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Posted: 9/19/2005 12:02:13 PM EDT
interesting article

Scotland tops list of world's most violent countries
By Katrina Tweedie



A UNITED Nations report has labelled Scotland the most violent country in the developed world, with people three times more likely to be assaulted than in America.
England and Wales recorded the second highest number of violent assaults while Northern Ireland recorded the fewest.



The study, based on telephone interviews with victims of crime in 21 countries, found that more than 2,000 Scots were attacked every week, almost ten times the official police figures. They include non-sexual crimes of violence and serious assaults.

Violent crime has doubled in Scotland over the past 20 years and levels, per head of population, are now comparable with cities such as Rio de Janeiro, Johannesburg and Tbilisi.

The attacks have been fuelled by a “booze and blades” culture in the west of Scotland which has claimed more than 160 lives over the past five years. Since January there have been 13 murders, 145 attempted murders and 1,100 serious assaults involving knives in the west of Scotland. The problem is made worse by sectarian violence, with hospitals reporting higher admissions following Old Firm matches.

David Ritchie, an accident and emergency consultant at Glasgow’s Victoria Infirmary, said that the figures were a national disgrace. “I am embarrassed as a Scot that we are seeing this level of violence. Politicians must do something about this problem. This is a serious public health issue. Violence is a cancer in this part of the world,” he said.

Detective Chief Superintendent John Carnochan, head of the Strathclyde Police’s violence reduction unit, said the problem was chronic and restricting access to drink and limiting the sale of knives would at least reduce the problem.

The study, by the UN’s crime research institute, found that 3 per cent of Scots had been victims of assault compared with 1.2 per cent in America and just 0.1 per cent in Japan, 0.2 per cent in Italy and 0.8 per cent in Austria. In England and Wales the figure was 2.8 per cent.

Scotland was eighth for total crime, 13th for property crime, 12th for robbery and 14th for sexual assault. New Zealand had the most property crimes and sexual assaults, while Poland had the most robberies.

Chief Constable Peter Wilson, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland, questioned the figures. “It must be near impossible to compare assault figures from one country to the next based on phone calls,” he said.

“We have been doing extensive research into violent crime in Scotland for some years now and this has shown that in the vast majority of cases, victims of violent crime are known to each other. We do accept, however, that, despite your chances of being a victim of assault being low in Scotland, a problem does exist.”



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Link Posted: 9/19/2005 12:08:16 PM EDT
[#1]
So, it's like a whole country of Raiders fans, then?
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 12:11:31 PM EDT
[#2]
did you ever see trainspotting? after seeing that movie and the really bad mofo who was sorta small if i remember and you wouldna think him so dangerous, jam broken beer mug into a tourist's head several times in a local pub i figured scotland might not be all about golf, haggus and bagpipes.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 12:14:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/19/2005 12:20:50 PM EDT
[#4]
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 12:24:10 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
did you ever see trainspotting? after seeing that movie and the really bad mofo who was sorta small if i remember and you wouldna think him so dangerous, jam broken beer mug into a tourist's head several times in a local pub i figured scotland might not be all about golf, haggus and bagpipes.


You're talking about Robert Carlyle?

imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/30/024_AC066~Trainspotting.jpg

Eric The(MovieBuff)Hun




Best Soundtrack Ever
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 12:32:51 PM EDT
[#6]


Having spent 10 days there just last week.....

I saw exactly three police vehicles the whole time.  I saw exactly 4 policemen in uniform walking/riding their beat.

I saw no altercations, nor heard any angry words.

I did have a lorrie toot his horn at my errant entry into a round-a-bout, but that was it.

Must be a "Glasgow Thing".

Glad I stayed east and highland......
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 12:40:51 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
did you ever see trainspotting? after seeing that movie and the really bad mofo who was sorta small if i remember and you wouldna think him so dangerous, jam broken beer mug into a tourist's head several times in a local pub i figured scotland might not be all about golf, haggus and bagpipes.


You're talking about Robert Carlyle?

imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/30/024_AC066~Trainspotting.jpg

Eric The(MovieBuff)Hun




yea ... begbie.. i think the guy with the mustache..
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 1:02:17 PM EDT
[#8]
What are the gun laws like over there?
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 1:05:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/19/2005 1:09:06 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:


Scots wha hae wi Wallace bled...
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 1:39:12 PM EDT
[#11]
Choose life.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 1:42:53 PM EDT
[#12]

David Ritchie, an accident and emergency consultant at Glasgow’s Victoria Infirmary, said that the figures were a national disgrace. “I am embarrassed as a Scot that we are seeing this level of violence. Politicians must do something about this problem. This is a serious public health issue. Violence is a cancer in this part of the world,” he said.

Detective Chief Superintendent John Carnochan, head of the Strathclyde Police’s violence reduction unit, said the problem was chronic and restricting access to drink and limiting the sale of knives would at least reduce the problem.



Oh brother.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 2:33:38 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
What are the gun laws like over there?



