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Posted: 11/29/2005 11:38:10 AM EDT
Let's say you know a woman that has legally separated from her husband and has initiated divorce proceedings. They are living in separate houses. The husband doesn't want a divorce but she does, and she's ready to move on with her life. Is it wrong to date her and sleep with her prior to the final divorce?
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Popcorn, check.
Proceed. My hormones say get it on. My ethics say no. Guess which one would probably win. |
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If you and her are not married - to each other - then yes, it is wrong.
Next question. |
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Never pass up an opportunity to be "Transition Man!"
All the pie, with half the hassle. |
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But goats are still OK, right? |
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I don't have strong feelings on this except these:
If you feel the need to ask, it WILL bother you afterwards. Something in you is uncomfortable with this, and a green light from us won't help. Not preaching, and I'm definately not a shrink, but something made you ask. |
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Go ahead a give the girl a good ole' fuckin.
Better check your six though, the estranged hubby may not like it. |
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Fuck it, as long as ou don't mind that she still has a husband.
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I say have at it. Just keep a loaded pistol by the bed in case the estranged husband decides to show up.
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As long as there soon to be Ex is not a ARFCOM member, and do not recognize your posting name
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+1 |
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I say....GET IT ON!
If she is legally separated, and has started divorce proceedings, then she is fair game, she is serious enough about it to get to that point.... |
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Why, you trolling for a piece of ass? |
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It is wrong not to sleep with her, she needs an understanding shoulder to lean on in this trying time.
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Rebound Relationship! Send me her phone number if you aren't going to use it. |
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The sleeping part is not the issue.
It's what goes on while you are both awake!!!!!! |
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Do yourself a favor and rent "Sea of Love" (hey, it's got Pacino) before you start banging a married (she is still married) woman.
You don't want to end up naked, dry humping the bedsheets with a .38 at the back of yer noggin. |
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Can someone bitch slap this "marry her to fuck her" mentality out of all our heads... |
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I was legally separated, and, in the middle of proceedings.
So was Mrs. Goon. I see zero ethical issues with it. Saying someone is "married" just becasue of thier legal status is just semantics AFAIC. If they are actively trying to work it out, I'd say no-go. Just recognize they may both change their minds, and, you're ass-out. |
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If someone said it was wrong, would that stop you? |
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Don't do that, we need that mentality in as many people as possible. Better odds for the rest of us. |
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Didn't we just do this like a week ago. Anyway, I'll say it again. When entering a marriage so many people treat it as a religious as opposed to a legal thing. When leaving it, it's ALL LEGAL. I don't get it. Get married in a church and divorced in a court house. THAT's what doesn't make sense to me. And your talking to someone that sent off his divorce papers yesterday lol
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Moral issues aside, it's still "yes, it's wrong".
Everything the woman does until her day in court is liable to be brought up in court. That means you and whatever you did or didn't do. Until the divorce is final, she's still married. By sleeping with her, you are hurting her divorce case and in a high likelyhood since the husband doesn't want the divorce find yourself under supena and on the witness stand. Seen that more than once. OK, there's the legal aspect. The other aspect is social. Her husband doesn't want a divorce so he is probably a tad out his mind right now. He may just decide to shoot your ass or you have to shoot him. Please don't fool youself you won't get caught for women talk more about this shit then men ever dreamed even though we get the bad rep for it. One heated argument and your name is off her tongue lashed out like a knife. Buy a ticket to Nevada and buy a hooker. It will cost less in the long run and probably a better time to boot. Tj |
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I think you are looking for validation of your desire. The answer to you morality question is best answered by your belief system. If you have no moral problem with pre-marital sex, and if you have no problem with sex with a legally married but emotionally separated woman, then you have no problem and should move on toward your goal.
Perhaps more importantly, if she is emotionally "done" with her marriage, and only waiting for the legal paperwork, she probably considers herself a free woman and it is probably a good thing to discuss this with her. |
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No, I don't see anything wrong with it any more than sleeping with any divorced woman.
