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Posted: 9/8/2005 10:51:01 PM EDT
Use it as is. Change it as you see fit. Use it as inspiration to write your own... I don't care. Just as long as you E-mail them NOW!!!
www.nrahq.org/contact.asp secure.nraila.org/Contact.aspx
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My wife & I both sent one. Along with 20+ others to senators, congressmen, ect.
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thanks for letting me steal that. I was planning on writing one after my job interview, but that made it easier, and was probably much better worded than I would have come up with.
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Email already sent earlier this morning. Thanks for posting.
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This is the text of my thread to the NRA that I sent them this morning. Additionally I have contacted my Congressman and Senators voicing my outrage at the firearms confiscation taking place in NOLA.
Gentlemen, please explain why the NRA has remained silent on the subject of firearms confiscation ordered by government officials in New Orleans Louisiana? Why are people having their Second Amendment and Fourth Amendment rights violated while the nation’s premier advocate for firearm owners says nothing? As a Life Member since 1971 I am extremely disappointed in your lack of response. Are you a voice and a guardian of our Constitutional Rights or have you descended into the realm of fat cat Washington lobbyists with no passion for your cause unless you’ve had your palm crossed recently? Gentlemen: DO SOMETHING NOW BEFORE THIS BECOMES THE GOVERNMENT’S SOP. AS AN ORIGANIZATION WE NEED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION CANNOT BE SUBJECT TO THE WHIMS OF ELECTED OFFICIALS! "Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters." — Daniel Webster "Whenever you force good people to jump through hoops before they exercise their rights, you give rogue bureaucrats a chance to harass decent citizens. We have a Bill of Rights because government does not always act in our best interest." - Larry Pratt MY EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU WILL VOCALLY AND BY ALL LEGAL MEANS NECESSARY PUT FORTH EFFORTS TO ENSURE THAT THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF ALL AMERICANS TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS WILL NOT BE FURTHER INFRINGED UPON. IN SHORT GENTLEMEN: GET OFF YOUR BUTTS AND GET TO WORK! As NYPatriot indicated above: Feel free to use my letter as you see fit. However make sure you contact the NRA and voice your concerns. JUST DO IT! DO IT NOW! |
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Tag, gonna email them tonight and also see if the ILA has any news up...
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I've been on the phone with NRA-ILA this morning and both my Federal Reps and Senators. The NOLA PoPo is backing off the forced evac crap in the new conference on now... The NRA lady I talked with said they're trying to get substantiated evidence of actual confiscation and are monitoring the situation closely. I told her these folks need help NOW!
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Done. Thanks for the template. I love cut&paste. They are sure going to get a lot of e-mails from NYPatriot.
You have a pretty weird member number... Thanks NYP... good job on putting this out. I'll probably send the same letter to JPFO... they'll probably jump all over this with their crack team of lawyers. |
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Sent already; but keep hitting them... not just the NRA either... your Congressmen and Senators need to know about this and know that it is absolutely unacceptable not only in these special circumstances; but especially in these types of circumstances.
Here is my draft: "On September 8, 2005, ABC News broadcast a report stating that New Orleans Police were forcibly confiscating firearms from peacable citizens in the hurricane affected area. These same citizens had been relying on these firearms for protection and offered no threat to police; but were forcibly disarmed and then released back into the affected area without the means to protect family or property. As a member who wants to know that his money is being put to good use, I want to know what the NRA intends to do about this gross violation of our Second Amendment rights and what pressure they can bring at both the federal and local level. I am willing to assist in this effort in whatever way I can." With a little modification, the same letter can be sent to your elected reps as well. |
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done !! |
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Sent letters to all my states Senators, congressmen, and the NRA this morning.
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Same here
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Heres what I got back.
