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Posted: 9/17/2005 11:43:14 AM EDT
.......he's a dork.

He's eleven and in his first year of middle school (6th grade), and he took band as an elective.

Being the proud, supportive father that I am, I always encourage him to do what he enjoys and give it his best shot and never quit. Well, I just got back from his first fund raising carwash (I bought $20 worth of tickets) and just saw how goofy all band kids really are.

Even as an adult, I now know that I was absolutely right all through junior high and high school. Band kids are dorks.

I am now paying for all the times I wouldn't associate with that crowd way back then. I helped other band parents dry cars.

Karma really exists.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 11:45:17 AM EDT
[#1]
Maybe he's looking forward to band camp.  
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 11:47:53 AM EDT
[#2]
Your son is a geekhey He is out of the house doing something.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 11:49:04 AM EDT
[#3]
<--- Band geek here!


I played the clarinet and sax in the marching band. I played the bass in the jazz band, and the guitar at football games. It taught me alot of things: Teamwork, discipline and the value of hard work.

Oh..

...I could also make the cheerleaders lift their skirts up on demand, by taking requests in exchange during football games.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 11:50:00 AM EDT
[#4]
I was in band
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 11:52:07 AM EDT
[#5]
Some day, your son will be telling stories about "This one day, at band camp, . . ."
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 11:55:24 AM EDT
[#6]
When he hits High School, tell him to take Technical Theater. It's like shop class, building sets, rigging lights, that kind of thing. But with a difference.....theater geek girls are born exhibitionists, and will get naked at the drop of a hat. Waaaaaayyyyy better than woodshop....


GT
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 11:55:31 AM EDT
[#7]
Band geek replying here.  Yes many of the kids who take band as an elective are more of the intelectual type rather than the sporty type.  Some are not.  The head drum major my freshman year was also the head cheerleader and graduated first or second in her class.  Not all school are the same, but being in band can have a very positive effect on many students.  If he goes on to a high school with a marching band, much of the physical and discaplinary practicing is very similar to light wight military training.  There are other advantages as well.  Depending on the size of the school and the size of the band, many of which start practice for their compitition and demonstration (football games)season just after school ends the year before,  he could enter high school already knowing as much as 10-12% of the students, spread accross all grades.  This can be very socially and emotionally encouarging.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 11:57:51 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Maybe he's looking forward to band camp.  


Link Posted: 9/17/2005 11:58:18 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:06:34 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Some day, your son will be telling stories about "This one day, at band camp, . . ."



+1 Did you notice him staring at a particular band chick all day long?

And honestly do you really want him associating with the thugs and gang bangers who are involved in sports these days?
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:12:01 PM EDT
[#11]
I was in Orchestra, played the Cello.  

Your son is too young to appreciate this right now, but let's just say that band and orchestra chicks are a largely untapped resource.  I can remember many a "practice sessions" in the pratice rooms with some of the more attractive chicks.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:14:04 PM EDT
[#12]
I was in band; Drum Major my senior year, All-State french horn, Salutatorian.

I also lettered in basketball, went hunting and fishing, and was a Eagle Scout.

If that's geeky, so be it.

Give him a break and be a supportive dad.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:14:16 PM EDT
[#13]
Be supportive... maybe he'll be able to do a trombone solo!

Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:15:57 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Be supportive... maybe he'll be able to do a trombone solo!

web.bentley.edu/students/b/benton_kerr/american-pie%20(jim).jpg



Now I don't care who you are; that's funny.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:17:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:19:06 PM EDT
[#16]
I used to play football in high school.  I thought the band guys were geeks too.  They I realized how many of them were dating cheerleaders and always had girlfriends they met from other bands.  Then I realized that there is a big advantage to being in the band.  Lots of those guys end up going to schools like Ohio State, where they are worshipped (TBDBITL).  They can also get some scholarship cash for school too.

Sometimes it pays to be a geek.

Like this one time at band camp............ - American Pie
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:21:08 PM EDT
[#17]
The only kids I knew who were getting any pie in middle or high school were in band like me . . .

Congrats.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:23:58 PM EDT
[#18]
Another band geek here!  

Some of my best memories in high school were from band, wrestling, track and football.  Concert band and Jazz Band were a lot of fun.  Jazz band was my favorite though.  We performed at weddings and competitions all over.  Noone ever called me a geek to my face though.  I must of missed out on that.  

In the sixth grade it's pretty funny.  We butchered the easiest of "Mary had a little lamb" songs.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:24:53 PM EDT
[#19]
<------ Played the trumpet.
Married to a former cheerleader six years my junior.

