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Posted: 9/2/2005 4:49:14 AM EDT
And who are gonna be some of the first foreign boots on Gulf soil to help out?
Do you still believe that foriegn aid doesn't build friendships in more than just strategic terms? Fox reporting that Israeli offer has or is about to be accepted. Whole field hospitals, doctors, medical tems, body recovery experts, en route.
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Where's Mexico with their doctors???? Haven't heard shit from them after all the business incentives we've given them!
Nice to know that Israel wants to do a mitzvah for its ally. |
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+1 |
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Mexico is already sending legions of their finest unskilled labor, social welfare experts and international finance experts* across the border. What more can they do??? *These are the people who are experienced at the Western Union office. |
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Sorry I still say America first, but have no problem saying thank you Israel.
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You know who your friends are when the chips are down.
Germany = No Israel = Yes Italy = Yes Any other countries reporting in? |
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There's no problem saying america first! heck I do! don't be ashamed. It's just that latent anti-semitism in saying america first israel LAST that taints the america-first crowd. |
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OK I'll bite,
why is it that if you are not pro-Isreal then you must be an anti-semite? Isreal is a country founded by taking the Palestinian's land. In Isreal you must be jewish to be a citizen, isn't that descriminatory to all other religions? Won't even get into the whole USS lIberty incident. I have respect for Isreal for standing up to millions of muslims who want to kill them down to the last women & child. I don't care if my friend is Jewish, catholic, muslim or whatever. But, I don't see what we are benefiting from our blind support of Isreal, & the billions they get every year..... I'll say the same thing to staunch Isreal supporters the same as I say to the folks from PR proudly fling the flag of Puerto Rico. If it's so great over there then don't let the door hit you where the good lord split ya. America first. Every other nation afterward. Personally, I say second place belongs to Great Britain, Poland & Italy. Isreal is ahead of France & Germany, certainly, so I wouldn't say theyare last. But they are at best muddled in the bottom of the top 1/3.... |
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You are a fool. You need to learn the history of what Palestine is. |
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Israel as a country is a Parisite to the US.
Even leeches has some medical benefits but that doesnt mean they are worth having around all the time. If they can help relive some swelling I say thanks for the help but I dont want to have anything to do with them after the fact. All they are doing is returning a tiny amount of what the US has given them and you sing for joy you are really reaching . |
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First of all, it's spelled "parasite," and second, you're wrong. It's a symbiotic relationship. |
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+1 American first. Even though I am not an Israel worshipper I certainly wouldnt list them last. Not near the top, but definetely not last. |
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ummm no my point was the exact opposite. They're not giving money. They're giving actual help. Bodies, people, skilled rescuers and emergency personell. |
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Maybe they can be in charge of riot/looting control.
Bring out the 10/22's Least that way we can act like it wasn't us doing the "enforcing" |
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BULLFUCKINGSHIT. Palestine has never been a country. The "stolen" land is the spoils of war. Wars waged by Arabs against IsrAEL. War LOST by Arabs in WAR. Not only are there Arabs who are citizens, Arabs serve in the Knesset, the Israel Congress AND in the IDF. 17 members of the Knesset are Arab. Now kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP |
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You might want to tell the more than 1.5 million Muslim, Christian and Druze citizens of Israel that. They must have missed the memo. Good to see you've bought in to the Palestinian narrative. Perhaps you should take a look at history and see what Palestine means. To make it easy for you, Palestina is the Latin word for Philistine, the name of the ancient enemy of Israel. The Philistines were European, not Arab. When the Roman Empire conquered ancient Israel they renamed it Palestina as part of its process of trying to exterminate the Jews. Just as they renamed Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina after they destroyed the city. Just as since the late 1950's Judea and Samaria have been called The West Bank since it's a bit hard to argue land is Arab land when its called Judea, the origin of the word Jew. About the same time the Soviet Union and Arab League created the PLO and the Palestinian narrative. There never has been at anytime in history a nation state called Palestine and never one in any form run by Arabs. That's why I love it when people say they took the Palestinian's Land. Land they never had. Land they never owned. Land they invented as their ancient birthright going all the way back to the late 50's. The very essence of the word is based on destroying the Jews. |
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The Romans threw the Pali's a bone to keep them off their ass.
