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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:13:40 PM EDT
[#1]
If the offending threat is equiped with FA. and your squad is not equipped with FA. Your squad will most likely fail.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:14:19 PM EDT
[#2]
This should be entertaining...
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:15:35 PM EDT
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The highligted part is really more appropriate to video games than real life, in my experience. Full auto is not really THAT important, in my opinion. The application where it was important during my military training was for urban assault and house clearing, but for the vast majority of military application, AIMED semi-auto was the way to go. If you are talking about some kinf og SHTF or TEOTWAWKI scenario, where you will not be resupplied by a friendly sergeant, then aimed semi-auto fire becomes even more important. I'd like to have full auto, but I don't really ever anticipate any real NEED for it, even if my craziest fantasies/nightmares. 
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:15:39 PM EDT
[#4]
I agree
 I want an FA cross bow. 
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:16:04 PM EDT
[#5]
Tagged.
Popcorn....check Drink....check |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:16:50 PM EDT
[#6]
Spend your money on practice ammo. Full-auto fire from magazine fed rifles has its place, but it is not that far superior to semi fire, especially if you spent the savings on shoting classes and practice ammo.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:17:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Get the semi, get some training, and until then, don't worry about it.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:17:42 PM EDT
[#8]
The A-Team had full auto rifles and they never hit anybody! |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:18:29 PM EDT
[#9]
GET BACK IN YOUR LANE! |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:18:46 PM EDT
[#10]
Hell No!
A SAW gunner may round out a combat unit well. But in the Civilian scenario, full auto is a complete waste of ammo under 99% of the realistic combat scenarios. The only time it might be handy is if your postition is being overrun. But then you're already fucked big time. Aimed fire has always ruled the fight; especially if the odds are stacked against you. WELL AIMED FIRE will beat a slew of full auto fire every day of the week! |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:19:02 PM EDT
[#11]
No. FA is only effective with combined arms trained as a squad element.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:19:13 PM EDT
[#12]
No. Full auto is cheaper than teaching everybody how to shoot.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:19:28 PM EDT
[#13]
I've fired an MP5... IMO FA weapons are needs for Zombie outbreaks.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:20:49 PM EDT
[#14]
No.
But it's fun! |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:21:07 PM EDT
[#15]
An invasion on US soil would most likely be won by deer rifles and not so called AW's.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:21:23 PM EDT
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You will be fine. I once had a mini 14 and sks as my primary weapons and Iwas just as lethal then as I am now with ARs and an M1A. The deadliest weapon on the battlefield is one well aimed shot.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:21:46 PM EDT
[#17]
About as entertaining as members of the 82nd Airborne doing gay porn?
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:22:36 PM EDT
[#18]
I have a headache now.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:23:31 PM EDT
[#19]
Yes!! TRASH HEAP. I agree. M98's and Rem 700's will be very needed for homeland invasion.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:24:15 PM EDT
[#20]
That's f'ed up. |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:24:31 PM EDT
[#21]
 How long before hollyweird makes a movie about that. We gave you broke butt mountain...Now we give you____________________ |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:24:53 PM EDT
[#22]
Whatever turns you on... |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:25:01 PM EDT
[#23]
Hip waders.....Check |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:25:34 PM EDT
[#24]
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:26:53 PM EDT
[#25]
Full-auto is always more fun than semi-auto.
Full-auto also sounds cooler than semi-auto. I vote for full-auto. And magnum. I want full-auto-magnum for self defence. With a fluted barrel and ACOG. |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:27:45 PM EDT
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Oh,Oh,Oh
Don't forget the 50bmg which can kill someone from 10 miles away. It's true, ask Sen. Fineswine (D) Cal. |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:28:17 PM EDT
[#27]
Dude, thats not cool. I am sure that 82ndAbn was hard up for cash and was desperate. Let's let him put this behind him and move on! |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:29:26 PM EDT
[#28]
That's reassuring. I think I will be fine, then. I have some high-quality magazines for the mini 14, and I think I should get a nice ammo vest with lots of pockets, to hold all the magazines. Then I'll be all set. |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:29:42 PM EDT
[#29]
If i"m gonna shoot a BG, attacking me in the open, I'm going to shoot him 3-5 times anyway.
