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Posted: 1/18/2006 2:54:17 PM EDT
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NOOOOOO!!!!!
ETA: Will they put the big ole 'S&W' on the side of the gun?? |
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yes. |
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Why enter a market with so many competitors? They really think a bunch of gay rails and crap on their handguards are going to differentiate them?
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brings new meaning to the phrase "This property protected by Smith & Wesson"
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Here we go, complain about manufacturers ignoring gun owners and every time something new is introduced, ARFCOMers crap on them. I'm no fan of S&W but am glad they are creating new products for the gun market.
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1200 to 1700 bucks?
Must be made out of an even newer alloy, unobtanium. |
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Way to go S&W! |
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Company Expands Military & Police Series With Rifles Designed for Law
Enforcement, Military, and Sporting Shooters SPRINGFIELD, Mass., Jan. 18 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (Amex: SWB), parent company of Smith & Wesson Corp., the legendary, 154-year old, global provider of products and services for safety, security, protection and sport, announced its initial entry into the market for tactical rifles and will begin shipments in early February of the Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifle and the Smith & Wesson M&P15T Rifle. These tactical rifles are additions to the Company's Military & Police (M&P) series of firearms specifically engineered to meet the needs of global military and police personnel, as well as sporting shooters. Michael F. Golden, Smith & Wesson's President and CEO, said, "We are entering the $1 billion market for long guns with products that provide the exceptional functionality and reliability that Smith & Wesson customers have come to expect. We believe the features of these tactical rifles make them strong contenders in the military and law enforcement markets. We also believe that our M&P rifle series fills a tremendous gap in the marketplace by delivering high-quality, feature-rich tactical rifles that will be readily available in commercial channels. As a company that stands for safety, security, protection and sport, the Smith & Wesson brand and reputation have earned a position for us in that market. The M&P15 rifle series is produced entirely in the United States under manufacturing alliances with several American companies." The M&P rifle series is based upon a combat-proven design and incorporates a full set of standard features currently unmatched in other AR-15-type tactical rifles. Both the M&P15 and the M&P15T (with its high-end accessory package) are rugged, lightweight, semi-automatic rifles. Both are chambered in 5.56mm NATO ammunition and are built to perform under a diverse range of conditions. Reliability features of the gas-operated rifles include a chrome-lined gas key, bolt carrier and barrel. Both the M&P15 and the M&P15T are designed to accommodate a variety of shooters and shooting positions through the use of a six-position adjustable stock. The M&P15 incorporates a traditional AR-15 design featuring a removable carry-handle and adjustable rear and front post sights, allowing for quick target acquisition and convenient handling. The black anodized rifle measures 35 inches in length when fully extended and has an unloaded weight of 6.74 pounds. The M&P15T, with its high-end accessory package, features folding front and rear battle sights and a four-sided equipment rail system that allows the addition of accessories, such as lights, laser-aiming devices, and vertical grips. The rifle measures 35 inches in length when fully extended and has an unloaded weight of 6.85 pounds. The M&P15 and M&P15T join a comprehensive family of Smith & Wesson products designed and manufactured to meet the needs of law enforcement professionals. Other products include a full-line of Smith & Wesson's world-renowned revolvers used for primary duty and backup side arms, the recently announced M&P series of polymer pistols designed specifically for law enforcement and military use, and a wide range of handcuffs, restraint products and tactical vision devices. Both the M&P15 and the M&P15T will be unveiled at SHOT Show 2006, February 9-12 at the Las Vegas, Nevada Convention Center. The Company expects that editorial coverage in multiple industry publications will occur beginning with that event. Initial shipments of both rifles are expected to begin concurrent with SHOT Show and will be distributed initially to law enforcement agencies for test and evaluation and to the sporting goods distribution channel. The M&P15 will carry a suggested retail price of $1,200, while the M&P15T will retail for $1,700. Hmmmm... |
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Wish it away Son! Wish it away to the cornfield!! You dun good, real good! Now wish it away!
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Just another company that buys forgings and parts from the manufacturers then puts their name on them and charges an arm and a leg.
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No shit! That actually puts S&W up a few notches in my book. It doesn't matter what you think of their products, this is the kind of statement I want to see from major manufacturers in the gun industry. |
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The only thing that would make me buy one is if they made the lowers and uppers out of their Scandium material. I'm thinking a super lightweight carbine without having to resort to polymer receivers.
