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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:09:11 PM EDT
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Loosen up your tinfoil there Sparky.
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:11:59 PM EDT
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Did one of those Art Bell guest predict that the fall of this nation would be preceded by natural disasters? Does this mean I won't have to file a 10-40 and if I do go to Washington, D. C., that I'll have to pay for admission into the Smithsonian? What about the free access to the National Archives or the Library of Congress?
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:12:16 PM EDT
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rofl |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:15:42 PM EDT
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without it the CIA and Hilary can penetrate my brain with ELF waves and affect my thoughts. Besides it is stuck on. I'm serious though, this is the way shit starts. I don't see it next week or next month but down the road I see the possibility of events which take us down a road that if not handled properly could lead to revolution in a few years. Hey, I'm a intelligent guy, know my history, etc and I have more fear for my country now than I have ever had. You and a lot of people out there are unaware of how many lose screws there really are. I know. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:17:35 PM EDT
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I doubt you will see a conservative-liberal civil war.
Beside the Republicans throw away taxpayer money almost as fast as the Dems. the pork involved with the energy bill was just amazing considering the Republcans controlled both houses. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:21:15 PM EDT
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Slowly but surely rights are traded for security......freedom dies.
But it is not dead yet and thanks to AR15.com, I am encouraged that there are a lot of fine patriotic ( as in people who think the way our Founding Fathers did ) people left in this once fine country. Bad guys, be warned, it will be a hell of a fight. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:21:56 PM EDT
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Just a matter of who's constituency gets tapped. Where's Liberty '86?
I'm not sure that is the way I see this possibly going down though in the past I probably would have thought so. Probably start with conservative civilians against conservative .gov/mil. Where it goes from there is anyone's guess. There are conservatives who won't hand over their weapons and won't keep swallowing the socialist gov'ts shit. I know that for certain. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:23:20 PM EDT
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i just know it need to wait untill next year.
right now isnt a good time for me. Im too low on ammo and suplies. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:26:18 PM EDT
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I think the staff here condones the types of behavior in this country that will lead to civil war. Don't you pay attention??? |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:30:00 PM EDT
[#10]
Praise the Lord and pass the ammo..............
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:31:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:32:46 PM EDT
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No, as I have seen NONE of them post. Besides,even the founding Fathers acknowledged that it might be neccesary from time to time to keep the Govt from becoming evil and overpowering. I believe they saw it as a natural event depending on the people's ire at the Govt. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:43:32 PM EDT
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And none of you guys believed John Titor
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:43:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:44:51 PM EDT
[#15]
Have you changed your tinfoil yet this week?
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:44:51 PM EDT
[#16]
Bring it on now. It's coming, might as well get it over with. Probably wont do much good, though, other than to kill most of the people who resist whatever side the .gov is on.
matthew |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:49:30 PM EDT
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Already been asked  Look above. Easy to be skeptical and if it happens no one will ever remember this thread. This shit ain't right. Things don't feel right. We'll see, I guess, but throughout history there have been watershed events which precipitated others and which eventually become a chain reaction of sorts. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:50:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:51:18 PM EDT
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I'm thinking about behaving in drastic and far-reaching ways myself. hoped Rob |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:53:33 PM EDT
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I don't have any plans this weekend. I'll join up with the your noble cause.
 But I gota be back at work on Monday for my 9-6 desk job, you understand. 
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:56:46 PM EDT
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And now that you are you think what? |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:59:45 PM EDT
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Are you a moran? You have nowhere come close to a complete thought. If you have a point state it. Obviously you have a single track mind, I was refering to posts they remove or edit/sensor. I'll donate money so you can buy tinfoil, you are in need. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:00:24 PM EDT
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from Rebel_Marine:
That this convoy and island business is sounding good. I am really sad, I am sure it's going to take me a few days to get a grip on my feelings. A lot of anger here too. Do I buy the PVC pipe and bury 'em? Is it time to organize, everyone, big time? I am not sure what my plans are. I just feel that this after today, really is no longer America. Rob PS; my screen name was handy at the time. Local one hundred percent Infidel. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:00:27 PM EDT
[#24]
Police and National Guard going house to house, confiscating guns. 
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:01:28 PM EDT
[#25]
pull your head out of your ass sonny |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:05:31 PM EDT
[#26]
Heheh. Just like I said in another thread, "America is dead." At least the one we knew. There is no social fabric, there is apparently little that binds us together. At least that is what I am seeing. 
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:06:34 PM EDT
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have you listened to Jesse Jackson or al sharpton lately? (like yesterday and today) You give those guys a pulpit and they willwhip the masses into a frenzy. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:15:05 PM EDT
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People usually will not revolt en masse unless they don't have the bare necesities. I would have a VERY hard time invisioning any kind of civil war unless things got a heck of a lot worse for a heck of a lot more people than is the case now. Selective and wide spread political assasinations though.....?
