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Posted: 9/10/2005 1:34:27 PM EDT
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Because they are waiting for "any activity by the government that unduly infringes upon the rights of lawful gun owners" before they
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Posted: 9/10/2005 1:38:24 PM EDT
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The ACLU is run by hardcore lefties they either are against or ignore the 2nd ammendment. The NRA spends most of our money trying to solicit more money. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 1:39:46 PM EDT
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Thats a good question.
and people often wonder what the NRA is doing. Their show of inaction(or lack of publicized action) will eventually bite them in the ass when another incident like New Orleans happenes again. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 1:40:50 PM EDT
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David, that is a excellent question.........OK, all your NRA kool-aide drinkers care to chime in, and exsplain why they don't?
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Posted: 9/10/2005 1:46:23 PM EDT
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Ok all you NRA bashers now many lawsuits does the NRA currently have open to protect gun rights? Obviously since you are bashing the NRA you know the answer...so please tell us.
The NRA does defend the 2nd the same way the ACLU does the others the only reason you think they don't is the liberal media loves to get the ACLU press anytime they want...just like the anti-gunners get, at the same time they never talk about what the NRA is doing and if they happen to have a story it always portrays guns in a bad light. So NRA bashers what is your solution? Disband the NRA and let everyone fend for themselves? Until you offer a viable soluation to your own question, STFU. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 1:47:21 PM EDT
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Any actual NRA officials on site or is this on the "Extremists lists"? |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 1:51:16 PM EDT
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Unless you are reading a different post NO ONE said ANYTHING in this one about disbanding it. I AM an NRA member and I am VERY dissaponted about their inaction on NO. If they do NOTHING they will not see another dime of my money, the LEAST they can do is speak out against these actions and they have NOT said a WORD. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 1:52:34 PM EDT
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I think someone from the NRA talked to the Avilas at the Shot Show about some kind of affiliation with the site, but I never heard anything more about it. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 2:18:48 PM EDT
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well since you are so keen about the NRA.........you tell us, go ahead prove us all wrong, here is your big chance to tell us we are all wrong, and you are right......cite the court cases that the NRA is actively filed or is fighting in a court, it shouldn't be that hard, should it? |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 3:02:30 PM EDT
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+2 (I am a Member but I gotta say it seems as if most of the money goes for mailings, I get several a week sometimes. All fear mongering, gonna ban this, gonna ban that, Hillary this, Hillary that. What I do not see is what actions are being taken. Thats all I frikkin ask for, some heads up on what course of action is being used. I never hear crap on that part, only "we need money to do something." I am at the point of "No more money TIL you do something." They have become PC in their own way. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 3:17:31 PM EDT
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the aclu can lie and the media will back them up. the nra can tell the truth and the media will twist it to make gun owners look like domestic terrorists. the liberal establisment would also like gun owners to believe that the nra is ineffective and undeserving of support. they would like the only effective lobbing organization for gun owners to go away so they can have their way with the constitution.
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Posted: 9/10/2005 3:38:56 PM EDT
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Because the NRA is spending its money printing dictionaries so it can help stamp out illiteracy. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 3:42:26 PM EDT
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You see the answer to that every day on this site.
The difference is the vision of their respective members and supporters. As a result, the ACLU operates strategically while the NRA operates tactically. That is, the ACLU carefully selects its test cases. This can include selecting cases that will go before friendly judges. The ACLU often moves slowly and incrementally. Sometimes they won’t take a case simply to avoid the risk of a bad precedent if they lose. And its members accept this approach. OTOH, most NRA members (and non-member gun owners) would never accept that approach. They want instant gratification (and they want it now!!  ). If the current NRA leadership won’t fight every battle every time, the NRA leaders stand a good chance of losing their jobs (and, upon occasion, they have).They are expected to pick battles simply to fight them instead of to win them.  |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 3:52:23 PM EDT
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Just food for thought, but the NRA can't get too strong in relation to the grabbers. Taking guns and defending the 2nd is big business for these status quo corporate organizations.
If the NRA won the fight once and for all, what would happen to the mailers soliciting more and more money? 
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Posted: 9/10/2005 3:55:39 PM EDT
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When I have a legal full auto M-16, AK-47, MP-5 or whatever I want to buy as far as firearms are concerned in my safe, then I'll believe the NRA hype. In case nobody realizes, our 2nd Amendment rights are being infringed at this very second and the NRA is where? Give me a reason to join, tell me they're going after the unconstitutional bans and I'll give them as much money as I can afford.
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Posted: 9/10/2005 4:00:00 PM EDT
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Im betting none of you ever write you reps
christ you are as bad as the " victims" of the hurricaine whos gonna fight for me? Get up off your ass Heres the links if you are too fucking lazy to write a 100 word letter than you are hopeless THE HOUSE THE SENATE |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 4:39:40 PM EDT
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There isn't much caselaw to back up the NRA in lawsuits. Most of the Supreme Court decisions have not gone our way, and aren't likely too. The ACLU on the other hand, has a pretty stong series of decisions backing them. A lot of their cases seem to be shooting ducks in a barrel from a legal standpoint
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Posted: 9/10/2005 4:49:32 PM EDT
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I believe the ACLU is funded by the Federal Government.
No money worries. DanM |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 4:53:26 PM EDT
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ACLU is funded by contributions, no .gov money that I know of. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 6:53:39 PM EDT
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I think 199 came very close to the real reason. The NRA has a lot to loose if it looses a case; our gun rights! It has to be very careful about fighting bad cases. The Gov. likes to find those cases to keep pushing it's cause. Look how they've conducted the "War on Drugs". A little at a time and against the really bad people. Then the fix is in for the not so bad people to be treated the same. What does the ACLU loose when it looses?
I wish the NRA would be more agressive but there aren't that many judges out there that can be counted on to back up the gun owners and it usually isn't a case of an otherwise lawabiding gun owner simply sitting at home and the cops breaking down the door over pre/post ban type laws. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 7:04:56 PM EDT
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Yep. Like or not, we must tread lightly usually. In this case I'd like to see some ass kicking though. It is, after all, fundamental.
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Posted: 9/10/2005 7:10:51 PM EDT
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Because the L stands for Liberals not Liberties.
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Posted: 9/10/2005 7:12:14 PM EDT
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It's amazing that the ACLU hasn't come to the aid of
the NO residents whos firearms are being confiscated, and forcibly relocated. Commie Fucks ACLU is in dire need of a restructuring, and/or dissolusion. myit |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 7:12:19 PM EDT
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One other thing, the NRA does not charge in unless they know they can win. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 7:14:24 PM EDT
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Actually, the NRA has been pretty vocal about supporting the first amendment.
And just about the only thing I've seen the ACLU get bothered about is when someone dares to put anything of a religious nature anywhere anyone else can see it, or when anarchists cause a disturbance. you won't see the ACLU going to bat over the 9th or 10th amendments, thats for sure. |
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