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If you've ever read t.p.g on usenet, you'll know what that forum would turn into. A handful of extremely rightous antis (Like the idiot who continually posts how the Miller case proves that there is no individual right) a handful of anti trolls that never respond, a large number of informed, intelligent RKBA-ers debunking the anti's, and an equally large number of RKBA-ers self-combusting due to anger.
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I stopped posting and reading talk.politics.guns some years back (when I finished school and they shut down my computer account). For quite some time I was a real regular t.p.g participent. And I agree with you about 100%.
I once was posting to a thread that John Lott posted to. And I and some others debated (Peter?) Weir (sp?) when he came on to "debate" Lott by taking quotes from Kleck out of context (he got handed his ass on this).
The Miller thing sounds like something Raygun would pull; I remember Raygun admiting once that, yes, Miller was based upon the shotgun's status, not Miller lack of status in any militia. He then went on to claim that if the shotgun [i]was[/i] protected, the court would have gone on to reject Miller's 2nd Amend rights based upon Miller's lack of standing in a militia!
I also remember an argument of the effect of the '76 DC handgun ban. The number of homicides went down after the ban, but so did the population. The per capita homicide rate remained stable. Raygun's interpretation was that the people who left DC were the good ones, and the homicide rate would have risen without the ban. He's a smart guy, and not at all ashamed to hang on to the silliest thread of an argument--but he never admits he was ever wrong.
One thing though: participation is a great learning experience. Just don't get heartbroken when you find out you can't convince the antis. I always figured that their were some fenced sitting lurkers we might be winning to our side.