However, it has been my experience that every woman I ever slept with who gave me that story was neither separated, nor planning a divorce. YMMV but I doubt it. |
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There really isn't a legal issue. Common misconceptions to the contrary, the divorce court isn't going to punish her for adultery or anything, even if she wasn't seperated. The opposing lawyer might bring it up, but it'll just be grandstanding for his client.
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I'm mostly wondering what our friends would think about it. Will most people view it as if she is cheating, and me as a marriage-wrecker? Will people point their fingers and whisper to one another that we're cheating? Will I be shunned from my circle of friends? Would my boss think I'm scum if he found out? I'm basically wondering how society looks on a situation like this. |
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Stop worrying what society thinks and live your life as you want to. |
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How would you like to be treated if you were still legally married to your wife, and not wanting it to end?
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Society doesn't give a fat rat's ass. Even if you do become the topic of a few converstations, in a few short weeks they'll move on to the next juicy gossip they can exaggerate and spread. Who's opinion is it that you're concerned about, anyway? Don't let anything but your own conscience dictate your morals to you. |
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Interesting point of view from a socialist, neofascist JBT. Not surprised though. |
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Maybe you should ask her...... |
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All of our heads? Probably not. It's been in my head (and in my wife's) for a long time. |
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Excellent. I mean, er, congradulations. Now, step aside, if you would - you're blocking my way to that redhead over there...
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Just make sure you don't own a bmw m3
my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=151392&page=1&pp=20 damn! the pictures got taken down before I could save them |
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My my my, its amazing how different this same poll is in TEAM forum.
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Maybe I should pay for some counseling for them? Seriously, I've been through a divorce and I know how bad it hurts. A man has got to move on if his wife has decided that she doesn't want to be married anymore. You can't make someone want to be with you. It's a very destructive path that you take when you try to force someone to love you. I feel really bad for the guy, but he has to deal with the fact his wife is moving on and he's not going to have a say in it anymore. She's going to be dating someone if it's not me. BTW, Her lawyer told her that she can do whatever she likes (date/have sex... whatever) and it won't have any legal reprocussions on her divorce. |
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I do own an M3. Oooooooooops! |
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LOL, you better send it to me for safe keeping, then! eta: at least your interior is already red! |
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I'm not trying to tell you what to do. For me, there are plenty of unmarried women out there to have to go for someone's wife, no matter WTF some lawyer says. See if that lawyer gives a rat's ass when either her husband is flinging 9mm's at you, or you feel like shit about yourself for banging some poor dude's wife. Don't let some asshole making $150 an hour sway your decision at all, or anybody here, including me. You know the situation. Are you OK with it? |
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Do you work with these people ? Do you share common friends with either ? Sounds like it could be a PITA if you are that worried about it and are wondering how friends and coworkers will take it.
If you had no other ties to this couple than just knowing the woman I would say go for it. If you run in the same social circles or work with either I say avoid it until at least after the divorce. Just last week we had a guy here get shot by his girlfriends ex-husband. The ex-husband was waiting in her house and when they came in he shot and killed the guy. Bunch of damn nuts out there, be careful. |
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I think there are points on both sides of the "ethics" bit of this.
But I would concentrate on the overall "IS THIS A GOOD IDEA FOR ME" part of that question. I note the following: 1. This woman is going to have fucking DRAMA and it will spill into your life even if you're just fuck buddies. 2. This woman's husband may be caught up in the "legally still married" aspect of this. And truth be told, the law sort of is too. In my state there's a 90 day period after filing the divorce where nothing can happen because the law presumes there's a chance at reconcilliation at this point. Bottom line, hubbie may not be capable of coping with the thought of his Mrs. getting the bottom knocked out by you. You might get yourself killed. There's plenty of hot women that don't come with this risk. 3. If she's going through a divorce, she SHOULD be in the "its too soon" mindset. If she's not, then she's either a complete slut or she wants something ($$, whatever) from you. EJECT! EJECT! 4. From the ethics perspect, if YOU had a wife and she sprung a divorce on you and YOU believed there would be a chance at reconcilliation, would you be offended by another guy fucking your wife? Your thoughts here should guide you. |
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