Go figure.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:25:42 PM EDT
[#20]
One other little thing I forgot.  Before the damn parents cought on,  you didn't see many of the girls running off to the bathroom to change into uniforms.  Band room and bus were just fine with them.  After the parent supported "no visable underwear"  rule went into effect, some of those good times stopped.  Some of the girls, though, just changed any way and still didn't show any underwear.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:29:18 PM EDT
[#21]
another band geek here, made a career of it.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:32:01 PM EDT
[#22]
Better a "dork" than a stoner... I'll take a dork over a druggie any day.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:37:33 PM EDT
[#23]
It could be way worse............

Does he wear his pants at waist level ?

Does he wear a Ballcap sideways ?

Does he use speak ghetto slang ? ( Ayo what up pops ? Me takin' band is aight wit cho ? )

And so on and so on

As long as he's flying right being a Band Dork ain't so bad


And no I wasn't a Band Dork

One teacher nicknamed me The Phantom because I was never in school
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:41:01 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Maybe he's looking forward to band camp.  


+1-i heard they have a lot of fun at band camp
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:42:54 PM EDT
[#25]

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Some of the girls, though, just changed any way and still didn't show any underwear.





There ya go; where there's a will, there's a way. If she's not wearing any underwear then you won't SEE any 'visible underwear'.


I knew quite a few band geeks in school. To me, the term band geek is a badge of honor. If I had to do it all over again I would've learned to play something and been a band geek.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:43:03 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
.......he's a dork.

He's eleven and in his first year of middle school (6th grade), and he took band as an elective.

Being the proud, supportive father that I am, I always encourage him to do what he enjoys and give it his best shot and never quit. Well, I just got back from his first fund raising carwash (I bought $20 worth of tickets) and just saw how goofy all band kids really are.

Even as an adult, I now know that I was absolutely right all through junior high and high school. Band kids are dorks.

I am now paying for all the times I wouldn't associate with that crowd way back then. I helped other band parents dry cars.

Karma really exists.



Glad you weren't my dad.  You come of sounding like a total jerk.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:47:42 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Better a "dork" than a stoner... I'll take a dork over a druggie any day.


+1
<----------Band Geek here.  Hey man, I figure an instrument is a great way to teach a kid about self discipline and lots of other things (like studies showing that kids who participate in musical/artistic activity generally have better scores in math and languages).  Hell, because of my horn playing, I've toured Europe twice, played rock concerts in Carnegie Hall, been on ABC Sports, been a member of the U.S. Army band "Pershing's Own", and oh......and the chicks

It ain't all that bad.  Plus there are a LOT of worse things your kid could be involved in, so be thankful.


R
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 12:50:45 PM EDT
[#28]
The skills involved in reading and playing music are closely associated with language and reading skills AND especially math.  

You will note that many of the top students in each school are also in the band or orchestra by a very large percentage.  They are academic high achievers.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 1:20:14 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
<--- Band geek here!


I played the clarinet and sax in the marching band. I played the bass in the jazz band, and the guitar at football games. It taught me alot of things: Teamwork, discipline and the value of hard work.

Oh..

...I could also make the cheerleaders lift their skirts up on demand, by taking requests in exchange during football games.



Also a band geek....Clarinet in orchestra, winds, and marching band.  Tenor saxaphone (spelled out for arfcom perverts) in Jazz band.  Cant say we ever did a carwash....
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 1:34:36 PM EDT
[#30]
As a person who participated in no extra curricular activities through school.  Let me tell you that the athletes and band members, in general, have a better sense of time management and generally a stronger desire to do well in school.  Most of my friends, who also didn't get involved in extra curricular activities, are now pot heads or drink too much.  I am 21 just so you know what perspective I am coming from.

Good for you for supporting him even though you think it is dorky, just be sure you teach him not to take crap from anybody and not to let his friends take crap either.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 2:17:11 PM EDT
[#31]
I was in band from 6th - 11th grade.  We did show style marching in high school which I think is much more fun to be in and to watch than regular marching. Since my school revolved around winning football games, most of the "cool" people in the school were either in football, cheerleading, or band. There were people who actually got in band just because it was cool, even though they couldn’t play a note on any instrument.

Skills like self discipline, determination, and time management are all a part of becoming a musician.

I’m still a trumpet player, and I play with some different groups, including a brass band. Lots of good paying gigs come up for that around mardi gras.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 2:38:59 PM EDT
[#32]
DesertRider
Maybe he's the next Tommy Lee???  Is the
Proud-o-Meter rising??  LOL  
He's fine, he is just a kid! worry when
he's 18 and a dweeb.

