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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:29:52 PM EDT
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I voted for the 5th option, as it has a lot of truth to it.
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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:31:39 PM EDT
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I would go with the classic 350. I've seen some real rip-roaring engines built on the this small block.
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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:38:10 PM EDT
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Nascars use 350's but they get rebuilt after every race(atleast what i heard) and I dont want to rebuild it after everytime I drive it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:39:59 PM EDT
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There is no replacement for substitutes.
Wait, thats not it......... There is no substitute for gas. Damnit, thats not either..... What is it again......... |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:40:41 PM EDT
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You don't want to build up to that level, but something a bit more reasonable. Reember gas isn't getting any cheaper because you may not be able to afford to drive it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:42:07 PM EDT
[#6]
The 350 is quite impressive.
But nothing a really awsome 281 Ford can't embarrass Let the SHTF. 
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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:46:28 PM EDT
[#7]
Nothing beats cubic inches. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:47:33 PM EDT
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Im not building up a commuting car. Its gona be a hotrod. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:48:35 PM EDT
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Well then DUH. Get the 454. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:54:42 PM EDT
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how can you mount a 350 in those easy? my dade has one, it is a nice car.
Are you doing a mustang II front? What are replacing the factory drive shaft and tranny with? |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:55:41 PM EDT
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rasanders22: I guess your ambition is only limited by the size of your bank acount. In that case, I would go with a 396/454 big block and really light up them tires.
Show us some pictures of your handy work when you're done in the future. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:58:42 PM EDT
[#12]
Mustang 2 front end and having to replace all the drive train assembly. And this is going to cost me a lot of money :( |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 11:00:33 PM EDT
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While there is no replacement for displacement, a small-block can do some wild shit. It revs faster therefore getting to its "power band" faster, and is more readily kept there. Check into a 383 Fast Burn from Crate. 350ci that puts out 383HP off a 650cfm carb. (I think...) But they can build them up to put out over 450 with fuel injection or a big-assed carb.
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Posted: 1/22/2006 11:08:34 PM EDT
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i would fit it to your budget.
All the BB acessory parts cost alot more. plan on splening 1.5 tfor a big block, and you could make the same power. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 11:13:05 PM EDT
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Pat Musi 555 crate motor.
950hp of sweet Chevy goodness. 
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Posted: 1/22/2006 11:16:20 PM EDT
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Speed costs money. How fast can you afford to go?
If money is no object, then big block all the way! Just add aluminum heads, fuel injection, and electric water pump to the list for max effect. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 11:20:37 PM EDT
[#17]
I like the 350 Lighter, think about your front end and springs
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Posted: 1/22/2006 11:20:58 PM EDT
[#18]
How about a picture of the car?
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Posted: 1/22/2006 11:32:59 PM EDT
[#19]
+1 We want picts of the build! EDIT: 5 CHOICE POLES SUCK. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 11:53:47 PM EDT
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true the small blocks are cheaper but look at it this way,,,
you can spent 2grand doing a performance rebuild on a small block and get 500 horses and a butt load of torque and that will be the last rebuild that engine will see OR you can spend the 2grand on a stock rebuild on a 454 and get the 500 horses and a butt load more torque and rebuild it several more times. they are both good engines, no doubt, so what it boils down to is personal preference. i spent years playing with the 327,383,350 and 400 small blocks so i have nothing against them but after discovering big blocks,,,,i now fully understand the meaning behind " the only substitute for cubic inches is cubic dollars" there is no doubt the big blocks are more expensive to buy parts for but to get the same power out of a small block you will spend the money on other parts |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 11:54:28 PM EDT
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what other mods have you done to the car? will the other mods even hold up to high horspower/torque?
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Posted: 1/23/2006 12:05:02 AM EDT
[#22]
v6 or small block with a turbo or two hanging off of it
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Posted: 1/23/2006 12:09:10 AM EDT
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That would make for an exciting engine......If your a 16 year old GIRL. |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 12:12:19 AM EDT
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Noobs.
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Posted: 1/23/2006 12:21:30 AM EDT
[#25]
I vote for any straight 6. Ha! Seriously though, I'd go for the 350.
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Posted: 1/23/2006 4:48:42 AM EDT
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I would go with something a little rarer if you can afford it just to make the car stand out more.
How about a Chevy 302 ?(If you can find one) A guy in school had one in his Chevy II and it was s screamer. PS. before some of you guys argue that 302 is a Ford engine not Chevy......."Google it" I've had more arguements over the Chevrolet 302 over the years ............ |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 4:57:20 AM EDT
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Go with a good crate 350.You can buy one nowadays cheaper than a good set of ported heads cost back when I was young and foolish.I'd go aluminum heads,intake to keep the weight down.
This is from a guy with THREE 454s sitting around,looking for something cool to climb into. Or if you have to have a BB,go with the 502 crate. |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 4:59:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:03:24 AM EDT
[#29]
So you race NASCAR in a 38' chevy? |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:07:43 AM EDT
[#30]
I would go 305 all day long!
