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Posted: 1/17/2006 1:43:49 PM EDT
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It's not the answer to the universe, but overall it was a good read and I was surprised just how applicable some of his principles are today.
ALSO!!! There are HUNDREDS of different translations of "The Art of War" and many of the authors try to slant his teachings in one way or another. The only way to get around that it to read several different translations and then judge for yourself. |
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Posted: 1/17/2006 1:44:50 PM EDT
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Yes
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Posted: 1/17/2006 1:46:20 PM EDT
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Most of which you can find online in plain text or html format. |
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Posted: 1/17/2006 1:48:30 PM EDT
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Several times and a couple different translations.
If you have to read one book on military thought, this would be it. |
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Posted: 1/17/2006 1:49:54 PM EDT
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Definitely a book to read annually...not that I do, but in a perfect world, there would be about 10 books I would read once a year.
I also agree to look at the different translations. It is cool because each time you read it, you are in a new place in your life (well, if you have a dynamic life....) and so it has some new meanings each time. |
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Posted: 1/17/2006 1:50:36 PM EDT
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I have a book called "Sun Tsu was a Sissy" it's about using similar concepts in the corporate world. Mainly it's for humor, but it's pretty good.
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Posted: 1/17/2006 1:53:28 PM EDT
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The fortune cookie tome on strategy. Does contain some good stuff, but over rated, especially at the operational level.
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Posted: 1/17/2006 1:55:31 PM EDT
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Between Sun Tzu's The Art of War and Machiavelli's The Prince, I'm all set.
BTW, links pop FREE e-texts at Project Gutenberg. Jim |
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Posted: 1/17/2006 1:56:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2006 1:58:16 PM EDT
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De Jomini, Machiavelli, and Sun Tzu. De Jominis was the best, IMO.
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Posted: 1/17/2006 1:58:37 PM EDT
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Sun Tzu's "Art of War" or Machiavelli's?
Doesn't matter. Read both. |
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Posted: 1/17/2006 2:00:42 PM EDT
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Read The Art of War, and then study Chinese actions in the last 20 years.
Then write your Congresscritters to double the military. 
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Posted: 1/17/2006 2:03:52 PM EDT
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Mao's campaign in the Chinese revolution was much more Clausewitz than Sun Tzu. Of late, Chinese strategic planning has been much more of the Sun Tzu flavor. Sun Tzu has much more to say about policy and strategy than about operational art. |
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Posted: 1/17/2006 2:09:34 PM EDT
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I read the English translation by Yuan Shibing (sp?) who was a general for the communist Chinese army back in the 1950s. A lot of commie propaganda in that one.  My parents say that the Chinese version of the Art of War is written in very classical, complex Chinese. They said that even a native speaker would have an extremely tough time deciphering it. This is another reason why the various interpretations and translations are all over the board -- it's hard to decipher the book. Now, does anyone remember the game Art of War for the Radio Shack/Tandy TRS80 (?) back in the 1980s? 
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Posted: 1/17/2006 2:11:20 PM EDT
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I've read it along with The Tao Te Ching, I Ching, The Book of Five Rings, Hagakure, Budoshushin and most others.
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Posted: 1/17/2006 2:15:25 PM EDT
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Read Sawyers version of both Sun Tsu and Sun Pin, and also have his version of the Seven Military Classics.
Of the various versions I liked Sawyers editions the best. He includes the most historical background with his translations. |
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Posted: 1/17/2006 2:17:02 PM EDT
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Jomini is often under rated and I think Clausiwitz is over rated. Fog of war, got it, thanks. Jomini is enjoying a bit of a resurgence of popularity in military circles these days. |
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Posted: 1/17/2006 2:25:50 PM EDT
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I preferred Truppenführung.
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Posted: 1/17/2006 2:46:25 PM EDT
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Klausewitz is more on the strategic level.
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Posted: 1/17/2006 5:28:35 PM EDT
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Absolutely correct, insofar as the Chinese revolution and Mao's reign is concerned. But in the 30 years since Mao's death, China has started to move in aspects that start to resemble alot of Sun Tzu's teachings - mainly about winning before the first shots are fired. We're involved in a cold war with China. The problem is, they're the only ones that know it. If we don't wake up, they'll win the war before we even realize we're in one.
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Posted: 1/17/2006 5:31:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2006 8:17:52 PM EDT
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I'm chinese; most of us read it one time or another in school. I find it very useful in the business world, especially office politics.
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Posted: 1/17/2006 9:52:26 PM EDT
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Bingo! A coworker of mine actually asked me if I had read The Art of War after he observed the way I dealt with a conflict with another coworker.
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Posted: 1/17/2006 10:01:09 PM EDT
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I didn't read it, but I have it laying around so people who see it will think I'm formidable.
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