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Posted: 1/17/2006 10:05:11 AM EDT
www.channelcincinnati.com/news/6175179/detail.html

Explosive Devices Discovered On Suburban Metro Bus
Cylinders Contained High-Grade Flash Powder

POSTED: 7:20 am EST January 17, 2006
UPDATED: 1:46 pm EST January 17, 2006

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SYCAMORE TOWNSHIP, Ohio -- Investigators said three cylinders found on a Metro bus on Monday evening were explosive devices.

The Hamilton County Hazardous Devices Unit determined that the 4 1/2-inch-long cardboard tubes contained high-grade flash powder and had an internal fuse with an external heat source.

Officials said that if the three had gone off in unison under a passenger's seat, the victim could have suffered severe injuries or even been killed.

The driver found the explosives just after 6 p.m. as she pulled into a layover area along Wexford Avenue.


She called firefighters, and a nearby church was evacuated while the bomb squad removed the explosives.

No one was injured during the incident.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:15:29 AM EDT
[#1]

the 4 1/2-inch-long cardboard tubes contained high-grade flash powder and had an internal fuse with an external heat source.

Officials said that if the three had gone off in unison under a passenger's seat, the victim could have suffered severe injuries or even been killed.



wtf? firecrackers???
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:18:35 AM EDT
[#2]
Well, it isn't exactly a cell phone triggered IED, but....    someone could get a serious skin infection.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:20:31 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

the 4 1/2-inch-long cardboard tubes contained high-grade flash powder and had an internal fuse with an external heat source.

Officials said that if the three had gone off in unison under a passenger's seat, the victim could have suffered severe injuries or even been killed.



wtf? firecrackers???



Big ass firecrackers.  I made some bigger than that in high school with flash powder, rammed a hole for them into a snow berm in a parking lot.  Blew a very big hole in the berm, we felt the shockwave, my brother said he felt it and it rattled our windows three blocks away.  They're closer to dynamite than firecrackers.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:22:08 AM EDT
[#4]
What the hell is up with folks in Cinci, anyway? Here lately, everybody's shooting cops and making half-assed bombs. Did I miss the start of the revolution, or what?
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:22:32 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Well, it isn't exactly a cell phone triggered IED, but....    someone could get a serious skin infection.



Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:28:16 AM EDT
[#6]
Somebody’s trial run. I’ve always wondered if the tactics they use in Israel would eventually hit our shores.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:29:40 AM EDT
[#7]
BUG OUT, BOYS!
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:40:38 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:

the 4 1/2-inch-long cardboard tubes contained high-grade flash powder and had an internal fuse with an external heat source.

Officials said that if the three had gone off in unison under a passenger's seat, the victim could have suffered severe injuries or even been killed.



wtf? firecrackers???



Big ass firecrackers.  I made some bigger than that in high school with flash powder, rammed a hole for them into a snow berm in a parking lot.  Blew a very big hole in the berm, we felt the shockwave, my brother said he felt it and it rattled our windows three blocks away.  They're closer to dynamite than firecrackers.



I dont know whether it means four .5" tubes OR 4.5" tubes. This part isn't clear.
But in either case, flash powder ain't no C4. This is some amature juvenile shit... I can't even imagine what the purpose would be, aside from stopping the bus for all of 5 minutes.

So by that  description we could be talking ladyfingers, or essentially M-80s. A couple of 5" tubefulls would make a bang... Assuming they were mixed/packed properly. Funny thing is, theres been talk of banning model rocket materials, and this sure fits that agenda.

However, the odd part is that... heat won't set off flash powder AFAIK, I believe you need an open flame. You can leave a pack of ladyfingers on a picnic table in direct sunlight... nada. Unless it was resting on the muffler or something... does not sound to be the case here. External heat source, wtf? hHigh-grade flash powder" my ass.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:47:39 AM EDT
[#9]
PUT PETE IN THE HALL AND THE INSANITY WILL END
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:50:00 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

the 4 1/2-inch-long cardboard tubes contained high-grade flash powder and had an internal fuse with an external heat source.

Officials said that if the three had gone off in unison under a passenger's seat, the victim could have suffered severe injuries or even been killed.



wtf? firecrackers???



Big ass firecrackers.  I made some bigger than that in high school with flash powder, rammed a hole for them into a snow berm in a parking lot.  Blew a very big hole in the berm, we felt the shockwave, my brother said he felt it and it rattled our windows three blocks away.  They're closer to dynamite than firecrackers.



I dont know whether it means four .5" tubes OR 4.5" tubes. This part isn't clear.
But in either case, flash powder ain't no C4. This is some amature juvenile shit... I can't even imagine what the purpose would be, aside from stopping the bus for all of 5 minutes.

So by that  description we could be talking ladyfingers, or essentially M-80s. A couple of 5" tubefulls would make a bang... Assuming they were mixed/packed properly. Funny thing is, theres been talk of banning model rocket materials, and this sure fits that agenda.

However, the odd part is that... heat won't set off flash powder AFAIK, I believe you need an open flame. You can leave a pack of ladyfingers on a picnic table in direct sunlight... nada. Unless it was resting on the muffler or something... does not sound to be the case here. External heat source, wtf?  

Seems like a 6th grade prank of fireworks (Legal in Ohio btw) or model rocketry (engines) to create a disturbance, something which seems to have no way of detonation, is being overblown to create a widespread panic via the media. "High-grade flash powder" my ass.



No, flash powder isn't Astrolite, but a 5" x 1" tube filled with it would very efficiently remove you from your ass.  It's not pussy stuff.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:50:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:45:22 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
What the hell is up with folks in Cinci, anyway? Here lately, everybody's shooting cops and making half-assed bombs. Did I miss the start of the revolution, or what?


Whoulda thunk it?  The Revolution started in Ohio first?!?  

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:51:02 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Somebody’s trial run. I’ve always wondered if the tactics they use in Israel would eventually hit our shores.


Thinking the same thing
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:58:25 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
What the hell is up with folks in Cinci, anyway?



They're still mad about the Bengals.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 12:00:31 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Somebody’s trial run. I’ve always wondered if the tactics they use in Israel would eventually hit our shores.


Thinking the same thing



I'm thinking that some unstable idiot who thank God couldn't get his hands on real explosives.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 12:45:31 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
PUT PETE IN THE HALL AND THE INSANITY WILL END



What does that mean?
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 12:47:07 PM EDT
[#17]
Holy Crap! Thats like 5 minutes from my house!
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 12:49:04 PM EDT
[#18]
tag
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 12:52:55 PM EDT
[#19]
No. I do NOT ride the Metro. Don't even ask. Public transportation is socialist by its very nature.

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