Go 454 cause you can. Nothing says kick ass like BIG BLOCK! |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:15:03 AM EDT
[#31]
my thoughts exactly  |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:17:09 AM EDT
[#32]
What he said, race engines and street engines are two different things. I assure you, you don't have to rebuild a SBC every time you run it. I voted for the Rat. I love big blocks. They're heavy, they're big but damnit their fun. Just take my advice, get a o.d. transmission whatever you do. almost $3/gal for super, 461 BBC, Muncie M-22, 4:11s are NOT economically friendly. My Firebird was parked during the last round of "Let's sell our kidneys for gasoline" game. |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:17:27 AM EDT
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If you are making a rod type car, a properly set up 350 should be more than adequate for your needs. You can build one hell of a 350 motor for cheaper than you can a 454 motor simply because of parts availability. With all the stuff out there for the small blocks, you should be able to create a 400 HP motor that will run on pump gas. |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:19:43 AM EDT
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I don't believe that monster will fit under the hood of a 38 Ford's body. In fact, I don't think the 454 will either. They are awesome motors to be sure, but making one fit with a 38 Ford isn't going to be easy, if I remember correctly.... |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:22:30 AM EDT
[#35]
Dz302 kicks ass. Finding an original factory built 302, last time I checked anyway, cost an arm and a leg. Probably easier to just build one. 283 crank and rods and 327 block and voila Chevy 302. Me too on the arguments, most people think Ford was only one to have build a 302. Chevy did it and better! |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:23:56 AM EDT
[#36]
I'd go with the 350 if you are planning to build something you will enjoy driving on the street. Less fuel, and less of a strain on your front end. +1 on the pics! |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:26:19 AM EDT
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It probably wouldn't. The 461 I transplanted into my Firebird was a shoehorn job and Pontiac engines were damn big themselves. But hey they did put a Caddy engine in a Chevette, of course the driver was sitting beside the left bank header and the shifter was mounted directly to the tailshaft of the transmission. |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:30:46 AM EDT
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How would you like a bullet proof big block with the displacement of a small block but the torque of a 454?
Look for a 366 truck engine. They have taller decks than normal BB's, but they have the stoke of a SB 400 and a real slim bore. These engines were true brutes. Otherwise, I would stick with a SB, I'd really shoot for a 383 stroker. GM's 12497317 HT 383 Crate Engine 12497317 HT 383 Specially tuned for torque, the all new HT 383 delivers great truck power in a small block package for your truck or street rod. With its 3.80" stroke and Vortec cylinder heads the HT 383 makes awesome torque, down low where you need it for towing or four wheeling off road. Peak torque is 435 ft.lbs at 4000 rpm, but the HT 383 makes over 400 ft.lbs. from 2500 to 4000 rpm. Developed with a roller cam, special heavy duty forged powdered metal connecting rods, "4340" forged crankshaft and hypereutectic pistons the HT 383 is designed ot be worked. 340 horsepower at 4500 rpm doesn't hurt either. The HT 383 is an ideal replacement for any 1977 and older carbureted engine or off road application. 
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:31:32 AM EDT
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The Chevy 302 was the true Z-28 engine. The Ford Boss 302 was created to compete with it on the racetrack. As for the poll, I say go with the 350. You'll be able to fit it in easier, your car won't be as front-heavy, and there's always the gas issue. I have a truck with the 454, and it really sucks the gas. Lot's of torque, though. 
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:32:30 AM EDT
[#40]
Get the Big Block. Torque RULES the streets.
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:34:29 AM EDT
[#41]
big block
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:39:55 AM EDT
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If you want a lot of power and no hassles, buy a big block crate engine from your Chevy Dealer or Jegs or annyone you find that has them. You WON'T be sorry. You won't be able to get the grin off your face.
<-----youMy buddy has one in a Vette. Nascar engines built by the top teams are only reliable to the length of the race. Matter of fact the top teams build engines just for certain tracks. Even the best teams have a problem "walking the line" between HP and reliability for the Coca- Cola 600 at LOWES Motor Speedway. That is the circuits longest race. The last hundred miles of that race usually claims an engine or two of teams that typically don't lose an engine. |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 5:57:48 AM EDT
[#43]
All aluminum used LS6-405HP & light. Fergit the 350. |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 6:04:29 AM EDT
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 store.summitracing.com/default.asp?Ntt=383&searchinresults=false&Ntk=KeywordSearch&DDS=1&N=115&target=egnsearch.asp Edelbrock Performer RPM Signature Series Limited Edition 9.5:1 460 HP/460 Torque 383 Crate Engines |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 6:08:11 AM EDT
[#45]
No Replacement for Displacement? |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 6:17:01 AM EDT
[#46]
+1 Gotta love having the HP along with still getting +-26mpg! I LOVE driving my 2000 LS1 B4C Camaro for that reason. 
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Posted: 1/23/2006 6:21:11 AM EDT
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Hell, I used 6th gear a lot and got almost 30mpg coming back from FL in my 02 Z06. Pollution my ass! The thing qualifies as a low emissions whatever.
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Posted: 1/23/2006 6:29:06 AM EDT
[#48]
 Surprised he didn't ask about rice. |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 6:39:08 AM EDT
[#49]
Small Bolck Chevy motors in street rods are as common as bellybuttons...
 I'd drop a BBC in it without a doubt. Remember the saying: "There's NO replacement for displacement." |
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Posted: 1/23/2006 6:40:49 AM EDT
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If money is no object, I would vote for a crate 502.
Although there is a guy on the Chevelle forum with a sweet 600+ cubic inch monster that he got under the hood of his car. Second choice would be a 454, then a 396. It isn't that parts are rare or hard to find. It is just that fewer people actually use a big block. Kind of like why .22 shorts cost more than .22 long rifles. You can get brand new parts any day of the week from numerous suppliers. Then I would consider small blocks. A 383, then 350. I've got a Chevelle with a 450 horse 383. Gets about 8mpg. I don't drive it much anymore. Less than 100 miles last summer. My neighbor has a Chevelle with a 427 that gulps 104 octane race gas. (I LOVE the smell of that exhaust) |
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