found this posted on myspace by an anonymous person, just want to see what everyone thinks.

not everyone is like this in fact i know mass people who aren't but for the few of you who are and think every white person is a racist this is for you. why is it that no matter what happens.. if a white person even says one thing along the lines of those names they are considered racist? You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey" and even "The Man" and you think it's OK. But when I call you, "Nigger", "Kike", "Towelhead", "Sand-Nigger", "Camel Jockey", "Beaner" or "Chink" you call me a racist. You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live? You say that you want to make a change in this country. How? By protesting everything that we believe in? By trying to change everything that has made this country run fine for centuries? You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah You have Cinco de Mayo You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi You have BET. If we had WET(white entertainment television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day you would call us racists. If we had white history month, we'd be racists. In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists. You enjoy the thought of Driver's Licenses for illegals. We enjoy the thought of people obeying the laws of the land in which they reside. No negotiations. You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists. You call each other "niggas", but when we call you that, you call us racists. You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist. We work hard to perserve our history. You come along and try to re-write it. We want a safe environment for our families and children. You want to bring the ghetto to our neighborhoods. I am white. I am proud. I am an American. But, you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists?

the person who posted this was quoting it as well and saying that whoever wrote it was racists because of it and saying it was dumb and blah blah blah

well i happen to agree with it 100%

just want to know what you all think.

I'm not a racist! I hate everyone equally!

Cracker please!

guess I'm racist.  

Couldn't have said it better myself. I am not ashamed of being white, self-reliant, responsible, or anything else. And I'll be FUCKED if I will apologize for any of it. I have never owned any slaves, and have never tried to keep ANYONE down, and I don't owe anyone a GODDAMN thing (except the bank). I know that minorities have been mistreated in the past, but nowadays, they have the world handed to them on a platter. If they need any more help than that....too bad. The only way to better your situation is to DO IT YOUR SELF!!!! GET A JOB AND START PAYING TAXES!!!! MAYBE THEN YOU'LL FIND YOU DON"T EVEN HAVE TIME TO BLAME "WHITEY!"

ETA: I don't mean ALL of any particular group, but if the shoe fits.....

Quoted: my thoughts. ibtl by page 2

How the hell does a mod call "ibtl"?


Edit: I would venture "they" get away with it by claiming "tyrany of the majority" or some lame ass excuse.

Guys, just MHO.

For a long time - and in many of our lifetimes - it was perceived a "bad thing" to be a black person. There was shame in it (separate facilities for "coloreds", etc). Up 'til the 50s and 60s in fact.

This gave rise to the "black power" type people who said it was a Good thing to be black and proud. This is fine. They needed that to throw the perceived shame of being black off.

The reason you're a racist if you say you're White and Proud is because whites are the majority... And don't forget all of the negative connotations the past brings up when you say such things. Blacks, being currently and historically a minority, can say those things because there was a negative connotation to being black for so long.

I don't say I'm white and proud... I say I'm German/Irish and proud. I don't care what skin color I have and I don't care what skin color you have. Just don't be an a-hole  

A big test will come in a few years when non-whites are the majority.

IBT88s

Quoted: Cracker please!

Crakah, puhleez....

Quoted: You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.

That right there is the problem with the original post.

The above post is right on the money. It is  bullshit how we let out enemies, er minorities, control the discussion on racism.

First, minorities all want to appeal to the "white guilt." I have no white guilt. I grew up poor, put myself through college (every last fucking penny), and have made a good life for me and my family. I live the American dream. It is out their for everyone if you are willing to work for it.

Second, the majority needs to tune out (or shout louder than) minorities when they start with this racist shit. Being a white male (and still in the majority in most parts of the USA), I have to ask why do we care what minorities want? Minorities get what the majority gives them. When is it enough? Well, if we ask the minorities, it will will NEVER be enough. Ask an employee if they are paid enough. The answer will ALWAYS be no. We have had Affirmative Action for 40 years. The way things are going, minorities will "demand" it for another 40 years.

Third, Blacks make up about 10% of the US population, or about 30 million people. How much of our time do we spend talking about "poor Blacks"? Do we talk about poor Asians that come to the USA and work their asses off? Look at how well the Koreans have done. They left the Blacks in the dust. Do we talk about poor whites? What about poor Native Americans?

