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Posted: 1/17/2006 10:31:08 PM EDT
Are you a JBT or do you have what it takes? Take this simple quiz and find out if you are ready for jackboots. Answer yes or no.
Answers in RED. 1. Do you believe certain Americans are less deserving of rights? No. All Americans, even suspected criminals have the same rights as any American. 2. Do you ever have to work outside the letter of the law to get things done? No. As police officers enforce the law, they must work within the confines of the law. 3. Are law enforcement officers, by virtue of their position, sometimes above ordinary Americans? No. Just as representatives of Congress were suppossed to be ordinary Americans who do a service, so are LE officers. They perform a public service and are no different than firemen or paramedics. 4. Do law enforcement officers deserve special consideration of privledges? No. Just as those who seek political power are generally unsuitable for that reason alone, the same can be said of those who seek LE positions for similar reasons. 5. If you KNOW somebody is guilty, is it ok to lie or break the law, to help convict them of a major crime? No. Police officers may not violate and enforce laws. Some may feel it is "public service" to convict by any means serious threats to the community but that is an abuse of position. 6. If you KNOW somebody is guilty, is it ok to lie or break the law, to help convict them of a minor crime? No. Police officers may not violate and enforce laws. 7. Is it in any way part of your job to punish criminals? No. Police officers are not judges or presecutors. 8. If somebody has broken no laws, are they still subject to your authority? Yes. The public gives police officers the necessary authority to enforce law and ensure public safety. 9. Are police officers who break the law the same as other criminals? Yes. Criminals are criminals. 10. If you were a prohibition officer, would you have arrested people for possession of alcohol? Yes. They enforce the law, they cannot interpret the law. This is why you don't want "bad laws." SCORING: No combination of right or wrong answers automatically makes somebody a JBT or not. Obviously if you disagree with all of the above it is a warning sign. But the mere fact that you are willing to investigate your views and evaluate them means you are probably not going to be a JBT. The real JBTs won't question their views or allow them to be scrutinized by others. |
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OK...I have my answers, is there an answer key? How many yes answers makes me a JBT?
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Depends which ones you say "Yes" to. |
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Damn Steyr, this might turn out to be the Mother of All Threads.
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Not so fast, there mister....You don't get to post a quiz without having an established answer key. I declare shenanigans!! |
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I have an answer key. It just ain't a simple to figure out one and I ain't posting it till people start posting answers. However, your believing you have the authority to declare shenanigans does put you closer into JBT territory. |
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I don't wanna be the guinea pig for this, I'll post mine after Stey posts his Key
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Here's a fun question: Would you enforce laws you know to be stupid/wrong?
Examples would be: Seatbelt laws Arbitrary and meaningless gun laws the guy who grows weed for no one but himself I can't think of any more. Obviously, I'm biased. Remember: Just 'cause it's illegal, don't mean it's wrong... |
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Another one: Would you find a way to cite and/or arrest a mere
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Don't clog the thread or you will be oppressed. |
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Oh I'm fairly certain I'd make JBT status if you got make the decision...Not posting the answer key gives you the leeway to arbitrarily adjust the results to suit your own agenda though... We're all adults here (well, maybe not all), I believe that you'll still get honest answers. Mine would closely resemble GTOJudge guys answers (before he edited them out anyway). Only exception would be the last answer. I have and will continue to arrest probationers in violation of their alcohol restrictions. |
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are you sure? *deep breath* here goes nothing
1.no 2.yes 3.yes 4.no 5. no, in reality I probably would 6. no 7. no 8. yes 9. yes 10. Given how much I drink, probably not |
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[monty python]help help I'm being oppressed [/monty python] |
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No booties for me. |
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Since I asked questions I should also answer:
That's pretty much it. How'd I do? Can I have my Jackboots, secret decoder ring, and wallet size photo of Janet Reno now? |
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Yes |
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1. Yes Pedophiles, boy raping priests, drug dealers, cop killers, killers, white collar criminals, rapists to name a few
2. Yes Criminals do, so why not. 3. Yes, but only in regards to the legal powers given them on and off duty 4. No 5. Yes see #2 6. No 7. Yes, becuae usually the courtd won't. 8. Yes An officer may not know if a law has been broken until they investigate, so asking someone to stop, put hands up etc is a nedded component of being subject to one's authoriTAY 9. No, Worse 10. Yes ETA, are you going to put up a Are You Ready To Be A FFL quiz next? |
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Are you a JBT or do you have what it takes? Take this simple quiz and find out if you are ready for jackboots. Answer yes or no.