Never was and never will BE a Nation of Palestine. |
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actually word is thatt he philistines, a sea poeple, migrated to Crete with the Jewish conquest of the region. So technically Crete IS the Palestine. Reminds me of The History of the World PArt I, "The Certins from Sparta, no, the Spartans from Crete!' |
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Non-Jews can acquire Israeli nationality in one of five ways. 1. Nationality by residence in Israel Subject to certain qualifications, this section of the law grants Israeli citizenship to former Palestinian citizens who are currently residents of Israel and have lived in Israel since its creation on May 14, 1948, or have entered Israel legally between that time and July 14, 1952, the date the Nationality Law went into effect. 2. Nationality by birth Nationality by reason of birth is given to any person whose father or mother was an Israeli national at the time of his birth. This provision holds true regardless of where the person in question may happen to have been born. 3. Naturalization by birth on Israeli territory in addition to 5 years immediate prior residence in Israel. This provision grants Israeli nationality to persons who are born on Israeli territory who meet these qualifications: apply for Israeli citizenship between their 18th and 21st birthdays, have 5 consecutive years of residence in Israel immediately prior to filing a request for citizenship, have no criminal convictions for violation of security regulations, and have not been sentenced to jail for 5 years or more for violation of any other type of law. 4. Naturalization A person 18 years of age or older may acquire Israeli nationality by naturalization if he meets these criteria: (1) is currently in Israel, (2) has been in Israel for 3 of the 5 preceding years, (3) intends to settle in the country (4) has some knowledge of Hebrew (former Palestinian citizens are exempt from this provision), (5) renounces any and all foreign nationalities, and (6) takes an oath of loyalty to the State of Israel. Completion of all of the above requirements is not essential in all instances, however, as the Minister of the Interior at his discretion has the power (for a special reason) to waive requirements (1), (2),(4), and (5) above. 5. By grant from the Minister of the Interior to certain categories of minors. The law provides, in addition, for a discretionary grant of citizenship to minors who are not Israeli nationals but who are residents of Israel. just for informations sake..... |
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Yeah, and America was founded by taking the Briton's land. |
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BZZZT! Wrong answer. Try again. |
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It was, and we kicked their ass when they tried taking it back, now they just don't want it for some funny reason |
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Aren't we suppose to ban jewish medical teams... oh wait that's indonesia Good job with their support |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quoted: Isreal is a country founded by taking the Palestinian's land. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BZZZT! Wrong answer. Try again. OK, figured I might want to find some data to backup my claim: http://www.mideastweb.org/briefhistory.htm#Geography%20and%20Early%20History The land changed hands several times over the past 4k yrs. In 1917 the Brits decided to "give" the Palestinians land to form the state of Isreal. This gave a "home" for Jewish folks from around the world to come back & settle, at the expense of the Pelestinian folks who were living on the land for generations. It is childish, but "Move your feet, lose your seat". Here in the civilized world, if a New Yorker wants to leave FL & return to NYC he at least has to buy out the folks who have now moved into his old digs..... Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion, God bless America. |
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But not to their own reality. Your source is lying. |
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Interesting how you use the word leeches... |
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Response to the blue text taken direct from the link provided (emphasis mine):
Shorthand version: Transjordan (that 1917 British protectorate you were talking about) was pretty much abandoned by Britian, and the AL attcked in order to remove 600,000 Jews, living, working, and owning property in Israel. The Jews kicked the AL's ass, and declared themselves independent. IIRC, the only land that Isreal took from it's muslim population was land that had been abandoned , and remained unclaimed during the war (with maybe the exception of Ramala, which was the only way to get from Jewish territory into Jeruselem). Response to the red text: Yep. Mines based on history, not what I hear on th evening news. Finally, back on topic: God truly has blessed America; unfortunately, America has spent her resources on foreign entanglements rather than being a good steward. I think it's a good thing that we have freinds in Israel, I just don't like the fact that we solidify that relationship with my tax dollars in the form of millitary subsidies. Glad to see the Israelis (or any of the rest of the world, for that matter) sending some help our way for a change. America first? Heck yeah. Israel last? Heck no! Is that really a Buchanan creed? Edit to fix formatting, etc. |