Fourth, some idiot Whites are actually having the conversation about reparations for slavery. Blacks are jumping on the bandwagon to appeal to the white guilt. And if we get some national leader who is stupid enough to formally apologize for slavery, expect the drumbeat to grow even louder for  a payout. I really believe that it would be worth it to pay $1 million to each Black person as reparations, if in return, they would agree (and be subject to imprisonment if they violated the agreement) to never bring up racism, slavery or any of that bullshit again, and we could end all racial preferences for them. Judging by the the way the New Orleans assholes went through the $2,000 provided by FEMA, it would only take a month or so for the $1 million to be spent. The good news is that we would have a short term boost to the economy from the spending, and Blacks would have to keep their damn mouth shut.

Sorry to be an Angry White Man, but ar15.com is my therapy of late. Cheers.

Quoted: Quoted: You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. That right there is the problem with the original post.

Exactly.  Some smart-ass motherfucker went and read the FBI uniform crime report and found out the facts.

IBTL

Cause thats the way it is, Cracka! Suck it up and move to the woods!

This has to get locked at some point...IBTL

You know, it is pretty stupid to call yourselves "White".  I mean, that lumps you in with all sorts of unsavories like Irish, Scots, French, Russians, and so on.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. That right there is the problem with the original post. Exactly.  Some smart-ass motherfucker went and read the FBI uniform crime report and found out the facts.

haha..right between the eyes

I'm a minority and I have  nothing against white people.  In fact, most of my friends, colleagues, and employees are caucasian.  I treat them with respect and dignity, they treat me the same.  I don't feel like they look at me like I'm different except that I happen to be an American-born Asian.  

Treat people the way you want to be treated, and good things will flow from that.  If you start off with a chip on your shoulder, whether you are black, white, yellow, orange, or magenta, and people will automatically be defensive toward you, it's human nature.

IMO, if you shout the loudest, you generally have the weakest position.  Logical and thoughtful people can have disagreements on race relations and a host of other issues without being racist, prejudiced, or narrowminded.

I've felt the brunt of racism from caucasians, and I've seen racism toward caucasians by minorities.
No skin color has the monopoly on ignorant and stupid invididuals.

Be proud to be white, black, brown or yellow.  

Most importantly, be proud to be American.

Some people will never, never, get beyond race.  This is ingrained in the human psyche, since the earliest days of clans and tribes and woolly mamoths.  Outsiders brought disease, or worse, dangerous ideas, and the clans that fostered ridicule of those different than them enjoyed an evolutionary advantage, passing along their xenophobia to surviving generations.  There has not been enough time since the invention of the city (what, 5000 years or so ago) for natural selection to push a xenophilic gene forward.  Cities of course meant that you were already exposed to disease and new ideas far worse than what the average visitor could bring in, and his new ideas might actually increase your (population's, not individual's) chance of survival.

On top of that, in a free, market driven society, there will always be those who can find a way to profit in lamenting the condition of the minorities (espescially if there is an actual history of mistreatment, no matter how long ago and how nasty a civil war was fought to correct that condition).  These profiteers have no interest in actually improving the condition of their chosen group, because that would cut off the money.

Most people take this in stride, accept the fact that the Nationalist Socialist Party and the Nation of Islam are the chocolate and vanilla in a swirlly cone, pretty much the same substance.  We shrug every time the Reverend J. Jackson opens his mouth, and also when someone complains about Martin Luther King day.  The history of America is pretty much the history of white people in North America simply because of the numbers.  If a minority group wants to celebrate their contribution, then thats okay with me (and I suspect most people), as long as it does not attempt to change the portrayal of history (without some dang good evidence) and it does not denegrate the contribution of another group.

I don't have to respect any one's, or anyone's group's, heritage.  You earn respect, not demand it.  Those who have earned it don't have to demand it.  If you want to toot your flute about either how you have been "opressed", or how you don't want to celebrate Cinco de Mayo, then toot away.

edit for spelling, jeez.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. That right there is the problem with the original post. Exactly.  Some smart-ass motherfucker went and read the FBI uniform crime report and found out the facts.