1. Do you believe certain Americans are less deserving of rights? No 2. Do you ever have to work outside the letter of the law to get things done? No 3. Are law enforcement officers, by virtue of their position, sometimes above ordinary Americans?Yes 4. Do law enforcement officers deserve special consideration of privledges? Yes 5. If you KNOW somebody is guilty, is it ok to lie or break the law, to help convict them of a major crime?No 6. If you KNOW somebody is guilty, is it ok to lie or break the law, to help convict them of a minor crime? No 7. Is it in any way part of your job to punish criminals?No 8. If somebody has broken no laws, are they still subject to your authority? No 9. Are police officers who break the law the same as other criminals?Yes 10. If you were a prohibition officer, would you have arrested people for possession of alcohol? Yes |
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There's nothing in there about asking to "zee yor paperz" in a German accent, or shooting dogs. What gives?
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Nice boots...I knew I should have gone into law enforcement. |
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SA you make this shit up yourself or did you get it out of the back of a periodical you subscribe to?
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ditto.....you can hand me my daisy wreath and peace sign bandanna now. |
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I have PBJ lodged in my sinuses now, thank you. |
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It is more or less a collection of things from many sources (psych tests, pre employment tests, etc.) that have been reworded to be applicable to this topic. |
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This is the "lawyer answer". "Made the shit up" is the "Police answer". |
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There all Yes aren't they?
Well most of them are correct? BigDozer66 |
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Hey we found one. |
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BigDozer66 |
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Fixed it for ya! |
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Answers in RED.
1. Do you believe certain Americans are less deserving of rights? Yes, those in custody obviously have limited rights, and they shouldn't be allowed to sue to get a better breakfast cereal while they're in prison. Also, those convicted of violent felonies should have their firearms rights limited if not revoked. 2. Do you ever have to work outside the letter of the law to get things done? No, as police officers enforce the law, they must work within the confines of the law. 3. Are law enforcement officers, by virtue of their position, sometimes above ordinary Americans? Above, no. Are we often held to a higher standard, yes. Consider "Mayor" Marion Berry. He used cocaine and was ousted from office. Then later, he was re-elected. Once a cop has used, he's done for life. 4. Do law enforcement officers deserve special consideration of privledges? Yes, risking one's life throughout their career should entitle them to a retirement CCW, not that I'm against all people having CCWs. 5. If you KNOW somebody is guilty, is it ok to lie or break the law, to help convict them of a major crime? No, we'll get them next time. 6. If you KNOW somebody is guilty, is it ok to lie or break the law, to help convict them of a minor crime? No, we'll get them next time. 7. Is it in any way part of your job to punish criminals? No, but if they fail to submit to arrest, they might get hurt. Don't confuse that with punishment. 8. If somebody has broken no laws, are they still subject to your authority? Yes. The public gives police officers the necessary authority to enforce law and ensure public safety. 9. Are police officers who break the law the same as other criminals? No, they often are treated much more harshly. Ever seen the average Joe Blow be found not guilty in state court, and then have federal civil rights charges filed against them? 10. If you were a prohibition officer, would you have arrested people for possession of alcohol? Yes. They enforce the law, they cannot interpret the law. This is why you don't want "bad laws." Well, this is the world according to me. |
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Better get back to practicing then! BigDozer66 |
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In situations where the LAW has revoked a persons rights you are correct. However that is a process of law and not your opinion and you don't make such decisions. That is why I didn't address those cases where a person has had their civil rights limited by the law. But I suspect that I know your answer to the original question as it was intended based upon your other answers. |
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The first part of my response is to address the craziness of what those behind bars can do to manipulate the system. You're right about my response to the second part. I only addressed it because people invariably want to know where LEOs stand on any firearms restrictions.
ETA: And let me add that illegal aliens should have virtually no rights. I don't mean that we can beat their asses, just that they should have no protection under our laws regarding deportation delays, etc. |
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Illegal aliens are NOT Americans. |
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Sure they are, they're mostly South Americans. |
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1. Do you believe certain Americans are less deserving of rights?
Yes, Convicted felons lose certain rights. 2. Do you ever have to work outside the letter of the law to get things done? No. 3. Are law enforcement officers, by virtue of their position, sometimes above ordinary Americans? Yes. "ordinary" citzens are functional idiots. Rain breathers. Half of them voted for Gore. 4. Do law enforcement officers deserve special consideration of privledges? No 5. If you KNOW somebody is guilty, is it ok to lie or break the law, to help convict them of a major crime? No. But it should also be illegal for him to lie to defend himself. 6. If you KNOW somebody is guilty, is it ok to lie or break the law, to help convict them of a minor crime? No. 7. Is it in any way part of your job to punish criminals? Yes. The arresting officer is the prosecutor in traffic court and for all criminal iinfractions. 8. If somebody has broken no laws, are they still subject to your authority? Yes. See reasonable suspician to detain and probable cause to arrest. 9. Are police officers who break the law the same as other criminals? Yes. 10. If you were a prohibition officer, would you have arrested people for possession of alcohol? Yes. they best way to get a bad law replealed is to enforce it agressively. |
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I agree with every thing he said. As would 99% of police officers, IMHO. |
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Should have created this at the site w/ all the tests we see so often here
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If it wasn't true, I'd be |
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Mexico is in South America? |
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