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do you have to ask? |
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Ummmm. Yes (otherwise I wouldn't have asked) . I've never seen anything that specific in print or otherwise (but then again, I haven't been paying attention either). |
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You must have flunked History, Government and Social Studies. ETA - You do realize that the Philistines and the Palestinians are not the same peoples, right? |
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can anyone tell us who was the leader of the palestian people before arafat?( this is a good one allways trips em up)
or what is the pali. national song? name some pali. history?(that dosent involve arafat..or hamas) crickets |
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He's not dumb. HE's VERY VERY smart, in fact, I'd love what he says were it not for that little thinng that I'm jewish! |
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Israel is one of the few REAL allies we have.........Don't shit on our friends - America doesn't have many in this day and age. Considering the makeup of the United Nations - we don't NEED many friends. America needs to come first.......Unfortunately, all this nationbuilding shit in the Middle East has been overshadowed now by our own catastrophies here at home. We need to fix our own clusterfucks here stateside - we also need to take the gloves off and stop fighting like a bunch of limp-dick liberals.........
The disease of eight years of Klinton rule still infects our government and military. President Bush IS trying - but Bill Clinton FUCKED ALL OF US.........Remember - Bin Laden was never a priority for President Clinton. Crime was solved with midnight basketball. Our military was almost destroyed and Affirmative Action policies were introduced - policies that forced NOPD to hire BAD cops . |
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First of all, Arafat was born in Egypt and kicked out of every other country for stirring the feces whereever he landed. National song? Dirk, dirka, jihad Mohammed akbar! History? How about a country created by Arab wimps in order to fight Israel via proxy. In many Arab countries there are "Palestinians" who have very little rights. They are encouraged to emigrate to their "birthright" . |
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at least some people here know whats up... and hamas has said this on numerous occasions, it's no secret dont get me started, I grew up in queens NY with jews and all kinds of arabs. and I have heard both sides of the story all my life... I dont mind saying that the "palis." dont have a real arguement (destroying all jews is not acceptable) |
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To further expand on this, while all the Middle East claims to support the Palestinians, and give them money to blow themselves up, none of the countries WANT the Palestinians to come to their country and fuck up what they have going on. Shows just how 2 faced the Muslim culture is. |
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Thank you guys with the beanie hats. Yeah yeah yeah, the USA gives them billions and yeah, they DO owe us. So does about 100 other countys! Let me know when the Russians arrive will ya? We certainly saved their asses MORE than once.
Guys, bitch and moan politics another time. The greater point being - you find out who your friends are when you need help. I say, "Thank you" |
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Edit: I'm the dumb one. I didn't understand that "Israel Last" was your interpretation, rather than his words. Any of the "Buchannan is a Nazi" stuff seems to come from Buckley or the hardcore left, so I guess I've ignored it. I also tend to do the same with the racist crap. I've met Ezola Foster, and would think she had a pretty good handle on if he's a racist. I'll stand by that. |
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I say America first, but we need to continue to support, and increase our support, of Israel.
We have an historical alliance, and a current need for a strategic alliance with the only democracy (and rational people) in the Mid-East. As far as supporting the UN, they can go piss up a rope. The only reason to continue to be a memeber, is for our veto vote. We should support democracy and freedom around the globe, and take active (and covert if necessary), measures to subvert communist and fascist regimes. I sound like Pat Robertson. |
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It's interesting how little people understand what Israel contributes to the world. "Gee, all I know is we give them money to buy guns from us." Ignorance is more enjoyable when you don't realize how much of it you possess.
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+1. It seems to be the "in thing" to hate America, which sucks. |
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I say we keep supporting Israel by buying some of their weapons technology/ideas to enhance our capabilities. I say we keep supporting Israel because it pisses off Muslim terrorists. If Muslim terrorists get mad when you do something, do it more often! Now, when the heck are we getting those armored D9 bulldozers?
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