Not sure if you are agreeing or being sarcastic - my point is not that the black segment of the population doesn't account for a disproportionate amount of crime (the FBI stats are pretty clear, after all).  The amount of crimes committed by the black demographic is clearly proportionally higher than that acocunted for by whites.

My point is merely that by saying "YOU rob US, carjack US and shoot at US" the implication is that YOU refers to blacks in general, and US refers to whites in general.  By the gross sterotyping in that statement, it kind of IS racist

So the sentiment might be accurate (in terms of the problem with white "pride" being automatically considered somehow suspect) - but the way it is phrased and the choice of languafge is poor, to me.




As an aside, I've noticed that the only people that seem to care about "white pride" are people who don't seem to have a lot to be proud of in terms of personal accomplishments.     I've never hear corporate executives, doctors, PhD's, lawyers, etc. lament how they cannot express their white pride in public.

Personally, I don't see the need to feel poud of an accident of birth that I had nothing to do with, when instead I can be proud of all the things I have accomplished in my life - as a result of things that were actually under my control.  I'm porud of my service in the army, and my officer's commision, and my education, and my publications, and my success in life.  My skin color?  Why would I be "proud" of that?  

IMO the concept of "white pride" is just as stupid as "black pride" - just because the other kids in the playground are playing a stupid game, does that mean that we have to as well?

Non whites are the majority in most population centers of the country.  I could give a number of reasons for this but I won't.  Having been an EMT in Little Rock for as long as I was gives me a unique perspective.  I've scraped up bangers that have shot each other and rich WASP families that have shot up each other.  Guess which one only happened once and which happens weekly.  I've often said that we, as gun owners, can be our own worst enemy.  Others say it too.  It's very true.  I'll take what they said one step further.  When the Black power movement got big, it was no big deal,  if a group of whites came together with some orginaization to protect our rights we'd be racist.  Yet if you look at the state of the black race as a whole say in 1960 then again in 1990, it's amazing the speed with which their power, and influence grew.  They all got together and created this little thing called "black power"  I'd say it helped em out, years after we stopped hearing about it.  Now with the gang problems they are killing each other off again.  Give them time, they'll be back together.
           Years back, a few leaders of the LA crips and LA bloods decided that they shouldn't be killing each other and tried a truce.  For awhile it worked.  They tried the same thing here.  If these gangs ever do successfully get together after years of fighting each other, that scares me more than any muslim.  Home grown terrorists, just on a smaller scale, they steal weapons, they sell drugs for funding, half the fucking white kids in the country are trying to join up.  While we sit and watch it.  Of course what can we do?  We're racist if we point out the truths that I have.  I have black friends that agree with everything I've just said.  I know white people that think I'm racist because I'm a proud southerner.  
          I'm not racist at all.  Everytime I meet someone I treat them with respect until they show me I shouldn't, and I don't trust them as far as I can throw them until they show me I should.  Color doesn't matter.  The way you present yourself has a lot to do with it.  I'd say dressing like a thug makes me dislike you, but that would make me racist.   Sorry.  Seriously, just like we are our worst enemies as gun owners and supporters of the second, we are becoming our own worst enemy watching what is happening to our children and society.  We're not doing anything about problems that may get us, or our families, killed, due to fear of being called racist.  

What exists today in America is not MLK's "dream" of all people being equal.  It is people of some minorities wanting dominance and to exact revenge for perceived injustices in their lives.

THE STRANGER within my gate,
   He may be true or kind,
But he does not talk my talk—
   I cannot feel his mind.
I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
   But not the soul behind.
The men of my own stock
   They may do ill or well,
But they tell the lies I am wonted to,
   They are used to the lies I tell.
And we do not need interpreters
   When we go to buy and sell.

The Stranger within my gates,
   He may be evil or good,
But I cannot tell what powers control—
   What reasons sway his mood;
Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
   Shall repossess his blood.

The men of my own stock,
   Bitter bad they may be,
But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
   And see the things I see;
And whatever I think of them and their likes
   They think of the likes of me.