Like the SNL skit "Geek Dweeb or Spaz"

Link Posted: 9/17/2005 2:53:35 PM EDT
[#33]
<------Trumpet player here. Brass has class!

Know how many chics I scored in band?!?!  There's the flag girls, the flute and clarinet females, etc...   All my girlfriends and good times were related to being in band.  I've got an album dedicated to the trips we took from San Diego, Oregon and other places in between.  Band was a blast!  Your son's gonna have fun.

Link Posted: 9/17/2005 3:01:34 PM EDT
[#34]
After school detention was held in the band classroom,does that count ?
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 3:16:18 PM EDT
[#35]
There have been some medical reports stating that music instruction helps kids (all inclusive) develop better mentally.

Don't quote me exactly - I'll let you search - but basically 'band is a good thing.'

I played the clarinet for one year way back prior to Junior High.

I took piano lessons for about 6 years - then my dad got pissed because I would only practice the songs I liked and gave the piano to our church.  He had a temper.  I was about 12 then - and playing a ton of baseball.

I played my guitar in The Pit for our HS musical production of Mame.  And YEAH BUDDY, the cast party was a blast.  

Haven't touched a musical instrument in almost 10 years...
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 3:27:51 PM EDT
[#36]

Some day your son might get curious about his pop's life, and the internet archive and search features will be WAAAAAY better than what we have now.

He'll read this thread, and you'll just wonder why they cut off your Jello ration at the old folks home, and why your normal young blonde nurse Christy has been replaced with Helga, the 300 pound Eastern European immigrant nurse of indeterminate gender.

Jim
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 3:29:23 PM EDT
[#37]
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 3:30:04 PM EDT
[#38]
Band is one step lower than soccer.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 3:36:06 PM EDT
[#39]
I caught my son looking at porn on the net he jsut turned 13. actually his mom caught him and she freaked out, I kinda laughed it off but she made me turn off his internet.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 3:45:52 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
<------Trumpet player here. Brass has class!

Know how many chics I scored in band?!?!  There's the flag girls....



Ahh yes, the flaggettes

Fond memories.

Ended up marrying one of the clarinet girls.  We never dated in high school though.

Link Posted: 9/17/2005 4:01:12 PM EDT
[#41]
Kinda funny this came up.

My sister found my HS yearbooks and sent them to me about 2 months ago.  I thought they were gone forever - haven't seen them in more than 20 years...
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 4:08:45 PM EDT
[#42]
Friend of mine's pre-teen son (who is now a guiter player) went through a stage when he liked show tunes......that's gay.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 4:12:10 PM EDT
[#43]
Band geek since 4th grade.

Its taken me up from districts, to regionals, to all-states, to performing at the Carnegie Hall and the Kimmel Center.

If your son wants to do it, let him.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 4:14:03 PM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 4:28:40 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:
.......he's a dork.

He's eleven and in his first year of middle school (6th grade), and he took band as an elective.

Being the proud, supportive father that I am, I always encourage him to do what he enjoys and give it his best shot and never quit. Well, I just got back from his first fund raising carwash (I bought $20 worth of tickets) and just saw how goofy all band kids really are.

Even as an adult, I now know that I was absolutely right all through junior high and high school. Band kids are dorks.

I am now paying for all the times I wouldn't associate with that crowd way back then. I helped other band parents dry cars.

Karma really exists.



Glad you weren't my dad.  You come of sounding like a total jerk.



+1  Dude, I hope your kidding.  If not, then at least be glad you got a son... dork or not.  Shit, now that I think about it, I can't believe you posted this.

What you witnessed WAS NOT GOOFY KIDS.  They were young adults that are fortunate enough to "relax" and be themselves.  You witnessed innocence before the world fucks them up.  This kind of crap you should keep between you and your wife... not posted on the internet.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 9:13:19 AM EDT
[#46]
My boy plays trumpet in the band.  He made all region last year.  He competes in math and science contests and went to state in those.  He was state recognized in the Duke Talent search and is always in the top 3 grade wise.  

Nerd, right?

Nope.  All Star baseball, played 3rd base on a team that came one game from winning State this summer.  He's the starting strong safety on the 8th grade A team.  He's leading the team in tackles.   This week he hit the running back so hard it knocked his helmet off.  

Oh, and he's "gone out' with most of the cheerleaders.  He's very popular.  

A lot of the best football players are also in the band.  

Encourage your boy to be well rounded.  You'll be glad you did  later.
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