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From this thread:
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=388026&page=7
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These are the replys I received from NRA /HQ and the NRA/ILA this afternoon:
From NRA/ILA ILA-Contact <[email protected]> to me More options 1:23 pm (26 minutes ago) Numerous media sources are reporting on an apparent campaign by New Orleans city authorities to confiscate lawfully-owned firearms from people in the city. Louisiana statute does grant the government, during a state of emergency, broad powers in regulating and controlling firearms. However, we have seen not just with Hurricane Katrina, but other similar situations, that when police are unable to control the criminal element, people turn to the one freedom that protects all others-the Second Amendment. While one can certainly understand the dire predicaments of all those affected by Hurricane Katrina, as we have learned throughout history, campaigns to disarm the lawful do nothing to disarm the criminal. And in truth, these restrictions make citizens less safe. Despite the valiant efforts of many law enforcement officers and rescue workers, too many of those left in the wake of Katrina are ultimately responsible for their own security and safety and that of their families and loved ones; especially when communication is virtually non-existent and police can't be quickly summoned to respond to calls for help. At these times, lawful gun ownership is paramount to personal safety. Of course, the entire situation in New Orleans is constantly in flux. But rest assured NRA is monitoring this situation very closely and will address any activity by the government that unduly infringes upon the rights of lawful gun owners at the appropriate time. As we learn more, we will report to our members accordingly. In the interim, however, we join with all Americans in offering our thoughts, prayers, and assistance to the victims and survivors of this terrible natural disaster. Sincerely, Katrina Ruminski NRA-ILA This one is from NRA/HQ ILA-Contact <[email protected]> to me More options 1:45 pm (9 minutes ago) Thank you for contacting the NRA-ILA. Numerous media sources are reporting on an apparent campaign by New Orleans city authorities to confiscate lawfully-owned firearms from people in the city. Louisiana statute does grant the government, during a state of emergency, broad powers in regulating and controlling firearms. However, we have seen not just with Hurricane Katrina, but other similar situations, that when police are unable to control the criminal element, people turn to the one freedom that protects all others-the Second Amendment. While one can certainly understand the dire predicaments of all those affected by Hurricane Katrina, as we have learned throughout history, campaigns to disarm the lawful do nothing to disarm the criminal. And in truth, these restrictions make citizens less safe. Despite the valiant efforts of many law enforcement officers and rescue workers, too many of those left in the wake of Katrina are ultimately responsible for their own security and safety and that of their families and loved ones; especially when communication is virtually non-existent and police can't be quickly summoned to respond to calls for help. At these times, lawful gun ownership is paramount to personal safety. Of course, the entire situation in New Orleans is constantly in flux. But rest assured NRA is monitoring this situation very closely and will address any activity by the government that unduly infringes upon the rights of lawful gun owners at the appropriate time. As we learn more, we will report to our members accordingly. In the interim, however, we join with all Americans in offering our thoughts, prayers, and assistance to the victims and survivors of this terrible natural disaster. Sincerely, Amanda Millward Contact type: Refuse To Be A Victim As you can see it's the same letter. I realize that each inquiry cannot be individually answered, however, I called after receiving the replys and talked with a young lady at the NRA/ILA. She said they had been swamped with calls all day and that this issue was getting top priority. She indicated the NRA was going to issue a public statement shortly, and the NRA Leadership was taking this issue very seriously. |
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text of my e-mail to NRA about this situation
what is the NRA doing about the abuse of our 2nd Ammendment right in New Orleans? Right now the NOPD is actively disarming law adibing citizens whilst leaving criminals and "private security" guards armed. If this were an abuse of the 1st ammendment the ACLU would have a team of lawyers there to deal with this. I expect serious action from NRA on this or next time the authorities will be even quicker to try and disarm law-abiding citizens. |
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I changed your wording around a bit just to make it appear it wasn't a copy & paste job (even though it is). My e-mail has been sent. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Is anyone in NO resisting??
Just curious since their seem to always be so many keyboard commandos who claim the old, "Pry it from my cold dead fingers." cliche. I would expect even more of the die hards (pun intended) in the deep south. Not even one resister??? It would be great news coverage. Another Ruby Ridge victory for us prolly. |
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"I am writing in regards to the fact that all firearms are being confiscated in New Orleans. This is it, what the NRA has been founded to fight against. So far I only see a single news blurb on the ILA web site. What is the NRA going to do now that there is no 2nd Amendment when the people of New Orleans need it the most? What are WE going to do?"