This was my father's belief
   And this is also mine:
Let the corn be all one sheaf—
   And the grapes be all one vine,
Ere our children's teeth are set on edge
   By bitter bread and wine.


Rudyard Kipling

But it is racist, a veritable racist manifesto.  It discusses issues in only the context of race.  That there are black, brown, yellow AND white racists is indisputable.  Those who frame their lives around racism have parted company with me.  

I have seen white gangsters and black gangsters.  Gang culture, youth violence and drugs are problems we must address.

Illegal immigration is a problem we must fix.  I have seen white illegals (Irish, English, Germans, ...), black illegals (Haitians, Nigerians,...), brown illegals (Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Guatemalans, ...)

Neither the problems, nor the solutions, have anything to do exclusively with skin color.

Quoted: But it is racist, a veritable racist manifesto.  It discusses issues in only the context of race.  That there are black, brown, yellow AND white racists is indisputable.  Those who frame their lives around racism have parted company with me.   I have seen white gangsters and black gangsters.  Gang culture, youth violence and drugs are problems we must address. Illegal immigration is a problem we must fix.  I have seen white illegals (Irish, English, Germans, ...), black illegals (Haitians, Nigerians,...), brown illegals (Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Guatemalans, ...) Neither the problems, nor the solutions, have anything to do exclusively with skin color.

Why am I NOT shocked at all that your from California.  Your white so your a problem to all of these races because your a white racist. Don't you know that yet?

Quoted: But it is racist, a veritable racist manifesto.  It discusses issues in only the context of race.  That there are black, brown, yellow AND white racists is indisputable.  Those who frame their lives around racism have parted company with me.   I have seen white gangsters and black gangsters.  Gang culture, youth violence and drugs are problems we must address. Illegal immigration is a problem we must fix.  I have seen white illegals (Irish, English, Germans, ...), black illegals (Haitians, Nigerians,...), brown illegals (Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Guatemalans, ...) Neither the problems, nor the solutions, have anything to do exclusively with skin color.

You know what’s racist?  The incredibly one-sided (in terms of who is committing crime) nature of the FBI uniform crime report.  Not the fact that they dare print it…the fact that it actually happens that way.  The racially defined ongoing crime wave is what’s racist.
Speaking about it is not racist.  It’s just true.

I think the African-American community would assert there is selective enforcement (racism) and prejudicial/preferrential sentancing at work causing some of the disparity in those statistics.  Even when the arrest and conviction is legitimate, they would also assert that the poverty in the black community and the heritage of slavery (lack of education, destruction of the family unit, ...) are cultural causes for some of that disparity, too.  

Would you agree or disagree with their assertions?

While these may or may not be legitimate explanations for the roots of the criminal behavior, it is no way intended to excuse it, rationalize it, legitimize it or deny that much of the crime in society comes out of the African-American community.  

Every word is true.

The day will come when Whites will be the minority in America. When that day comes we will be treated far worse than any minority we may have mistreated in the past.
We will still be called the racists, be blamed for all the worlds problems, and still not be allowed to have things like Ms. White USA or United White College Fund.
Basically, we wil be treated the way Jews are treated in Europe and the Middle East.

Affirmative Action: equalizing by singling out for 40 years.

Quoted: Couldn't have said it better myself. I am not ashamed of being white, self-reliant, responsible, or anything else. And I'll be FUCKED if I will apologize for any of it. I have never owned any slaves, and have never tried to keep ANYONE down, and I don't owe anyone a DAMN thing (except the bank). I know that minorities have been mistreated in the past, but nowadays, they have the world handed to them on a platter. If they need any more help than that....too bad. The only way to better your situation is to DO IT YOUR SELF!!!! GET A JOB AND START PAYING TAXES!!!! MAYBE THEN YOU'LL FIND YOU DON"T EVEN HAVE TIME TO BLAME "WHITEY!" ETA: I don't mean ALL of any particular group, but if the shoe fits.....

Agreed.

BLACK POWER
Down with whitey

If we'd only known then what we know now.

Quoted: If we'd only known then what we know now.

I am sure we would have picked our own cotton.

Quoted: Quoted: If we'd only known then what we know now. I am sure we would have picked our own cotton.