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Posted: 1/18/2006 11:06:33 AM EDT
From a RC board I frequent:
Tha guy lives in London. How F'ed up is that?! |
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so it took the cops over a day to show up at this guy's house when the neighbor reports gunfire? Good reaction time. And to think I thought the cops here took their time
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That comes from the same dictionary as 'colour'. |
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It's sad that one report of a sound is sufficient PC for a freaking Search Warrant.
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Yeah, I can't wait. |
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What do you think would happen in say new york city if someone called the police and reported hearing gunshots from a neighbor's house? |
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What would you expect to happen if you called the police to report gun shots at your neighbors house? Maybe they would investigate your complaint? |
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Difference in areas for sure.
Here where gunshots are so common, we know to not even think about several gunshots for its the one or two you have to worry about. Its so common here, you couldn't get a search warrant based on hearing a gunshot. Hell these people are so removed, they don't even know what a real gun sounds like. The story is downright weird. Tj |
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Thats what I do when the dog's barking pisses me off. |
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No flame, but I think they would send a patrolman to knock on the front door and ask if they were discharging a firearm. The irony of all this is the London police probably executed the warrant without carrying firearms. |
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England has to be the biggest wussies on the frickin planet. A warrant based on an unseen observation? I think it was gunfire? PATHETIC! I wish they would fall off the planet so they cannot contaminate the rest of the world. |
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Yeah, but look at what some judges here will use as a basis for an Order of Protection. And, I'm sure some search warrants have been issued on a single say-so in some jurisdictions. So, the cops get used for someone else's power play (protection orders in divorce cases, for example), or other "get even" crap between neighbors. The cops are at risk for no good reaon, and reputation goes down. |
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What about the warrants issued here based only on a CI who is a drug addict or otherwise a criminal? |
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Yup, ditto. (part of what I meant by single say-so). The cops are at risk, and everyone hates them more, and for what? |
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Contrary to what you know, what you think, or what you think you know, warrants are actually getting harder to get in many jusrisdictions. Judges are requiring an extremely solid level of probable cause, and specific details. As a cop, this makes me happy inside. The more solid the warrant has to be, the more solid the case has to be. No more doofus ass cops losing good collars over loose, vague warrants, and poor execution. Last I checked, I hired in to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States. Doing this means I have a plethora of tools at my disposal. This also means I have to use the right tool for the right situation, and use the tool correctly, or I risk doing harm to the Constitution, and the citizens, which I am here to serve. If I do my homework, and know the law, then there are no problems catching bad guys. There are PLENTYof legal, ethical, and Constitutuional ways to do business. Often they are easier and faster than doing it the easy, wrong way, when you factor in the amountof time it takes for a Civil Lawsuit, or Federal 1983 case. |
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I thought they didn't have search warrants in England. Or rather, they don't have legal or constitutional protection against unreasonable search and seizure.
Like someone else said, what do you want to bet the cops they sent to check it were unarmed? If there really was a bad guy there with a gun, they'd be screwed. |
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It's very obvious you have no clue about how search warratnts are obtained. |
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This is the part I need an explanation for. Why would they come "searching for firearms"? Why didn't they come out to investigate "gunfire" I am obviously not familiar with the gun laws over there (but the Spirit tells me that red statement revolves around that) |
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Big ass +1. |
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www.urbanski-law.com/article.jsp?practArea=38&articleIndex=4
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I don't bitch about the Police. I liked their music back in the day, and it sucked when they broke up.......never mind.
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Sting is teh Ghey |
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1) You frequent an RC/models board? 2) Oh, that was in London? I thought that was here. 3) Does he wax his chest? 4) FWIW, I don't bitch about "the police" (as a whole, or group), but I do bitch about certain members, when they fuck up, and elements within the police (brass, FOP, etc) for their anti-2A/-RKBA position(s). But you probably weren't speaking about me, specifically. ETA: 5) What kind of name is "Flappers"? Kind of answers question # 3. |
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Probably because they had to get the warrant first. |
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I wonder if, in Britain (since they have no guns ), people call in and say (instead of "I heard shots next door").......... "I heard the tell-tale sound of a knife going through the air." Oh wait, I forgot; they ain't got them, either. |
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They showed up with a warrant in-hand to investigate a noise disturbance???? WTF over?
Kind of jumping the gun aren't they?? |
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I would hope the British cops near Santa Pod wouldn't do this...
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England fucking sucks.
I never want to leave the United Staes. Ever. Fuck i never want to visit CA, NY, or NJ either. I just happen to live in NJ. |
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Oh... I'm sorry.* * Spoken in the same tone and with the same connotation as here: Cowboy: Whoo! That is one crazy get-up, mister... Are you in the show? Austin Powers: No, actually, I'm English. Cowboy: Oh... I'm sorry. |
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