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Our domestic enemies frighten me alot more than our foreign ones.
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Who? the supream court, the developers, the state legislators or the founding fathers (for not being more specific on what they meant) |
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Yet it always harder to warn people of them. Say terrorist, people of get all alert and panicy. Say politician, they ignore you. |
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Don't discriminate. |
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take a good look because that will probrobly be the last time you see those people in front of their homes unless Jeb steps in and does something about it!
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Politicians with no fear of their constituents is unhealthy. This type of shit is a good example why...
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Nearly everyone has a line drawn somewhere. It is inevitable that one of these elitist assclowns will cross one. I hope they are sorry for the rest of their sad, worthless wasted (and hopefully short) lives. No pity. No remorse. The water's gettin' hot and the hogs are hungry.
Sooner would be better than later. |
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All but the FF. They were VERY SPECIFIC. They said for PUBLIC USE, not for PRIVATE. The ED ruling was one of the worst things I've ever seen. |
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I thought Eminent Domain was only if the Guberment wanted to
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wtf. those look to be completely inhabited and well maintained houses.
this is definitely not what ED is supposed to be about. |
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Yeah, from those pictures it looks like that neighborhood is falling apart.[/sarcasm]
Yeah, Let's not be excluding people. That'd be rude. |
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Now they can seize your house and give it to a business or real estate developer for a song. You see, a big business or bunch of rich folks in houses pay more taxes than poor and middle class people do. And according to the SC, more tax money is in the public good. This is because 5 people decided to shit on the Constitution. Any public official that actually tries to use this is, imo, violating their oath and should swing. |
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Shit, this could get ugly. Don't fuck with old people--all they got left is their house and their dignity. Take that away....you never know.
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+1 I think "Government renter" is a more accurate term vs. Homeowner. |
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YUP ! It's going on in many parts of NJ.
Welcome to the DEMOCRAT STATE. |
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Lets see, the way I see it, lower class get free money/food from the gov, upper class get nice homes built WHEREVER they want, while the middle class get shit on.
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+ a kabillion. You build a life around your home...raise kids, build memories...and then it's GONE on a whim??? WTH is that??? This is awful. |
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Oh yeah.
And BTW, its the liberals on the SCOTUS that decided on this corporate give away. Where are the DU fucks now? |
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this NJ, not FL. or are you not talking about jeb bush? |
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Just because they don't want to sell their home I don't think they should be shot. Maybe some of em, but certainly not all of em. |
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What would John Galt do?
He would find as much toxic waste as possible and bury it in his back yard, then sell the house to people known to cook meth. Possibly also introduce some endangered species to his property. If all else fails, fill your house with tires and gas and torch it. |
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While I'm on the subject of Ayn Rand, let's reclassify the above to "People who produce more than they consume", "People who produce as much as they consume", and "People who produce less than they consume". |
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Tell me I HAVE to move outa my house and watch what happens!!!!!!
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I think he means the shitheads taking the homes. PS, Lettem rot in hell. |
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I honestly think this is a very very bad idea.
One day they are gonna try and move somebody out. Somebody who is old, and this house is all they got left. Lived in it their whole life. Or someone with a terminal illness who finally decides, fuck it. Or maybe it will just be someone who has had enough. And those poor bastards who try to evict the fellow will be dead, and so most likely will be the resident. A sad fuckin' day in America my friends. |
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"Negotiate"?
Somehow a scene comes to mind from the movie The Fifth Element, where Korben Dallas (Bruce Willis) says, "OK, who else wants to negotiate?" |
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You can skip shooting SCOTUS folks. They basically said that you get the government you elect, or, if you state is stupid enough to allow it, you deserve it.
Of course, the signifigance of that is lost on some folks. |
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Pointing that out but still ruling for it does NOT absolve them. |
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What, you don't think voters get what they deserve? I don't see where they failed in doing their job here. ETA, 1st, If you are in favor of holding Justices personally liable, I think that's a bad idea all around. 2nd, this decision said that the state's laws were judged correctly more than anything. A State's laws. So it's a state's right decision. Now, does your state respect your property or not? |
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It's happening in Rivera Beach Florida too, that probably made for some confusion between the two stories.
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SCOTUS ruling just put this issue into the hands of the states. Hmm, more states rights? Let the states make laws forbidding this kind of stuff.
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Is it time to start shooting the bastards yet? -- YEP
Our domestic enemies frighten me alot more than our foreign ones.-- Thats the TRUTH ! -------------------------------------- There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." --Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged "Once a government resorts to terror against its own population to get what it wants, it must keep using terror against its own population to get what it wants. A government that terrorizes its own people can never stop. If such a government ever lets the fear subside and rational thought return to the populace, that government is finished." --Michael Rivero "If those in charge of our society - politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television - can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves." -- Howard Zinn |
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Yup, the only thing that can destroy our freedom is the corruption of traditional values outlined in the declaration and Constitution. According to a companion article, the agreement between the city and Allied development of Hoboken, NJ was signed back in 2000. The people claim they didn't know the re-development plans applied to them until the 2001-2003 time frame. The city claims it was public record since 1995. The city claims the agreement can't be changed now because they will be sued. It seems the SC decision has encouraged the city to send "14-day" notices. Up to 18 people will receive these notices giving the homeowner 14 days to negotiate in "good faith". Essentially, it seems to me, the local government is forcing citizens to settle with the re-developer, a private company. Thirty (30) states have proposed or promise to propose legislation to limit eminent domain. The fact that they should feel the need to do that.... |
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No because the SCOTUS is one of the SAFEGUARDS that is suppossed to protect us from poor representation. And the SCOTUS failed to do their job by NOT RULING according to the laws of ED which specifically state land must be for PUBLIC USE ONLY. |
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Armed robbery is still armed robbery, even if you do it with a pen ("eminent domain") and enforce it with local law enforcment ("the hired guns").
It essentially says, "You will turn over your property to us, or we will have our enforcers shoot you." |
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Nice idea but if SCOTUS also rules that states could deprive it's citizens of ALL second amendment rights as well "if they decided to" would that be a good thing? The FF SPECIFICALLY ruled that Eminent Domain MUST be for public use ONLY. The SCOTUS ruling is a violation of that. It is a crime. |
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States rights are great. That said I happen to beleive that the provisions of The Constitution trump the states. The takeings clause spells out the the purpose of ED is to provide for public use not increased property values for private parties and a better tax base. I think they dropped the ball entirely. To say The Constitution applies only to the federal government is to say that Montana can sell you into slavery or execute you by meat grinder after sun baking you for a week just as long as thier own laws don't prevent it. I find that pretty hard to swallow as the force behind the rights in the document. |
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All that is needed is a few hundred shooting from property owners resisting 'gubment seizure. It's time to find out of American homeowners are willing to act like citizens or subjects.
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Courts just interpret the law. Can't we put pressure on congress to pass a law SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITING using ED to take land for commercial use?
This is bullcrap, and I wonder where the outrage is, other than on this board. |
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I was born and raised in Long Branch NJ and I can tell you the city as a whole (politically) is as corrupt as you have ever seen.
The town was corrupted originally by local mob guys and then by bribe offering contractors. When I was building it was typical for code and building inspectors to blatantly ask for "a small token to make things run smooth" My cousin is a builder there, he only has problems in Long Branch because he won't play their game. The Mayor of West Long Branch just got indicted for bribe taking and his brother is on the town council of Long Branch. www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050825/NEWS01/508250485 |
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