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Posted: 1/7/2006 10:30:23 AM EDT
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because whiney libs cried about it
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Posted: 1/7/2006 10:32:42 AM EDT
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i was of the understanding we had a huge stockpile from the vietnam war, and used that excess up in the first gulf war and afghanistan... though, maybe someone who actually knows something will chime in.
 eta: you mean from planes in bombs or backpack/vehicle mounted flame throwers? |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 10:33:44 AM EDT
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Nothing like the smell of Napalm in the morning
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Posted: 1/7/2006 10:35:07 AM EDT
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The basic truth is that it was a psychological weapon that in reality was less than effective. I remember reading some studies from Korea that showed that ECR were really, really small and in most case the effect they got was the respite that the enemy would not go through the fire.
For the war load on a strike aircraft cluster munitions are much more effective and instead of producing a quick flash and little effect, they kill about everything in the fall pattern. |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 10:35:09 AM EDT
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They couldn't get it to stick to children well enough.
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Posted: 1/7/2006 10:46:41 AM EDT
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Bingo! I have been meaning to write the story of Napalm since I've read a lot about it and I've talked with countless WWII, Korea and Vietnam Vets about it. Napalm was never used after theVietnam era. Louis Fieser and his group invented it during WWII and he wrote a great book about called "The Scientific Method". He also patented the invention under U.S. Patent #2,606,107. It's a great read. 
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Posted: 1/7/2006 10:50:45 AM EDT
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You are correct real Napalm went out along time ago. But the Marine Corps did use Mk77 flame bombs in ODS and twice in OIF, the first time on Safwan Hill and the 2nd time on the hostile side of the Tigris at the crossing at An Numenyah. It was really pretty to watch. |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 10:53:37 AM EDT
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Im sure we still have it in the stockpile. It may or may not be used, I mean some things are classified still. I would be willing to bet that it isnt used on a large scale due to their is less vegitatation in the Middle Eastern Theater and that there are more effective weapons in existance now. Weapons such as cluster bombs and laser guided bombs fit the bill better for a desert climate where you can see everything.
LBGs work better in a city cause you can level one building precisisly and use it where you cant user Napalm or artillery ect cause of civilian concerns. And when air support is needed helicopters/AC130s or a varity of other weapons work in the CAS role due to friendly fire concerns. But when you still need the old carpet bombing, a B52 or B1 with Iron unguided bombs has always worked better than Napalm. |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 10:55:44 AM EDT
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they did use naplam in gulf war one, but not as a weapon they used it to burn up the big pools of oil from the oil well fires after they where put out. they where also used a few times on oil slicks on the water
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Posted: 1/7/2006 10:57:19 AM EDT
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It was used on a few trenchlines in 2nd MarDiv ZOA during ODS. |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 11:21:42 AM EDT
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Napalm has been replaced with Incendigel. Works about the same but doesn't stick to women and children, only armed combatants.
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Posted: 1/7/2006 11:25:22 AM EDT
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About 5-8 years ago, the USA wanted to destroy the existing stock of napalm, and many communites refused to the let the train carrying the tank cars pass through their community on its way to the disposal site saying that it was too dangerous. I doubt if the USA has but a very small stock of that stuff, if any. |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 11:26:04 AM EDT
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ETS |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 11:28:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2006 11:29:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2006 11:31:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2006 11:35:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2006 11:56:38 AM EDT
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tag
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Posted: 1/7/2006 11:56:46 AM EDT
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Yeah we use the old Napalm canisters as traveling carriers now. The pilots put their bags in there since there isn't exactly any room in the cockpit of an F-16 fighter jet. But yeah they say napalm is too inhumane to use anymore. Kind of like we can't use hollow points in our guns either.
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Posted: 1/7/2006 12:18:34 PM EDT
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Cool! One interesting side-note is that what was originally called 'Napalm' and what was used from about the mid-point of the Vietnam War on were significantly different. The second type is called Napalm B and is made up of a mixture of benzene (21%), gasoline (33%), and polystyrene (46%). The Mk77 flame bombs use this second type, Napalm B. It is far cheaper to produce, hence the change. But there were enough stockpiles of Napalm left over from WWII and Korea that it wasn't until they were well into the Vietnam War that they came up with Napalm B. The original Napalm was made by thickening gasoline with the aluminum salt of the fatty acids of coconut oil and olive oil, or naphthenic acid. The patent I referenced goes into agonizing detail about this. The U.S. was going to use natural rubber to thicken gasoline but the Japanese captured all the significant sources for natural rubber before the war began with the U.S. Necessity is the Mother of Invention!
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Posted: 1/7/2006 12:25:31 PM EDT
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Styrafoam cups and gas works too.
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Posted: 1/7/2006 7:40:51 PM EDT
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That's what B & D models are for.
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Posted: 1/7/2006 7:57:19 PM EDT
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I used to drive through this place twice daily:
Fallbrook CA Naval Weapons Station And I quote: "The last remnants of the nation’s napalm stockpile were stored at Fallbrook, and a state-of-the-art facility was built on base to help eliminate these weapons. The last full napalm canister was destroyed in March, 2001. Overall, the installation stores munitions with a monetary value of over 2 billion dollars. Several endangered or threatened species, including the Stevens kangaroo rat, the California gnatcatcher and the cactus wren, share the base with their Navy neighbors." |
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Posted: 1/7/2006 8:06:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2006 8:18:10 PM EDT
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I always like it when pilots come out with a huge set of fucking golf clubs and expect the crew chief to fit them in a travel pod. 
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Posted: 1/7/2006 8:25:06 PM EDT
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm
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