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Posted: 8/8/2001 6:26:26 PM EDT
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If it manages to hit between the panels, maybe.
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Posted: 8/8/2001 6:58:50 PM EDT
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Yeah.
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Posted: 8/8/2001 7:08:16 PM EDT
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A 22LR fired will penetrate a USGI flack vest, but that is due to the small size of the round and the fact that the weave on the USGI vest is much looser than a standard vest.
I doubt it will do a regual under the shirt vest... I have an old panel, I will try on my netx trip to the range. |
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Posted: 8/8/2001 7:29:24 PM EDT
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I am no expert, but think any new Level 1 vest will stop a .22lr. I suspect most LEO's wear at least a Level IIa, which are rated to stop a .357 mag. I suppose if you were shot in the eye, the vest wouldn't stop it. Hopefully, somebody will set her straight about her mouse gun. It is better than nothing, but I wouldn't use it as my primary defense.
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Posted: 8/8/2001 8:10:29 PM EDT
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Also, Tomcats have very snappy, uncomfortable muzzle flip, due to the blowback action. By comparison, the Kel-Tec P32 (a Browning locked-breech design) is far more mild, even though it's about a quarter of the weight, and smaller in all dimensions. I'd rather shoot .454 than my Tomcat, and since I got the P32, the Tomcat is collecting dust.
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Posted: 8/9/2001 12:31:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: ... .32 Berretta .... I was trying to explain Sanow's 1 shot stop ratio. And how ineffective certain rounds are. Or could be in given situation. Problem with that angle is the 32 ACP in ball ammo has about the same stop ratio as 45 ACP. |
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Posted: 8/9/2001 2:44:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: ... .32 Berretta .... I was trying to explain Sanow's 1 shot stop ratio. And how ineffective certain rounds are. Or could be in given situation. Problem with that angle is the 32 ACP in ball ammo has about the same stop ratio as 45 ACP. ??hmmm?? If that is so then at least you have bullet mass and diameter working for you. And probably only when talking fmj ammo. |
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Posted: 8/9/2001 2:55:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: Also, Tomcats have very snappy, uncomfortable muzzle flip, due to the blowback action. By comparison, the Kel-Tec P32 (a Browning locked-breech design) is far more mild, even though it's about a quarter of the weight, and smaller in all dimensions. I'd rather shoot .454 than my Tomcat, and since I got the P32, the Tomcat is collecting dust. -Troy Thank you Troy, This is what i was trying to say earlier. Smaller gun will have more recoil than a slightly larger gun shooting a more potent round due to the mass of the gun and the type of action of the slide. And more area in you hand being used to absorb the recoil. Del |
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Posted: 8/9/2001 3:11:27 AM EDT
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A .22 cop killer bullet would do the trick. I'm sure its high velocity and teflon coating could penetrate an M1 Abrams, and still kill the entire crew given the right bounce.
Too much crapola media. Heaven help us all. I'm pretty sure size (in this case [;)]) isn't important. Since I've seen .357 and .44 magnums chambered in a derringer (ouch!). |
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Posted: 8/9/2001 5:36:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: A 22LR fired will penetrate a USGI flack vest, but that is due to the small size of the round and the fact that the weave on the USGI vest is much looser than a standard vest. I doubt it will do a regual under the shirt vest... I have an old panel, I will try on my netx trip to the range. .22LR will not penetrate a PASGT vest. They are rated at least a Level II. |
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Posted: 8/9/2001 9:31:53 AM EDT
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maybe they confused .22LR with .223REM ?
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Posted: 8/11/2001 4:59:25 PM EDT
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What is important here is that the lady has made the choice to take control of her life and start packing some steel.........Good for her!
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Posted: 8/11/2001 6:04:54 PM EDT
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I think her info came from this story I read months ago about a LEO who was shot with a .22. The bullet went in his side, where he had no bulletproof panels.
It was one of the rare instances where a LEO with Bulletproof gear was killed. |
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