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Looks like I got the standard canned response a number of other people received as well.
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Here's the response I received at 3:31pm:
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Thanks for the use of your letter. Sent them an email, and my wife, who is also a member will probably do the same tomorrow. |
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Can LA law trump the 2nd Amendment. I would think not, but maybe the courts have to decide that. What a mess ! The letter really doesn't say much . . . . . |
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My response to the milquetoast mass mailing that went out from the NRA-ILA...
Again, use it however you see fit! Keep up the pressure people... |
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done !! |
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we'll also need to bump this for the weekday crew. some of us have lives and actually get out on the weekends!
sent my emails to the nra, nra-ila, both sens, my rep, and the white house. |
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I understand what you're saying, but this definitely doesn't need the weekend off. The NRA needs to be outraged and at the very least be demanding an official statement from the Gov. The only thing that may make them do that is a flood of correspondence for members and potential members. |
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Added a little to it... thanks again NYP |
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Done in triplicate / different versions / sent at different times of the day and on different days.
Keep it up! (one version) Sir, During the aftermath of Hurricane Ivan I depended on my own protection. I had to stand vigil over my property in Grande Lagoon with a firearm. I speak from hardcore experience that my weapon was my leverage for safety and peace when nothing but destruction was abound. The local LEOs applauded my efforts to help myself and left me alone to help my neighbors. Now, take a look in New Orleans... What are you doing about the abuse of our 2nd Ammendment right in New Orleans? I realize that the area is not your responsibility, but how can we allow the confiscation of weapons that people are depending on for protection? It has already be demonstrated that people cannot depend on the local, state or federal government for total help during times like this. Right now the NOPD and NATIONAL GUARD of all groups are actively disarming law adibing citizens whilst leaving criminals and "private security" guards armed. If this were an abuse of the 1st ammendment the ACLU would have a team of lawyers there to deal with this. Have you seen the latest footage out of that area? Citizens are being intimidated, weapons confiscated, rounded up, and treated like 3rd world country refuse. Remaining silent and doing nothing is the equivalent to agreeing to these tatics. Therfore I am making my thoughts known to you, my elected US Congressman, that I am disgusted and disappointed with what is going on. I expect nothing less than serious action from our elected leaders to stop this today.The Bill of Rights has been used as a door mat and THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE. Sir, please step up on this issue today, and let it be known that the citizens of North West Florida will not be treated like this during the next disaster. Let it be known that you will not stand for this treatment of ANY US CITIZEN. Sincere Regards. Mudflapper Pensacola FL cc Joe Scarborough |
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I sent one on their web site....
Why has the NRA sat silent while citizen's are disarmed in New Orleans? Do not insult me by saying you are "studying the situation". I never want to see video like I saw. You should be in court stopping this unconstitutional behavior! If the NRA can't or worse yet, won't stop this from happening, ask yourself, what good are you? I'm sure I'll get the same canned answer. Gary |
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Got this response this morning... may be a dupe. There's so many NRA threads when you do a search it's hard to tell which thread is actually being read.
My only question is to whom and.or where did they make this statement? Did they use on of the cable news networks like FNC or CNN or did they make this statement in print in some obscure conservative periodical or on their website? I don't remember hearing about them being on the news so I assume it was basically unheard by anyone who should have actually heard it. |
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Here is what I got and my reply.....these guys are weak IMHO.
