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Posted: 1/3/2006 6:55:43 AM EDT
As the HR manager, I handle payroll as well. As some of you may remember, the good people of Florida voted to raise the minimum wage from $5.15 to $6.15 last year. Florida has a $3.02 tip credit for tipped employees, so last year our servers, were making $3.13. Well, as of Sunday, minimum wage was boosted AGAIN to $6.40, and the servers are making a whopping $3.38 an hour. To the full time employee, that would be an extra $520 a year, not including holiday or vacation pay, which is an extra $104,000 out of my employer's profits in a year.
It'd be nice if I had two salary increases within 12 months. |
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Minimum wage is supposedly something you should be able to raise a family on. Don't you love democrats?
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Which of course, we will end up doing... ever seen a $10 martini jump to $13?
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How much do you make an hour? |
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The minimu wage is another liberal plan to help the poor that instead actually end up hurting them.,
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It works just fine when you add welfare (cash) benefits, food stamps, and subsidized housing. |
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It's certainly crap when they willingly pay $9.00 an hour at the local In-N-Out Burger. Even Wal-Mart tops the minimum wage where I live.
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Ya in a strip club one time.. |
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Eh, just wait until you have to fire one of them to keep the business afloat. Then, it'll really be crap.
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Raise your prices. Duh. |
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Roofers here make 15$. Heck, Chick-Fil-A has a big banner out front stating starting pay is $9 an hour with bennies.
Where does one even FIND a minimum wage job? |
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Just wait until 20,000,000 "undocumented workers" are magically made "legal" and are thus subject to minimum wage laws. Instant inflation across the nation, WHOO-HOO!!! Minimum wage is pure Communism. |
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Who could even live on that? $30k a year for full time work. Minus the taxes........ |
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That won't happen anytime soon, we grossed 9.2 million last year, of that $1,794,070.80 were labor costs, not including vacation, or holiday pay. |
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Since he is a salaried employee he probably makes minimum wage (per hour) unless he is non-exempt salaried employee. BigDozer66 |
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Regardless of whether or not its legislatively required I can't believe anyone bitching about having to pay someone $6.40/hr. Fucking free loaders will beliving high on the hog on that huh...
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+1 $7 an hour is way too easy to find, even here in backwards San Antonio. |
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I'm pretty happy with my salary, above $45k I'll say. |
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That's a damn good salary around here for a laborer esp. if he pushes 50-60 hours a week. Heck, police officers start the academy at 36K. The local teachers make about the same. |
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Just do like most other employers who have minimum wage crammed down their throats...Get rid of an employee or two or ten. That has to be the reason Wal-Mart has 50 registers (up front) and only 8-12 checkers working. BigDozer66 |
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I bet all your servers drive Ferrari's. |
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Come live in Ft. Lauderdale and live comfortably off of $15 an hour, it's possible, but you'll work your fingers to the bone, and forget about a mortgage
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[liberalwacko]But they need something to live off of! They are probably single parents and it is tough, they need all the money they can get for health care. The increase in the minimum wage now means that instead of feeding their children cheap hotdogs, they can now afford the expensive grillmaster hotdogs, perhaps even be able to afford some mustard or perhaps chili. Poor people are dying and all you can think about it a loss of profit! You are just a really, really bad person[/liberalwacko]
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Thats the point. Because of the minimum wage, the cost of work is artificially inflated. In otherwords, for a job you would otherwise get someone to do for X dollars once it is mandated that the person doing that job must be paid X+Y dollars, regardless of the fact that the person would have done it for less, the price of labor just went up. And it went up through regulation, not through market forces - which is the way it is supposed to be. So, yes, inevitably the cost of the good/service that employee is used to make/provide will rise, and the cost will be passed on to the consumer (i.e. the rest of us). Or, the employer will be forced to let someone or multiple other employees "go" to make up his shortfall. Either outcome is poor. Less money in the pocket of the average person, such as myself, so I eat in more which will further reduce the profits of the restaurant owner. Both of which leed to more unemployment. Minimum wage mandates are a bad thing. |
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Interesting. To respond to FoubleDeed, err DoubleFeed, you can't raise a family on minimum wage. Yes I know you're being facetious but you can't. Yes w4klr, minimum wage sucks. And you wonder why those kind of jobs have a high turnover rate? |
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Y'all keep in mind that Union wages are indexed to the minimum wage. An increase in the minimum wage means a pay raise to Union workers.
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IIRC w4klr, from your Walgreens pepper-spraying thread you're 19 right? And you make $45K plus? Ho-lee-Shit! Tell me where I can find this +$45K job man! |
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$50 drug prescriiptions with insurance. Heck, with insurance I'm running about $25k a year out of pocket. Tell me how I could live on $21k takehome? Even factor out the excessive healthcare, given the cost of everything I really have no idea how folks could do it on $15 an hour even. |
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I got lucky when I started with the company, I started as an office helper, and I got to know HR procedures like the back of my hand, then corporate fired the last HR manager for stealing petty cash, and my boss put in a recommendation for me to boost up, since I also have college credits in Human Resources. The starting salary for HR management is in the high 40s |
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MW is a joke. I almost think it is kept ridiculously low to keep pipelining people into the welfare system. We need to get all the illegal immigrants out of the country, keep them out, and then do away with MW. In short order we'd see more American workers able to afford to stand on their own two feet as lower end wages hit a more reasonable level.
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No, thats the living wage. Actually,when the minimum went up,they interviewed some woman somewhere working in a sub shop raising 6 kids on her minimum wage job,so some people DO fall into that category.I dunno how she could raise that many kids on minimum without a lot of other programs kicking in help. |
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I get it. It shouldn't be possible. A lot of people that work minimum wage jobs, in my experience, are kids my age or younger, and senior citizens. They don't make a lot of money, and that's the point. Again, you can't raise a family on that wages. |
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Exactly. There has to be some explanation somewhere. |
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High school grads who don't want to go to college. Most roofers I know are 20 or 30 something and are still single with no family to support. They do just fine. |
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VERY good post. |
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Not where I work. |
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Chris Rock: "Minimum wage means, "If I could pay you less, I would."
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I have worked for minimum wage before and I didn’t find it all that fun. I was working through my senior year of high school for $3.33. I got a pretty sweet raise a few months later to $5.25 thanks to Uncle Sugar and all of a sudden everything went up and it didn’t make a bit of difference, the numbers just got bigger. I learned that being a bottom feeder is not the place to be so I went to college and got and AS in engineering. I got a good job and last year I made 40K but I am still a bottom feeder in my industry and I am working hard to get off of the bottom by going to night school to get my BS and move up the ladder a bit more.
Don’t give me any BS about how hard it is to make it on minimum wage, it is suppose to be hard that is why you do your job well and get promoted or get experience and move on to a more lucrative job. Money really has nothing to do with it though. Life is a very hard thing when one is stupid. If you are making MW, live within your means and don’t start cranking out kids, don’t create unnecessary bills. MW is low to make people work harder to make more money so that they can live more comfortably not live high on the hog. |
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You would live within your means is how. I grossed $40K last year not counting what my wife made but her money is just spending money all the bills are paid out of my check. After Uncle Sugar ($7800), 401K ($5000+/-) and Ins. ($1800) I brought home about $24K. Not great but I am working on making more BUT I have a nice house, 1 SUV, 1 truck, 1 car, guns and other toys that I could do without and I am not over extended. Could I afford to live in NYC nope, would I want to, nope. Columbus is a good place to get started (crappy politics aside). I left a great town to come here because that great town had no jobs paying more than $9/hr. For the money I make here could live at least 50% better there because property values and taxes are so much less. |
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