?
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:01:35 AM EDT
[#6]
Why so? |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:02:27 AM EDT
[#7]
straight up and down. is that normal? it's less than 45 deg. what is normal? |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:03:45 AM EDT
[#8]
Just a wild guess but maybe because he deals with electricity? |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:07:43 AM EDT
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To put things in perspective, the two other very reliable roofing companies made no mention of it, nor did they add some sort of "steep roof surcharge"
At least this wuss could have said "wow, that's steep, I'll need to charge extra" |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:08:58 AM EDT
[#10]
Metal roofs are a lot more slippery than "normal" shingled roofs. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:09:52 AM EDT
[#11]
Yep, and because they are slick when wet, icy, or covered in snow. I dont have a problem with metal roofs at all, as long as the homeowner springs for a rhino-lining for the entire roof. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:10:09 AM EDT
[#12]
Varies, the roof on my house is a 6-12 pitch. That means for every foot in length the roof raises 6 inches. Alot of houses have a 4-12 pitch. When you get into the 9-12 through 12-12 range, you get some steep roofs.... |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:10:21 AM EDT
[#13]
+1 I see them on jobsites all the time taking risks and doing stuff like that we Americans wont do anymore. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:12:06 AM EDT
[#14]
My brother's an ironworker. Americans do those jobs too. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:12:07 AM EDT
[#15]
It does cost more the steeper your roof is. mmk |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:12:13 AM EDT
[#16]
it's certainly less than 12-12 either way, the guy is a freaking roofer. it's not like I was asking the tile guy for a quote. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:12:47 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Find cheap immigrant labor. They roof houses that Americans won't roof. [/quoteLOL, but true |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:15:49 AM EDT
[#18]
Wasn't European was he?, they have laws about misbent bannanas, and to curvey cucumbers, so I too steep roof wouldn't surprise me....
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:23:31 AM EDT
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I've heard several builders say roofing has gone way up because of the hurricanes, there is so much work, they can almost name their price, and it makes sense, at least for the coastal states. Are you getting yours fixed because of damage, or it's just that time? Because if you could put it off for a little while it may be cheaper, when the roofing business slows down. Just a suggestion, also what is the approx sq ft of your roof? My house is 2800sq ft, one story, it cost me 4200 about 3 years ago, and that was with 3d looking shingles.
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:24:15 AM EDT
[#20]
Allow me to rephrase. I watched the Ironworkers (Local 86) set the upper overhang trusses on the new Seattle Library.  They had harnesses and safety gear, training and are getting paid $80-100K per year. I see the illegals do homebuilding everyday and do roofing and the sort for $6-8 an hour. Americans wont do the menial work for minimum pay. Thats the point I meant to convey. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:29:43 AM EDT
[#21]
I don't think I can afford an iron roof
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:30:31 AM EDT
[#22]
You should move to Texas. Metal roofs are so hot that your shoes melt and stick to them and we never get any rain, ice or snow. 
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:46:35 AM EDT
[#23]
I've shingled 12x12 pitch. It was fun and scary but mostly fun.
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:49:45 AM EDT
[#24]
The nice part aboput a 12 pitch is you can stand upright on the roof jacks, and still be able to reach the roof to nail shingles. A real back saver. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:50:17 AM EDT
[#25]
How big of a company does he have. I have turned down doing a couple of roofs before since they were too steep. Now, if I had a gradall, it would have been a different story. I only had a 3 man crew at that time.
Sometimes it just depends on what kind of equipment people have available to them. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:51:35 AM EDT
[#26]
Do steeper pitched roofs last longer?
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:54:13 AM EDT
[#27]
THey are better where it snows alot. Flatter roofs hold more snow, and therefore more weight. Having lots of weight over your head while you are sitting in your house is a bad thing. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 12:02:00 PM EDT
[#28]
NoVaGator how many square is your roof?
square = every ten X ten foot area Any valley's? pics would help. I might know of a good crew close to you who could save you a ton. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 12:10:10 PM EDT
[#29]
$10K to roof a house, must be a BIG house.
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Posted: 2/18/2006 12:24:17 PM EDT
[#30]
I don't know exactly how many sq ft....although the estimates that I have specify 50 and 54 sheets of CDX. That's why the number is high....I need new decking and plywood is really expensive these days. Not many valleys. If it was just shingles, this would be a $6k job |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 12:38:41 PM EDT
[#31]
Your roof is a little under 17 sq. Depending on valley's and pitch 10 too 12 K is too high. You have a digital camera? Edited to add: That comes out to $705.00 a sq. Even with redecking and the old roof tear off it's out of line. Thats a two day job for a crew of 3 or 4. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 12:44:57 PM EDT
[#32]
Does the pope have a funny hat? I'll take some pics |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 12:59:26 PM EDT
[#33]
OK the first pic is the "complicated" side of the roof:
 The second pic is a profle shot that also shows a small porch portion as well as size of the opposite side of the roof:  Note that the opposite side only has one vent pipe. As you can see, this is a 12-12 roof or less |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:00:34 PM EDT
[#34]
I had a guy come out to do a wireless survey. The job involves mounting an antenna to an object of sufficient height to obtain at least visual line of sight to a distant tower. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this involves going up on a roof at a minimum. So the guy shows up.