Dear Amanda, I expect the NRA-ILA to take an aggressive stance in defense of our 2nd amendment rights, not to sit passively by and just "monitor the situation". That is OUTRAGEOUS! I am not paying dues to you to sit and monitor. I could get two college kids with a laptop to do that. Your response to this situation has me questioning whether you are the right organization to be out front protecting our 2nd amendment rights. This was not your finest hour. Regards, Gary Membership Number: xxxxxxxxxxx 9/14/2005 In a message dated 9/12/2005 9:27:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Numerous media sources are reporting on an apparent campaign by New Orleans city authorities to confiscate lawfully-owned firearms from people in the city. Louisiana statute does grant the government, during a state of emergency, broad powers in regulating and controlling firearms. However, we have seen not just with Hurricane Katrina, but other similar situations, that when police are unable to control the criminal element, people turn to the one freedom that protects all others-the Second Amendment. While one can certainly understand the dire predicaments of all those affected by Hurricane Katrina, as we have learned throughout history, campaigns to disarm the lawful do nothing to disarm the criminal. And in truth, these restrictions make citizens less safe. Despite the valiant efforts of many law enforcement officers and rescue workers, too many of those left in the wake of Katrina are ultimately responsible for their own security and safety and that of their families and loved ones; especially when communication is virtually non-existent and police can't be quickly summoned to respond to calls for help. At these times, lawful gun ownership is paramount to personal safety. Of course, the entire situation in New Orleans is constantly in flux. But rest assured NRA is monitoring this situation very closely and will address any activity by the government that unduly infringes upon the rights of lawful gun owners at the appropriate time. As we learn more, we will report to our members accordingly. In the interim, however, we join with all Americans in offering our thoughts, prayers, and assistance to the victims and survivors of this terrible natural disaster. Sincerely, Amanda Millward Contact Information -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- First Name: Gary Last Name: Address: City: State: Zip: Phone: Fax: Membership Number: xxxxxxxx Email: [email protected] comments: _________________________________ Why has the NRA sat silent while citizen's are disarmed in New Orleans? Do not insult me by saying you are "studying the situation". I never want to see video like I saw. You should be in court stopping this unconstitutional behavior! If the NRA can't or worse yet, won't stop this from happening, ask yourself, what good are you? |
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So, in the case of a disaster/federal emergency in NO,..."controlling and regulating" firearms = confiscation??? There's a case for John Roberts...interpreting the broad term "controlling and regulating"as it applies here. I hope all those folks sue the state bigtime.
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Just received this in my email....... Why has no one sought injuctive relief? This is clearly a constitutional conflict. This could be the case we need to establish the true boundries of the 2nd amendment. If the 2nd is an individual right, protected by the US constitution, how can a State abridge this right? Some would of course use that tired old stand-by....."you're not allowed to cry fire in a crowded theater are you? My answer...no...but I am aloud to use my freedom of speach to call the fire company on the phone, or my freedom of assembly to exit the theater, or my freedom of religion to pray that everyone makes it out safely.
The proper analogy is to suspend freedom of the press when it doesn't agree with the government on a contriversial matter. A right is not a right if it can't be used when it's needed the most. I can't believe we are the only ones who see this? . . . . Thank you for contacting the NRA-ILA. In regards to your concerns, please read the following statements from Wayne LaPierre and Chris W. Cox: National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre slammed New Orleans authorities Monday for seizing legal firearms from lawful residents. "What we’ve seen in Louisiana - the breakdown of law and order in the aftermath of disaster - is exactly the kind of situation where the Second Amendment was intended to allow citizens to protect themselves, " LaPierre said. "When law enforcement isn’t available, Americans turn to the one right that protects all the others - the right to keep and bear arms," LaPierre said. "This attempt to repeal the Second Amendment should be condemned." The New York Times reported last Thursday that no civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to have guns, quoting the superintendent of police that "only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons." A Louisiana state statute allows the chief law enforcement officer to "regulate possession" of firearms during declared emergencies. "But regulate doesn’t mean confiscate," said Chris W. Cox, the NRA’s chief lobbyist. "Authorities are using that statute to do what the looters and criminals could not: disarm the law-abiding citizens of New Orleans trying to protect their homes and families," Cox said. "The NRA will not stand idly by while guns are confiscated from law-abiding people who’re trying to defend themselves," he said. "We’re exploring every legal option available to protect the rights of lawful people in New Orleans," Cox said, "and we’re taking steps to overturn such laws in every state where they exist." "Local authorities in New Orleans are turning nature’s assault on human life into man’s assault on human rights," LaPierre said. "Four million NRA members intend to stop this unconstitutional power grab." Sincerely, Amanda Millward |
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