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:16:54 PM EDT
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What do you think the re-election slogan will be for the current LA governor??? |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:18:24 PM EDT
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They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable--and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! -Patrick Henry
So what's your point? |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:19:18 PM EDT
[#31]
No, that's not quite what I meant by organizing, but an island (or island of land here somewhere) to make a stand. Like Texas. Dissolved from the law of the land that was cut to ribbons today. Defensive positioning. Like I sad before, my thoughts won't be sharp for a few days, too much emotion. Rob |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:26:41 PM EDT
[#32]
I hear ya. I think we have to hold our own where we are though. Of course some places are so ridiculously screwed that to remain there may not be a tenable option for those there. I know I can do my part best right where I am. I wish I knew more people I trusted.
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:26:52 PM EDT
[#33]
What do I think will be the re-election slogan for the LA governor? The same as you. "It was all Bush's fault."
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:28:16 PM EDT
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you mean, like in new orleans right now? If you only knew. Mass evac can happen in YOUR town bud. You learned a lot in 24 hours in September of 01. Yet you and people like you still refuse to believe there are events outside the boundary of your childlike imagination which can change your world. If you only knew what was just beyond your flame. You and people like you only believe it when you see it, only react when it is too late, and having not ever imagined it to be possible, failed to prepare for it. You and people like you had a hard time envisioning planes used as weapons, what more is out there waiting to surprise you, outside the light of your little fire? Are those planes the last surprise you will ever have? No one gets up in the morning and says, "I think I will have a horrible accident today" yet people die every day. If you only knew, you would have stayed in bed. EDIT: one last comment: you people who say "never happen" are thinking inside a paridigm you obtained in 7th grade history, when our schools still taught such a subject. (now it is "humanities" and it is more about opression of the black man by the white man). Your paradigm will NEVER re-occur. There will never bee blue coats versus gray coats. Never be another "litle round top." Does that mean there will never be another civil war? Can Civl war only mean the thing you learned about in your history book? Is it always fought with a kentucky long rifle? Can they really make a building implode with an airplane? |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:30:50 PM EDT
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Times change. Either you adapt or you die. Funny how most of the people here are 100% prepared for a PAW (Post Apoctolyptic World) or when the SHTF but can't seem to deal with a little social change. EVERY generation looks back and says "oh man, when I was young things were better" but is that really the case? Last time I checked America is alive and well even though it's not like you remember it... Shoot, it's not even like I remember it. 15 year olds are passing themselves off as 21 year olds at clubs with their fakes. You gotta check ID, and i mean REALLY check before you do something illegal these days |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:33:12 PM EDT
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Can't get logged onto DU?
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:34:03 PM EDT
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Gordon, I'm pretty sure the trampling of the BOR and the Consitution won't pass as "a little social change" for most folks here. JMO
Rob |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:34:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Gordon Freeman - is it possible in your youth, and all the time you have spent playing Half Life 2, that youdon't know it all? |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:35:25 PM EDT
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Absolutely. 2 weeks ago, if I came along and told you that New Orleans would be destroyed, bodies everywhere, looting, rape, gruesome murders, enormous racial hatred, that it would be every man for himself, government would totally let everyone down on every level....Who'd have believed it? My wife didn't either when I told her this shit was going to happen night before Katrina hit NO. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:47:35 PM EDT
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I almost took that blog seriously until I read the comments where they say emigration is the answer the moon being a week away and Mars and the belt being 3 months away. Huh????
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Posted: 9/8/2005 9:08:26 PM EDT
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Hey Fordguy. Read the original post then read my reply. Do you really see a sizeable group of Americans joining together for a popular uprising? I'll bet a good part of the members here have never even written their elected officials about 2A issues.
I don't know where in my reply you get that I am some kind of short-visioned fool with my head stuck in the sand. I take the future very seriously, and prepare accordingly. I've been to disaster areas a few times in the past. Emergency response is what I do. If you want to lash out at somebody for no good reason, I guess I'm as good as anyone. Piss off. |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 10:12:03 PM EDT
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I always find it truly amazing how, even in the face of our being disarmed, ARFCOMMERS can snip and snap and clip at each other.
If the people who want to take our weapons knew just how fractionated, self-righteous, and back-stabbing we all are, then they'd send a 13-year-old semi-retarded girl with a rubberband gun to confiscate our weapons. Arfcommers'd be turnin' each other in, double-dealing... Come on, people! Now is the time TO GET IT TOGETHER! 
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Posted: 9/8/2005 10:36:32 PM EDT
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+1 Plan accordingly... |
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Posted: 9/9/2005 5:47:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/9/2005 8:57:15 AM EDT
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No shit, huh? |
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Posted: 9/9/2005 9:04:07 AM EDT
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That's the way civil wars end, not the way they start. Unrest often begins will small scale, seemingly innocuous events that gradually build. I could say the same for a lot of wars in general though.
Within and without it would seem. I wonder how many americans would actually help our enemies. My feeling is that the number is small but significant. Also have got to say it is because of how many are within that I would expect Civil War before war perpetrated by foreign govt's and forces. You are absolutely correct though, that nations are destroyed from within before conquered from without. I guess that is the point of this thread. You are also correct that the parallels between our nation and Rome are considerable. |
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