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Anymore I roll my own when it comes to AR rifles,would like to have a S&W stamped stripped lower reciever though
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That would be impressive if they can work out the metalurgical issues for the component sizes, although I don't know about the barrels. Are the bbl on the shortie revolvers scandium? I think not, and the barrels on an AR are one of the heaviest parts. However I could be wrong, I don't own a S&W wheelgun. |
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Is the market really this big ? Sounds like easy money for AR manufacturers.
"We are entering the $1 billion market for long guns" |
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You get much respect for that fine and obscure reference! As for a S&W AR, I don't see how this is anything but good news. |
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OK...that's the hardest I've laughed all day!! HH |
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Twilight Zone, can't remeber episode title, but the town is in Ohio, at least it said it was. |
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I think ARFCOM members spent that last year. |
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First 1911s, now ARs.
Hummm, seams like someone has a little Colt envy. |
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The AR is becoming a commodity market and they're betting on brand recognition?
Sure, as long as they have a long and distinguished history with the AR-15. |
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Need mor RRA type competitors, not this, a new flavor of Coolaid company.
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Yep. The episode was'It's a Good Life. |
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Like the 1911, I would bet Smith is already making AR parts for someone else. Now they are going to sell some of them under their own name. They do alot of sub-contracting work. I don't see what the big deal is. I wouldn't be suprised if alot of parts on many of our beloved AR's were made by Smith already. |
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I wonder if they'll bring out a Semi-only version of their dearly departed S&W 76?
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Ya, but it doesn't pass the Arfcom Fashion Police test, nevermind that no facts are out about the S&W AR, so it obviously can't be any good. |
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I think the price of $1200 is a "fact". That's enough for me. |
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Don't own a 6920? Regardless, if it is a quality AR, and it includes a rail system and folding sights (as listed in the article), $1200 isn't all that bad of a price. |
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i dont think $1200 is a terrible price. rumor is flying around that its a CMT parts gun. in that case chrome lined M4 with a quality rail handguard and a detachable handle is pretty reasonable. whats a Colt M4 go for these days? probably close to $1200 without the RAS.
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will i buy one at that price.... no
i will however give S&W props for introducing more designs that piss off the anti's since the new owners have taken over than any other company. wonder if they will make a 500 upper for it? |
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More guns = brighter future for gun owners.
I don't know about you, but I think that anytime we get a new product or a new manufacturer, it's a good thing. While you may not find them appealing, someone else might. That will lead to more more purchases and more gun owners. It only builds and strengthens the gun community. The stronger our community is, the more chance we have of reversing some of the gun laws in this country. Who knows, maybe one day we'll get back to glory days of when you could buy full auto guns from the Sears catalog and have them shipped to your door ! |
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I think the one with the RAS is $1700, $1200 gets you a stock A2 or A3w/ Det. Carry Handle and thats it. |
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Yet another "me too" product from S&W. I wonder where they'll put the hammer lock?
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That is the MSRP. The MSRP on a SEBR-ish carbine is $1210.00 from Bushmaster, yet look at what they go for here. Ditto the S&W. Street pice and MSRP are two different things. |
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As a side note, I drove by the Smith & Wesson factory today on my way to a job in Springfield.
Very anti-climatic. |
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I'm sure it will have the standard S&W mag-drop safety .... and of course a decocker of some sort. I wonder if they will come in Stainless .... or at the very least a "Lady Smith" version
I wonder what the "S&W Performance Center" will come up with for the new M&P15's |
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hell the more the merrier In my opinion but as said i wonder if it will have a neat lock and magazine safety
Since they are in maine i thought they might be rebadged Bushies |
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HBAR |
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Coming soon! The Ruger AR-14! Minute of barn accuracy! Includes sling and one ten round mag (proprietary)!
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Might be interesting IF THEY LEAVE THE LOCK OFF OF IT, otherwise it's just another waste of space.
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Not to mention the magazine disconnect. |
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HAHAHAH (sad though, cause you know its true.) |
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IIRC (never owned one, read a 'review' of one in "Combat Handgunnery"), most of the barrel (the "outer shroud", if you will) is scandium, but there is a thin tube of metal within the scandium "outer barrel" that actually comprises of the "true" barrel, the part the bullet touches. According to what I've read, this system is less than optimal. Scandium uppers/lowers = cool, scandium barrels = no thanks. |
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Correct the Scandium barrels are sleeved. |
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There is more truth to that than you know! |
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