They are uncivilized in that respect... You can't own firearms there.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 5:29:16 PM EDT
[#14]
That figures, they're descended from crazy mountain folk that come down to loot, rape, and pillage Olde Skool.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 5:33:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/19/2005 5:37:04 PM EDT
[#16]
Damned soccer hooligans!  Always getting piss drunk and knocking heads.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 5:41:51 PM EDT
[#17]
How do you Sean Connery became James Bond?
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 5:43:31 PM EDT
[#18]
Scotland and Ireland were the home of the original redneck "culture".

             



Many words commonly  used in America today such as Hillbillies and Rednecks have their origins in our Scottish roots. While the  following three terms (hillbilly, redneck and cracker) are associated today with the American South and southern  culture, their origins are distinctly Scottish and Ulster-Scottish  (Scots-Irish), and date to the mass immigration of Scottish Lowland and Ulster  Presbyterians to America during the 1700’s.

www.scotshistoryonline.co.uk/rednecks/rednecks.html

Read Thomas Sowell's new book, Black Rednecks and White Liberals.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 5:50:23 PM EDT
[#19]
They think it's bad now and they want to restrict access to alcohol. We tried that one and look how it turned out.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 5:53:25 PM EDT
[#20]
News to me....guess the need the highlander.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 5:55:52 PM EDT
[#21]
where's Connor Macleod when you need him
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 5:59:35 PM EDT
[#22]
Funny all of those countries and cities with high crime rates also have draconian gun laws....and the American left uses those countries as the model for what they want here in America.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 6:04:50 PM EDT
[#23]

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where's Connor Macleod when you need him



Juan Sanchez Villa-Lobos Ramirez at your service!

You can not DIE Macleod, you ARE I M M O R T A L!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 6:10:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/19/2005 9:00:45 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:


Having spent 10 days there just last week.....

I saw exactly three police vehicles the whole time.  I saw exactly 4 policemen in uniform walking/riding their beat.

I saw no altercations, nor heard any angry words.

I did have a lorrie toot his horn at my errant entry into a round-a-bout, but that was it.

Must be a "Glasgow Thing".

Glad I stayed east and highland......



Go back, wear a Celtic jersey in a Rangers area, and get back to us on that one.  
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 9:04:30 PM EDT
[#26]
William Wallace was a Scotsman.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 9:09:40 PM EDT
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Quoted:


The attacks have been fuelled by a “booze and blades” culture in the west of Scotland which has claimed more than 160 lives over the past five years. Since January there have been 13 murders, 145 attempted murders and 1,100 serious assaults involving knives in the west of Scotland. The problem is made worse by sectarian violence, with hospitals reporting higher admissions following Old Firm matches.



That's Rangers .vs Celtic soccer games for those that don't know what that means.  Celtic is a team associated with Ireland and Catholics, Rangers is strictly Protestant.  I think it was the 70s before a Catholic ever played for Rangers.  Wearing the wrong colored scarf or jersey can get you killed in certain parts of Glasgow and Northern Ireland.  




       

Link Posted: 9/19/2005 9:14:42 PM EDT
[#28]
You know, Scotland has a form of martial arts.  It's called "Feck Yoo!"  It's mostly a lot of headbutting and kicking people while they're on the ground.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 9:16:20 PM EDT
[#29]
Ahh, makes me so proud to be half Scot
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 9:28:19 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:


Having spent 10 days there just last week.....

I saw exactly three police vehicles the whole time.  I saw exactly 4 policemen in uniform walking/riding their beat.

I saw no altercations, nor heard any angry words.

I did have a lorrie toot his horn at my errant entry into a round-a-bout, but that was it.

Must be a "Glasgow Thing".

Glad I stayed east and highland......



Was in Scotland (Glasgow) for the past 10 months for school. Got back end of June and yes its a violently socialist blinded by there own ignorance country. They claim guns are bad and cops dont nor should have them as they stab one another in drunken stoopers over Football. They cannot spank their kids as it is illegal, so their kids mouth off to everybody and their mom and get away with it. They burn down buildings and vandalize anything and everything they can. Scotland is a mess and going down hill. They IMO are a lost cause unless Jesus sweeps through with revival.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 9:34:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/20/2005 10:25:19 AM EDT
[#32]
"Detective Chief Superintendent John Carnochan, head of the Strathclyde Police’s violence reduction unit, said the problem was chronic and restricting access to drink and limiting the sale of knives would at least reduce the problem."

They've already outlawed guns.  So now they need to get rid of knives, and then they'll have to get rid of baseball bats, followed by paper plates and writing instruments. When will people realize that social problems are not the result of violence, but rather violence is the result of social problems?
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 10:56:38 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
really bad mofo who was sorta small



Robert Carlyle

Same guy that was in the Full Monty
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 2:57:52 PM EDT
[#34]

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It's this man's fault!

images.google.com/images?q=tbn:FeC5gaaIkiIJ:www.simpsoncrazy.com/gallery/town



That reminds me, I think Fat Bastard was a Scot.

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