WHy not do it with a burst? |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:30:10 PM EDT
[#30]
1) When you are fighting someone with armored vehicles, air cover. tanks,mortars and full auto heavy caliber weapons it won't matter if you have an M4 or 30/30 2) The good news is no one other than the US could muster the logistics to get all that junk over here. 3) We will fall from unchecked immigration and internal fifth columnists. Not a miltary invasion. hopefully it's not too late. |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:30:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:31:31 PM EDT
[#32]
WOLVERINES!
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:32:21 PM EDT
[#33]
I say no, if we are invaded 95% of my shooting is going to be from no less then 300 yards, more then likely at over 500 yards, I doubt if I'd fire more then 2 shots without moving positions. An AR at close range would ONLY be used if I am stuck and cannot run.
Im not getting killed if I can help it, hell im not in the militery nobodys giving me any orders my only objective will be kill as many enemy as possible each day from as far as possible. I always was a bit curious, I wonder how big a hole .300 Mag will put. I figure if I shoot once, and if everybody takes cover I can move locations and attack again in an hour or so. If some are still in the open fire a second time and then retreat. I wont be sitting at my house trying to defend it, more then likely my family will have evacuated if possible, so I'll be moving around playing sniper and giving emm hell. Of course if possible I will pick up all enemys supplies and weapons, even after its all over I could always sell the weapons I pick up. I think this is sorta a situation everybody here has been waiting their entire lives for .
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:33:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Wow, that just depressed me. 
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:49:26 PM EDT
[#35]
military invasion?
By WHO? China doesn't have the capability to project its power, and even when it does 20 years down the road, who's to say their regime wouldn't have softened up with the huge influx of trade and wealth? Also, the American military isn't going to be stepping down from the top any time soon. I'd say, FA isn't absolutely needed... In most situations having a high cyclic rate semi auto can be just as good as having FA. CQB would be a nice time to have FA capability though, haha |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:50:33 PM EDT
[#36]
Think a civil war. Against La Raza in the southwest, or an open civil war between competing factions of American gov't. |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:54:58 PM EDT
[#37]
Yes, La Raza armed by Hugo Chavez.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:57:24 PM EDT
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China is pretty dangerous though, they have the man power, how much bigger is there militery then ours? I dont think they are as good as Americas Militery but they have a hell of alot of people, if they team up with another country they could be a problem (North Korea would join them for sure).
But I seriously doubt if any country would be crazy enough to invade us. China will prolly end up invading some other country though, they are running out of space to put people. Just IMHO. USA being invaded = suiside for enemy. Fighting the government? Not any time soon. I'd say SHTF and TEOTWAWKI wont happen any time soon, we are just nuts |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:59:04 PM EDT
[#39]
Who ever said fighting the gov't? I said a civil war between two competing factions. Just because America hasn't had a war over election results, doesn't mean it won't ever. Notice how more and more and more elections become contested? Eventually, we will see a "bleeding kansas" crop up. |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:05:34 PM EDT
[#40]
I just KNEW I'd catch hell over this crap! Rat bastards. 
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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:10:10 PM EDT
[#41]
I agree with a lot of this. I think it'd be more like the liberals get control again, give that control to the UN, then use our own tax money to bring foreign equipment and troops here. If it isn't stopped as soon as it starts to happen, we're sunk. |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:14:58 PM EDT
[#42]
if you want to be a good rifleman and be able to fight off any threat to our country I suggest you join the military. |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:15:29 PM EDT
[#43]
What? You are aware that India is something like a third the size of China, right? |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:15:40 PM EDT
[#44]
Nope - FA not necessary.
Besides - by using my my semi-auto, I will be obtaining some full-auto weapons anyway. |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:16:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:24:06 PM EDT
[#46]
I hope so . . .. all we need is a good excuse. 
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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:26:27 PM EDT
[#47]
You guys missed his really important points to wit:
But would I survive if I joined the militia to fight off the invaders, or would I be dead meat if I didn't have a full automatic for suppressing fire? Yes and Yes Your militia platoon sgt will be responsible for suppressing fire.  You didn't think you were going to start at the top did you? You'll be a mess cook for the first few years.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:30:27 PM EDT
[#48]
 Son, is the Pope a Catholic?
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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:34:12 PM EDT
[#49]
On a personal rifle? No.
On a SAW? Yes. Just my opinion. |
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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:38:20 PM EDT
[#50]
Full Auto owner here and I would take a semi over a full auto any day. They have there place but I like to place my shots and save the ammo for the zombies when they come!
And they are comming!!! 
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