ME: "Where's your climbing gear? You're not going to climb my tower without it are you?" INSTALLER: "Climb your tower? No way. We don't do that." ME:  "Okay, I guess you could try it from the roof, but I don't think you'll hit anything"INSTALLER: "What? No, I'm not going up on the roof." ME:  "Dude, you can't see the tower from the ground, and you know as well as I do that 2.4GHz needs at least visual line of site."INSTALLER: "Can you go up on your roof?" ME:  "WTF? Are you afraid of heights or something? God damnit, give me your gear." |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:02:06 PM EDT
[#35]
12-12's are cake for roofing, but a little tough to put sheathing down.
The only time I have been scared was on putting sheathing on a home with a 20-12. Spooky. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:02:34 PM EDT
[#36]
Find another roofer. Jesus, what a bunch of pussies. *I* would climb that, and I'm not a roofer. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:08:18 PM EDT
[#37]
He didn't need the work.
Maybe he would have jumped on it if it were a 4/12 ranch, but he doesn't need to take any jobs he doesn't like the look of, so he doesn't. Maybe he just doesn't like to wear a harness, who knows? His choice. Why does it bother you? you just did a job interview, and the applicant took a look at the job and said he wasn't interested, no biggie. Next! |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:12:29 PM EDT
[#38]
it doesn't "bother" me....I just think he's a pussy and I would expect a roofer to be comfortable working on any roof within reason. And if he didn't need the work, why did he event bother to stop by? It's not like he lives around the corner. He came from about 20 mi away on a Saturday. Maybe he found out that my wife is a construction attorney. 
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:19:02 PM EDT
[#39]
If that's your whole roof, I will come and do it for $9k...
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:25:39 PM EDT
[#40]
You're part of the problem. Encouraging illegal immigrants is flat out STUPID. You're saying "Screw my fellow Americans! I want to give my money to TRESPASSERS!" I'm the extreme reverse. I won't make a deal with even a lawn service if they don't attest, in writing, that EVERY LAST ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE US CITIZENS. I will not do business with ANY company that hires goddamned illegal aliens, PERIOD!!! No true American would. CJ |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:27:39 PM EDT
[#41]
Has anyone explained to you why you need to replace the plywood ? Your house isn't that old.
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:31:15 PM EDT
[#42]
alquila.
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:33:49 PM EDT
[#43]
Improper/inadequate ventilation. It's all cathedral ceilings inside. There's no attic so the inside wallboard is affixed to the joists on one side...and the roof deck is on the other side. We're installing Smart Vent in the fascia behind the gutter to remedy this. To clarify....I'm replacing the decking because it's in bad shape. I'm doing the Smart Vent to add ventilation to prevent the deck from rotting again |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:39:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:45:54 PM EDT
[#45]
You've been here long enough to know that I am being sarcastic. Lets all get pissy because i refuse to use a sarcastic smiley. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:49:33 PM EDT
[#46]
That product does not necessitate an entire replacement of the plywood unless you are also installing baffles above the insulation to allow air flow to the ridge. Is that what is being done here? |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:52:46 PM EDT
[#47]
The existing decking is already soft and sagging in numerous spots as a result of 20 yrs of inadequate ventilation. We're adding the Smart Vent so it hopefully doesn't happen again. ETA: currently there is ZERO ventialtion at the eaves. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:53:22 PM EDT
[#48]
Yeah, but somebody might have taken you seriously. And really, without some form of visual cue, how can someone be sure of your sarcastic tone of voice? Or typing style? Yeah, use the appropriate smileys. It DOES help to reduce misunderstandings. CJ |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 2:08:04 PM EDT
[#49]
My house is due for a new roof, as someone double-layered the shingles 15 years ago. I believe the pitch is 4/12 and there are no valleys. I'm going to do mine myself in the next couple of months (I've helped others on two roofs), and figure it at about 18 squares. My father (a retired sheetmetal journeyman) is trying to convince me to put a metal roof on it. Either way, I'll be out less than $2K and it will be done in a weekend.
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Posted: 2/18/2006 2:10:02 PM EDT
[#50]
The pricing you quoted in the beginning sounds fair to me given the complexity of the job. As you probably know a "good" price can bite you in the ass. Get everything in writing, don't assume anything, get references and followup on checking them out. Make damn sure he gives you a certificate of insurance naming you as being insured and not just an insurance binder. Talk to his insurance company named on the certificate and make sure he is more than covered to do this job. Good luck and be prepared for bad weather.
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